Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread William Gallik
It is already fact that insurance companies are anticipating this development and will require people operating their own vehicles manually to pay much higher premiums. As such, you can bet that autonomously controlled vehicles will become the rule and not the exception. The's, the cost of said

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
I pay these costs now it’s just I also have the cost of a driver so my expense / burn rate is higher than a sited persons. Would love to just pay the same costs as the sited. > On Sep 21, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Cameron Strife wrote: > > Hi. Yes, on top of car payments, there would be insurance, > r

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
So you raise an interesting point, insurance should be almost 0. This is because humans aren’t driving. I can imagine a time when autonomous drivers are heavily incentivized by insurance rates or even a point in the distant future when human driving is uninsurable to the point where human dri

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
You have a great point. Tesla already has a research division that wants to do exactly what you’re saying and Uber now is one of the largest investors in self driving cars. You could buy your train ticket on the phone, summon a ride that could sync up with the train schedule to bring you the r

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Karen Lewellen
..and how It has been for many for years. I remember when I worked for xerox, I knew many individuals experiencing sight loss who owned cars. I cannot imagine why the responsibility should be any difference. If memory serves bMW will have some of their self driving cars on the roads in Canada l

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Cameron Strife
Hi. Yes, on top of car payments, there would be insurance, registration, yearly inspections, gas/electricity, oil changes, tires, alignment, and the list goes on. And yes, we'd be responsible for those costs just like a sighted person. (And, that is how it should be!) Cameron. On 9/21/15, Mich

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Michael
You mean we would have the same responsibilities a sighted person has? It's interesting that a lot of blind individuals want the same rights as a sighted person, however when it comes to the responsibilities of a sighted person it's whoa is me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:29 P

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Jessica Moss
You also have to think of the fact that it's not just the price of the car we would be paying for; there are car payments and ensurance to think about. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > I don't know, Scott, that's a lot of $$. some people undoubtedly w

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Who says you need to own the thing yourself? If you could summon one in 10 minutes at will using an app from a fleet stored somewhere close by, wouldn't that suffice? Most cars sit most of the time so they should be a shared resource. The trouble is usually the last mile getting a taxi to your

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
Not really, we spend that kind of money all the time. We spend 3 or 4 times that on a house (depending on geographic area and the market). We spend that on college, something as fundamental as transportation I’m sure they will. If you have the job to support it or a family collectively with t

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
If apple makes it, people won’t care. They will buy it simply because it’s from Apple. :) If apple made steak knives people would buy them just because they had a big apple with a bite out on the handle. > On Sep 21, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > I'm just not sure everyone will

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Donna Goodin
I don't know, Scott, that's a lot of $$. some people undoubtedly will, but some just won't be able to. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 21, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Dona, the bigger question is can we afford not to have it? Even if it’s 100K > the point is you’ll work it out. Whethe

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Donna Goodin
I'm just not sure everyone will see it that way. :) Donna > On Sep 21, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Outside air is for the weak.:) I don’t need the wind in my hair if I know > the car can and will survive a crash much better with out windows. No flying > glass, no structural ho

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
Bill, you have a few laws of physics that are in the way of the transporter. First, the heisenberg uncertainty principle says that the more you try to determine the position of any given particle the more you impact it’s environment and can’t know it’s exact position. Let’s say you solve that

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
Dona, the bigger question is can we afford not to have it? Even if it’s 100K the point is you’ll work it out. Whether it’s interest free loans for the blind or regular interest loans from the auto market you’ll make it work. Costs will be high at first but they will drop and they will drop qu

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
Obviously there would be redundant systems so if your computer failed a backup would take over. I suspect a lot of this will be run externally from large computer farms anyway keeping the logic outside the car makes for easier maintenance. > On Sep 18, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-21 Thread Scott Granados
Outside air is for the weak.:) I don’t need the wind in my hair if I know the car can and will survive a crash much better with out windows. No flying glass, no structural holes, no extra weight for glass. Lots of upsides. > On Sep 18, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hmm. I'm not

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Bill Gallik
This thread regarding ACV’s begs the question; when will the “Star Trek” transporters be available? Just think, sitting in a cafe in New York City discussing the Yankees prospects and in the blink of an eye being transported to the ticket line in California in time to take in an afternoon game

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Terje Strømberg
Ha ha ha ha ha ….. antivirus. Take care 18. sep. 2015 kl. 19:58 skrev Michael : I hear this a lot from people in regards to the autonomous car reality and "what if the computer crashed". Well, what if the driver you just passed crashed? It's a risk a person takes when he gets on the road, and

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, there are limits, even if it's something you want. As I told a colleague this morning, I'm afraid I'll have to sell the first-born son I never had. :) Cheers, Donna > On Sep 18, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Michael wrote: > > The question isn't can any of us afford it but how will those who want it

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Michael
The question isn't can any of us afford it but how will those who want it afford it? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > then the question will be can any of us afford it. :) > Cheers, > Donna >> On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: >> >> Wi

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Michael
I hear this a lot from people in regards to the autonomous car reality and "what if the computer crashed". Well, what if the driver you just passed crashed? It's a risk a person takes when he gets on the road, and from observations and research, computers crash less than humans do. Sent from my

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Michael
Give it enough time and there will be some sort of 3-D virtual reality that will make it feel like the wind is blowing in your face at different levels at different speeds… Want to put it past him… I think this is an awesome thing! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Donna Goodi

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Donna Goodin
then the question will be can any of us afford it. :) Cheers, Donna > On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: > > With the success Google is having, it won't be long until we see one from > Apple. Google's testing here in Austin without incident. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I'd love a car which I could use myself. Probably cost a fortune. I could go to work in my car, or go and see parents in my car or go and get shopping and fasten my guide dog in the back. She's have a whale of a time as she'd not have too much work to do. The only scary thing would be that s

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Donna Goodin
Hmm. I'm not so sure. For that matter, not sure I would like it much. Obviously for me the trade-off would be worth it, but if you had a choice would you want to give up driving around with the windows down. I wouldn't. Donna > On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Oh I th

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Denise Barajas
This certainly would be very interesting. I haven't really heard or read very much of anything, due to the fact that I myself find myself extremely occupied more or less on the daily basis. When I'm not going to school, I kind of just chill out and try to either run my own errands out of the hou

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Pete Nalda
With the success Google is having, it won't be long until we see one from Apple. Google's testing here in Austin without incident. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Sep 18,

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Scott Granados
Oh I think sited users will do just fine. There are screens where the windows would be so they will still be able to see outside. It’s just now they will have night vision and infrared as well as the regular optical spectrum. Depends on how good the screens are I guess. I used to work next t

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Donna Goodin
Wow, that design does sound pretty hideous. However, I don't think the lack of windows will stand. I don't think cited users would put up with that for a minute! It is interesting what Google has done. Always good to have choices! Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2015, at 8:01 AM

Re: Apple car, anyone?

2015-09-18 Thread Scott Granados
Dona, has anyone described to you what this prototype car looks like? There were some photos leaked a while back, who knows since they are rumors but they basically had a pod that had 4 wheels (it’s not a 3 wheeler like some models) and it had no (0) windows. Think about that for a minute. Wh