Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-16 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! You can. You can have them as demo for i think 14 days or so. Or is it 30 days. /A > 15 sep. 2019 kl. 21:14 skrev Dave Carlson : > > Not sure you got the point. I’m cheap, so $14.99 would be my limit for > investment right now. I get one voice for that, correct? Can I turn in that > voice

RE: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
, As their voices like alex are so much nicer to work with. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen Sent: Monday, 16 September 2019 2:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence? I will go

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I got your point and doubt you can trade. If I am not mistaken, you do have a trial period. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/15/2019 12:14 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: Not sure you got the point.

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Not sure you got the point. I’m cheap, so $14.99 would be my limit for investment right now. I get one voice for that, correct? Can I turn in that voice later and get a different one without shelling out another $14.99? Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Fred is ok. Its t˛e only thing i can use in recovery mode. /A > 15 sep. 2019 kl. 20:48 skrev Mike Arrigo : > > I do like that synthesizer but I don't see it coming to Apple products > either. The closest voice to that would be Fred. Even though many blind > computer users like that synth,

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Mike Arrigo
I do like that synthesizer but I don't see it coming to Apple products either. The closest voice to that would be Fred. Even though many blind computer users like that synth, in the main stream world it is considered outdated and as far as I know there is no further cdevelopment being done with

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Choose more than one Infovox voice if you like them, buy the credits for however many you want, then you can use the speech rotor to change on the fly. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
E.T., A question on these voices. I see that a single credit is US$14.99. So one credit allows me to download one voice. I get that. But if I wanted to change to another of their voices, can I trade in the one I don’w want in exchange for another, or do I need to buy another credit? Dave

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread dan d.
I cann't stand alex either, I use tom because it is to my ear more crisp and succinct and having fewer distracting artifacts of trying to make it sound like a person. On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Dave, > > I presume you???ve tried all the other English-language voices

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Sandie Jazmin Kruse
It is not often i agree with Anders, but i have too this time , Fred is workable, light memoeryvise, and can speak super fast Sent from my iPad > On 15 Sep 2019, at 19.43, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Fred is a good or ok alternative. > /A > >> 15 sep. 2019 kl. 05:47 skrev Mary Otten :

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Fred is a good or ok alternative. /A > 15 sep. 2019 kl. 05:47 skrev Mary Otten : > > If Apple ever decides to open up the system so that you can use voices that > you bought somewhere, such as if you have voice dream reader and have > purchased voices there, then maybe there will be a

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
The wisdom that children can give us... :) Just like the other voices, you can change them on the fly. Infovox voices will be in the same list on the speech rotor. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, You could try Lee the male Australian voice or one of the UK english male voices. Greg Wocher > On Sep 15, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Hello Ann, > Sad to report that Fred is also a non-negative speaker, along with Alex and > Alex Compact. Sarina works, along with Tom.

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
I will go one better, just for fun. What happened to the dec talk voices? Given those were first created to simulate human speech, I thought they would be preserved on a platform somewhere. I resonate with Mary's thoughts on eloquence, respecting that some seek the familiar. Karen On

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Hello Ann, Sad to report that Fred is also a non-negative speaker, along with Alex and Alex Compact. Sarina works, along with Tom. My quest for a voice that I can live with, and for now one that I don’t need to purchase, goes on... Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker,

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-14 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Dave, I presume you’ve tried all the other English-language voices available to download from Apple? I can’t stand Alex but I use good old Fred most of the time. I also use Fiona as my system voice. In English, we have a huge choice of voices. I’m much more limited when it comes to

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-14 Thread Dave Carlson
Wow! These voices are extremely good. The children’s voices are so realistic, but I don’t think I’d want to have one for all the time. Thanks for passing this along. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Dave, Report it. And meanwhile, check out Infovox. They have voices which you can listen to samples of. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-14 Thread Mary Otten
If Apple ever decides to open up the system so that you can use voices that you bought somewhere, such as if you have voice dream reader and have purchased voices there, then maybe there will be a greater selection available for systemwide usage. And should that happen, if somebody decided

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-14 Thread Dave Carlson
Mary, Okay, thought I’d ask. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a

Re: A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-14 Thread Mary Otten
Dave, in word, no. So far as I know, there is no and will never be eloquence for the Mac. I know a lot of people like that synthesizer. I can’t imagine why, but I just can’t see it ever coming to any Apple products. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > >

A Substitute for Alex -- Where is Eloquence?

2019-09-14 Thread Dave Carlson
Just as the subject says, can I get good old Eloquence loaded on my Mac to use for VO? Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns