OK, I got Growl to open properly via the Dock,, and I'm on the settings. It gives me a search field in which I have put Syrinx, for example, for notifications, but all it does is highlight it and it will just give me a cancel button. If I VO right arrow, it gives me an empty table with no programs to chose from for notifications. I'm still trying to get it to notify me about syrinx messages and Skype messages. I feel a little closer to where I was before, but I'm not good at just listening to tutorials and getting things down pat and it's just easier if someone just gives me directions from where I'm at.
I'm self-taught on this Mac and I guess considering I've only had it since June of 2011 and never had a class on it in my life, I guess I'm not doing too bad:) I couldn't do it without you all though so I hope that you all know that though. Thanks for all of your patience and guidance. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: > Hello Esther, > > thanks to you. You encouraged me to try it again and again. And so I found > out a funny thing: > > When I copy the last spoken phrase of VO to the clipboard by pressing VO + c > the following appears after pasting: > Normalisieren … > This is the german word for normalize. There's the command then two empty > spaces and the the ellipsis sign. That doesn't work in the preferences of > keaboard short cuts. > Then I tried > Normalisieren… > That's what you used in your example, also no success. > Then I tried > Normalisieren … > just with one empty space and that worked. Isn't it strange? > > But anyway: I'm happy now to have the way free to define short cuts for all > commands in a menue. :-) > > All the best > Jürgen > > Am 21.02.2012 um 23:12 schrieb Esther: > >> Hello Jürgen, >> >> Make sure that the keyboard shortcut you are assigning does not conflict >> with an existing shortcut definition that applies either to that application >> or system wide on your Mac. One of the reason that I use so many modifier >> keys in the example shortcut, is that you quickly run out of unique >> combinations. That's also why I make new shortcut definitions sparingly, >> and delete the ones that I set up as test cases. >> >> Just out of curiosity, which command did you want to create a shortcut for? >> I'm working with a new installation under Lion, and don't have apps like >> Amadeus Pro loaded yet (this is a MacBook Air with less disk space than I >> had previously), so I can't run tests to answer questions while I'm still >> getting my system configured and transitioned to Lion. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 21, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >> >>> Hello Esther, >>> >>> thanks for your efforts. But still strange: I did it point by point as you >>> did and it doesn't work for me and Amadeus Pro. I can add a new created >>> short cut in system preferences and it doesn't appear in the menue of >>> Amadeus Pro and of course it doesn't work as well. >>> >>> I'm not sure why it doesn't work but will investigate that issue. But now I >>> know at least it works at all. >>> >>> Thanks again for your help and >>> all the best >>> Jürgen >>> Am 21.02.2012 um 21:40 schrieb Esther: >>> >>>> Hello Jürgen, >>>> >>>> To create keyboard shortcuts of those menu options which end with an >>>> ellipsis, in Snow Leopard and Lion you navigate to System Preferences > >>>> Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts (tab 2 of 2) and select the option from a >>>> table. >>>> >>>> 1. If the menu command is for a specific application, navigate to the >>>> "Shortcuts categories" table and interact, then select "Application >>>> Shortcuts". >>>> 2. Stop interacting and navigate to the "Add an application shortcut" >>>> button and press (VO-Space). >>>> 3. In the dialog window, change the pop up menu button for the application >>>> from "All Applications" to the one that you want (e.g., VO-Space and use >>>> arrow keys and/or type the first letters of the name, like "i t" for >>>> iTunes), and press return. >>>> 4. Then type in the name of the command you want in the text box for "Menu >>>> Title:". For example, I created a shortcut for the "Page Setup…" option >>>> in the File menu of iTunes this way. (It's something that I'd never want >>>> to use, and I'm going to get rid of it right away, but it shows this >>>> method works). I typed in "Page Setup…" using the Option+semi-colon >>>> shortcut to type the ellipsis at the end of "Setup". >>>> 5. Then I typed in a keyboard shortcut, Shift-Control-Option-Command-P, >>>> and pressed the "Add" button. >>>> 6. I closed the Keyboard window with Command-W. >>>> >>>> Sure enough, if I'm in the iTunes app, pressing this combination brings up >>>> the Page Setup window. However, I immediately went back to the page to >>>> delete this shortcut, since I'm never going to use it and just tried this >>>> out to make sure I could assign a shortcut this way. If the menu option >>>> only appears for a specific application, then you have to select that >>>> application before trying to assign the shortcut. I believe there are >>>> "Page Setup…" menu options for other applications, but you'll have to set >>>> up your shortcut again for those applications. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hallo Esther, >>>>> >>>>> Am 13.02.2012 um 16:19 schrieb Esther: >>>>> >>>>>> The ellipsis character is typed using a keyboard shortcut with the >>>>>> Option key. On a US or other English language input keyboard, this >>>>>> combination can be typed by pressing Option+semi-colon. Assuming that >>>>>> you are using a German input language keyboard, this combination can be >>>>>> typed by pressing Option+period. >>>>>> >>>>> Thanks for this. >>>>> >>>>>> However, a more general way to get the exact menu command you need for a >>>>>> keyboard shortcut is to use VO-Shift-C, which is the VoiceOver shortcut >>>>>> to copy the last spoken phrase to the clipboard. Then paste in this >>>>>> phrase with Command-V. I usually paste into a TextEdit window as an >>>>>> intermediate >>>>> >>>>> That's what I also do but in that special case it doesn't work. Of course >>>>> it works to copy the phrase to the clipboard so that I can paste it. But >>>>> what doesn't work is to create a functioning short cut when a menue >>>>> command has an ellipsis. The chosen short cut appears in the system >>>>> preferences but not in the menue of the program. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have an idea how to solve that issue? Or is it just not possible >>>>> to create short cuts for menue commands with ellipsis's? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and all the best >>>>> Jürgen >>>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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