Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-13 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
> behalf of Jonathan Cohn > Date: Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:41 > To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac > > I'm going to try and consolidate a few answers here. > > David originally asked about Safari and

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-13 Thread 'ja...@jasonjgw.net' via MacVisionaries
Goodin' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac I'm going to try and consolidate a few answers here. David originally asked about Safari and filling in passwords and form fields. I believe this is not a Safari issue, but a web site putting do not autofill on the password field

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-13 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello, I confirmed this now on my system. A workaround is to use item chooser control-option-I and waiting for about a second and then Voiceover should say XXX items. Then start typing your search term. I will get a bugzilla item created today and let folks here know the ticket number. I do

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-13 Thread Dave Carlson
Greg, Okay, I found it. But it seems to have the same issues with not responding to a Cmd-Opt-F search on the page. Dave Carlson Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-13 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, The beta version is a few headings above the developer one on the page I sent. The developer version is similar to the beta but its updated more frequently. THe beta version tends to be a bit more stable. Greg Wocher > On Dec 12, 2021, at 9:57 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Greg, > I

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-12 Thread Dave Carlson
Greg, I found a developers version. Is that what you meant by a beta version? Dave Carlson Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-12 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I'm going to try and consolidate a few answers here. David originally asked about Safari and filling in passwords and form fields. I believe this is not a Safari issue, but a web site putting do not autofill on the password field, and then Safari paying attention to this. This of course makes

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-12 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, You can find the beta here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/ The main reason I suggest the beta builds is that they will get accessibility fixes earlier than the release versions. Greg Wocher > On Dec 12,

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-12 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello, Version 95 is the current version of Firefox. Most functionality that was needed to get Firefox to work was put in around version 89. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Dec 12, 2021, at 09:11, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Greg, > Interesting your observation on the bug in

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-12 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
On 11/12/21 22:11, Dave Carlson wrote: Interesting. I tried to find Firefox on the Mac App Store and it was not there. Should I have just gone to the internet and downloaded it from there? Yes, just visit mozilla.org and download. If you have Homebrew installed, I think you can run "brew

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-12 Thread Dave Carlson
Greg, Interesting your observation on the bug in Edge. That could well explain why tabl navigation used to work, and now does not. As to Firefox, I’m using the version I downloaded last evening, version 95. How do I get my hands on a beta version? Dave Carlson Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer,

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-12 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, Right now there is a bug in edge that won't allow those of us using VO to navigate tables. IF you are using firefox try and get the beta version. It seems to work a bit better than the non beta version or at least it did before I got my new mac. I have not tried it on the new machine as

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-11 Thread Eric Oyen
yeah. I get that on some sites as well using safari. Part of it is probably improper web code or use of non-standard html tags. Btw, have you tried edge on the gmail website set in basic html mode? If the problem shows up there, then it’s likely edge that’s the problem. Then again, Microsoft

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-11 Thread Eric Oyen
Hmmm, that’s news to me. The last time I tried Firefox on OS X Catalina it turned out be very frustrating. Are there any settings I should be aware of to make it easier to use? Thanks, -Eric > On Dec 11, 2021, at 3:48 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > On 11/12/21 15:29,

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-11 Thread Dave Carlson
Okay, just installed Firefox on my Mac. Only major problem I have so far is that I cannot do a Option-Control-F find using Firefox. I think I remember this way back in the Windows/JAWS days. Is there a way to adjust Firefox so that I can use the VO find function? Dave Carlson Oregonian,

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-11 Thread Dave Carlson
E.T. Interesting. I tried to find Firefox on the Mac App Store and it was not there. Should I have just gone to the internet and downloaded it from there? Dave Carlson Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer On Dec 11, 2021, at 2:48 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-11 Thread Dave Carlson
Eric, Thanks for the suggestions. My problem with MS-Edge is that I can’t navigate tables at all. When one shows up all I hear is the Table with x rows and y columns. Dave Carlson Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar On Dec 11, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-11 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
On 11/12/21 15:29, Eric Oyen wrote: Oh, and forget about Firefox as it is barely accessible and tends not to render some sites in a way the screen reader understands). Recent versions of Firefox are very accessible with VoiceOver. Mozilla recently rewrote their Mac OS accessibility API

Re: Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-11 Thread Eric Oyen
Google chrome seems to work ok, although it doesn’t poll the keychain access file for passwords (it tries to store them internally). On sites where some of the elements aren’t workable in safari, chrome might work (although this is hit or miss a lot of the time). Oh, and forget about Firefox

Alternate Browsers on Mac

2021-12-11 Thread Dave Carlson
Having trouble with MS-Edge lately. Not too thrilled with Safari and how chatty it is when filling in logon and passwords. What other browsers are you using with any success? Dave Carlson Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important