Hello everyone! Position now again I wanted to now what do I do to fix the 
choppiness with voice-over every guys to my MacBook Pro and went to the Apple 
store on Wednesday and its calf straight from me and when we restarted our 
became back iambic van when I was using it earlier today it would freeze in the 
middle of same I'm using caring from Australia is my mean voice so I don't know 
of it would be that or

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On 13/06/2013, at 19:11, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

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> 
> downloading or safari issue [2 Updates]
> VM Fusion question [2 Updates]
> iOS user group [1 Update]
> Mail not opening conversations? [2 Updates]
> Foreign HQ voice for iPhone? [4 Updates]
> which OCR app does not support books again? [3 Updates]
> Blogging [1 Update]
> So wait… What should one use for scanning? [2 Updates]
> putting lots of small videos in to one big file [1 Update]
> IPhone and GMail [1 Update]
> Twitter [1 Update]
> I Broke FaceTime on my Mac [1 Update]
> itunes match and play lists [1 Update]
> getting a mac mini to G4 to boot from a USB drive? [1 Update]
> itunes ate my library file again [2 Updates]
>  downloading or safari issue
> Ray Foret jr <rfore...@att.net> Jun 13 03:35PM -0500  
> 
> You know, it's funny that we both should offer exactly the very same 
> solutions to your problem Kerri. Tim, I can confirm your suspicions that CNIB 
> is pretty much unfamiluar with the Mac, Voice Over and how we use it. Their 
> only suggestion was for Kerri to use Crome. How do I know? It's just that she 
> told me herself via Facetime. Also, I actually got access to the text of 
> their response which they sent to her. Kerri, it seems to me that Tim's 
> solutions should work for you: especially the Option+return or enter key. I 
> strongly suspect it's a web coding issue at work here. What makes me think 
> this is the frank and rather surprising admition that at one time JAWS users 
> had the same issue. So far as I am concerned, the issue is more on their end 
> and not yours.  I think it's got to come down to making sure that their HTML 
> is correctly written. Would you not agree?
>  
>  
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>  
>  
> 
> Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> Jun 13 03:55PM -0700  
> 
> Hello, Tim and Ray:
>  
> Optiion enter or force download finally cracked the issue for which I thank 
> you. I never knew this command existed. Yo are right,t eh CNIB barely assists 
> anyone so I like you, Tim barely use it but when I want to use it, now it 
> does work. 
> Ray, yo are correct in your summation that the CNIB assistant was not 
> helpful, in fact, he used a cop out when instructing me to download chrome. 
> All he had to do was put me in contact with other Canadian mac users or ask 
> if he couuld send my contact information to other Mac users. It's just 
> ridiculous.
>  
> 
>  VM Fusion question
> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Jun 13 05:51PM -0400  
> 
> Hi.
> I am trying to use my Boot Camp Windows installation to create VM fusion 
> virtual PC. Can someone help me get started?
> The only options I see are to migrate a different computer into VMware on the 
> same network and to install from a disc. If the migration assistant the one I 
> should use for Boot Camp?
> Thanks
> Bill
>  
> 
> Chris H <christopher...@gmail.com> Jun 13 11:45PM +0100  
> 
> You can see more about this on my guide of installing and setting up 
> bootcamp without sighted assistance from
> www.applevis.com
>  
>  
>  
> Chris
>  
> On 13/06/2013 22:51, Bill Holton wrote:
>  
> 
>  iOS user group
> Shane Christenson <ksha...@att.net> Jun 11 05:03PM -0500  
> 
> Hello. If I may, I'd like to make a correction. The conference call for the 
> IBUG meetings is every Monday night. The meetings that are face-to-face at 
> the Apple Store, are once a month usually the fourth Saturday of every month.
> Shane
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Mail not opening conversations?
> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Jun 13 05:09PM -0400  
> 
> I think they both do the same thing. Yes, I often use that trick as well, but 
> sometimes I only want the most recent message, or most of the messages are 
> already read, or for some other reason I want to just expand the conversation.
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>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> Jun 14 07:35AM +1000  
> 
> Oh I do the same thing a lot of the time. Both methods work for different 
> situations. 
>  
>  
>  
> Danny. 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
>  Foreign HQ voice for iPhone?
> "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net> Jun 13 10:41PM +0200  
> 
> Hi,
> actually the iPhone uses in your home language a high quality voice. At least 
> that's what I know from german and english iPhones. I don't know wether this 
> is correct for all languages. 
> What I want to do is to use the german high quality voice and the english 
> high quality voice.
> All the best to greece
> Jürgen
>  
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Jun 13 10:42PM +0200  
> 
> Hello Jürgen,
>  
> I'm afraid you can only have one HQ voice on the iPhone. I have the same 
> problem as you do in that I run my iPhone in English but read a lot of French 
> on it. I'd love to have an HQ French voice, and I can have one if I set my 
> iPhone to French, but then I lose my HQ English voice., at least, that's how 
> it seems.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> 
> "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net> Jun 13 11:17PM +0200  
> 
> Hi Anne,
> thanks Anne for your reply. I tried it out and set my iPhone to British 
> English but unfortunately it didn't work. My german hq voice stayed but 
> Daniel stayed in compact mode even though I kept the Phone for an hour in 
> english. Very sad. Anyway, let's see wether iOS 7 brings the new voices not 
> only for Siri but also for VO. And - who knows - for other languages.
> All the best
> Jürgen
>  
>  
> 
> Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> Jun 13 05:23PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,
> You have to set your language for voice control as well to the particular 
> language that you want.
> Then connect your IPhone to WIFI, plug it in to your computer, and sync with 
> ITunes, and wait about an hour or so depending on your internet connection.
>  
>  
> 
>  which OCR app does not support books again?
> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Jun 13 11:32AM -0400  
> 
> Hi all,
> Of the three major scanning apps for the Mac (Prizmo, Abbyy, and Docuscan), 
> one does not support books open and laid flat. Which one was it? I don't 
> think it was Prizmo, as I just scanned part of a manual by placing it flat 
> and open to a random page and it seemed to work just fine. Thanks in advance.
>  
>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Jun 13 05:39PM +0200  
> 
> Hello Alex,
>  
> When I scan books, I open the book out flat and place it face down in my 
> scanner. That way, I get two pages at once and can just turn over the page 
> and repeat. Prizmo does not recognise the text in this situation. At least, 
> it doesn't for me. Perhaps it was the orientation, but ABBYY FineReader did a 
> pretty good job.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Jun 13 05:05PM -0400  
> 
> Thanks. I read something about curve fixing for books on Prizmo's site, but 
> if this is not automatic then it may be worthless to blind users.
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>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
>  Blogging
> Nicholas Parsons <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> Jun 14 04:46AM +1000  
> 
> I could just write the HTML in Mars Edit. I used to just write the HTML on 
> the WordPress web app. However, it's annoying to proof read stuff you've 
> written in HTML. The flow of the writing is broken up by <p> <a href="http:// 
> etcetera. Apart from breaking up the flow of the sentence and paragraph 
> structure, this also makes it difficult to spell check. Markdown, on the 
> other hand, is much cleaner and simpler and makes proof reading really easy. 
> MultiMarkdown Composer II, for example, shows your code in rendered HTML in 
> realtime as you're typing the code. So you can type your markdown code which 
> is nice and clean, and then VO-right arrow once, interact with the HTML area 
> and then see how it looks rendered. Pretty cool. Mars Edit also has a rich 
> text editor, but I'm not really confident with it at the moment. I really 
> like markdown so I'm happy just sticking with it for now.
>  
> 
>  So wait… What should one use for scanning?
> Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> Jun 12 07:13PM -0400  
> 
> Hey Nicholas, Thanks this was very helpful. I believe there is a trial for 
> docuscan, so I think I am just going to have to try it out. As getting the 
> partial scans sometimes through the Canon software's poor OCR can be 
> frustrating. Just an FYI, I did need some sighted assistance when setting the 
> canon software up, as some of the setup I couldn't get to work, but now that 
> I have it set, I just press a button on the scanner, it scans the piece of 
> mail, and opens automatically in preview, so that is nice.
>  
> 
> Nicholas Parsons <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> Jun 14 04:38AM +1000  
> 
> Hi Brian,
> Glad I could help. Yep, I think DocuScan's 7 day trial is worth checking out. 
> It's relatively a very expensive app, so make sure you like it before you buy.
> With that CanoScan software, is the document that opens automatically in 
> Preview as you say already been OCR-ed? Not sure if I still have the software 
> that came with my Canon but if I do sounds like it might be worth me getting 
> someone to install it for me.
>  
> 
>  putting lots of small videos in to one big file
> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Jun 13 02:32PM -0400  
> 
> I think once you have a bunch of pictures in a folder in iPhoto you can 
> pick that folder and then choose New Slideshow from the File menu. That 
> will make a slideshow out of that bunch of stuff. Then if you go past 
> most of the UI you'll eventually find the Bottom Toolbar Group. 
> Interacting with that reveals the play button and some other things in 
> it like picking music and themes. I haven't found a keyboard shortcut 
> for starting the slideshow. Seems like there ought to be one.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 6/7/13 7:34 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
>  
> -- 
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>  
> 
>  IPhone and GMail
> Nicholas Parsons <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> Jun 14 04:20AM +1000  
> 
> gmail's understanding of IMAP and Apple Mail's understanding of IMAP are not 
> the same, and if you're not careful this can produce funny results. The way 
> they both work is rather complicated. Thankfully, Joe Kissell has written a 
> number of great MacWorld and TidBits articles which are free on the web, as 
> well as two fantastic books called Take Control of Apple Mail, one for 
> Mountain Lion and one for iOS devices. I highly recommend both books. I 
> thought Mail was a pretty simple thing and I knew all there was to know about 
> it. How wrong I was. The books are brilliant and really help you to avoid 
> problems like the one you're having.
>  
> There are many possibilities of what's going on at your end but it's probably 
> got something to do with your settings on both Mail and gmail for how to 
> treat deleted messages. Archive them? move them to the trash folder? Keep 
> them on the server or store them locally? Expunge them immediately or later? 
> Etcetera. Again, I really recommend Take Control of Apple Mail or that you at 
> least google Joe Kissell Apple Mail and gmail.
>  
> Best,
> Nic
>  
> 
>  Twitter
> Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> Jun 13 12:21PM +1200  
> 
> Chris, search for Night Owl in the App Store, and the first result is the 
> Twitter client. SO no. no hours of searching were saved. The English 
> documentation also makes reference to Night Owl. It is an official name 
> supported by the developers.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>  
>  
> 
>  I Broke FaceTime on my Mac
> Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> Jun 13 05:17AM +1200  
> 
> I don't know quite how I fixed it, but I have. My temptation is to try 
> breaking it again so I can then try fixing it again and work out the 
> steps…but life's too short.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>  
>  
> 
>  itunes match and play lists
> Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> Jun 13 12:19PM +1200  
> 
> Hi Mary, yes, it stores playlists. In fact I can make a change on my phone, 
> and see that change reflected on my Mac, Apple TV and iPad.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
>  
>  
> 
>  getting a mac mini to G4 to boot from a USB drive?
> CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> Jun 11 03:55PM -0700  
> 
> Hey Eric,
>  
> Congrats on completing a task that would had stymied many a fellow geek. I 
> know I was pretty pleased, when I put that one to bed.
>  
> Anyway, well done,
>  
> CJ
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  itunes ate my library file again
> Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> Jun 13 09:24AM -0700  
> 
> Well, this is going to sound totally insane, but none the less .... iTunes 
> seems to be working ok. At least, I've been able to get in and out of a 
> library file more than twice, and the gremlin didn't do something to it 
> overnight either. But here is the weird part. I had created a new library, 
> and had that same problem with the file not being recognized after a 
> successful use one time. Out of frustration, I decided to go in to the apps 
> folder and call itunes from there. Usually I access it via my dock. And 
> stupid as it may be, the file that gave the error when accessing the app from 
> the dos kworked fine when I opened itunes from the apps listing in the 
> applications folder. I took iTunes out of the dock. Closed iTunes. Reopened 
> it from the applications folder and put it back into the dock. So now I can 
> access it from the dock, and it works. This makes no sense at all to me. But 
> it is what happened. And no, I am neither drinking, smoking or otherwise 
> under the influence of strange substances.
>  
> Mary
>  
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Jun 13 11:39AM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> That is odd indeed. Did you have a copy of the iTunes app anywhere else 
> outside the Applications folder that you are aware of? Applications that you 
> attempt to run from other places often do cause weird problems that are 
> inconsistent and difficult to figure out. Just for safety, you may wish to 
> export your playlists which will keep text files of the data relating to each 
> playlist you export. This makes it real easy for the next time that you have 
> a Library issue because you'll simply be able to import those specific 
> playlists right back into iTunes if your Library get corrupt again.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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