I could not get negative numbers to not speak the negative value either. So
1. Either something in a specific type of sheet formatting.
2. Different versions of numbers.
or
3. AN obscure setting in VoiceOVer that some of us are not finding.
I think the easiest thing to do is verify your numbers
In the list of activities there is a Additional settings to include click on
this and down 5 items is "Voices"
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Jonathan Cohn
> On Sep 15, 2019, at 5:59 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi, I’m having the same problem.
> Is there a way to
I don’t think anyone other than Indiana jones has found that yet!!
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Subject: Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers
Tim,
I am also wondering where
Hi, I’m having the same problem.
Is there a way to have Samantha
only speak in the Numbers app?
I found activities in the voice over settings to change punctuation
for numbers, but not a way to change voices.
> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
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> I’ve used the “all” settings
Yes, I am using Alex.
> On Sep 15, 2019, at 14:22, Dave Carlson wrote:
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> Barry,
> And do I presume that you are also using Alex and that he is able to
> pronounce the negative values?
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Dan,
Just caught your pun. Yes, I need to find a grumpy, cantankerous voice.
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And do I presume that you are also using Alex and that he is able to pronounce
the negative values?
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Good suggestion. I haven’t spent any time looking at activities yet. Hope
they’re not complicated.
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In this case, read numbers as words or digits makes no difference.
So, I am also stumped. I have no idea why you are having any isues.
> On Sep 15, 2019, at 14:06, Barry Hadder wrote:
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> Well, I’m Not Tim, but I’l answer anyway.
> In the currency category of number tab of
Well, I’m Not Tim, but I’l answer anyway.
In the currency category of number tab of format cells, I have -$ format
selected.
With read numbers as words, vo reads the negative sign when I use the vo
movement commands.
It’s also worth pointing out that if you prefer the parentheses format, and
Tim,
Did I ever mention to you that I use the minus$ method of negative number
marking, since the parentheses do not work unless I set punctuation to “all”?
What is your negative indicator set to?
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The only instance where I can stop vo from announcing a negative sign is to set
read numbers as digits and use the vo movement commands.
> On Sep 15, 2019, at 12:15, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi,
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> I've messed with some VO Settings and cannot seem to get it to stop
Sometimes such things are voice dependent quirks. Use the voice roter to pick
a temp voice or two.
Otherwise, try a more positive attitude.
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019, Dave Carlson wrote:
> Yes, Mine has been set to ???some??? and Also to ???All???. Still no joy.
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> Dave Carlson
> Pioneer,
Hi,
I've messed with some VO Settings and cannot seem to get it to stop saying
negative when a negative number is present. changing between word/Digits,
changing how cursors follows each other, verbosity level, and arrow vs VO
navigation all did not seem to change what was announced. I seem
I’ve used the “all” settings for punctuations, and the parentheses are read
only with voices other than Alex or Fred. But my preference is having the minus
sign precede the $ sigh, so I don’t need to have all punctuation. Having all
punctuation in other apps drives me insane. I’ll see if
Absolutely okay. Any time is always better than “never."
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I am using Voiceover with Excel and vo reads negative numbers.
In the text tab of verbosity settings in vo utility, do you have numbers read
as words?
Also, how are you moving between cells? There are three ways: arrows, tab,
and the vo movement commands. How you do this may affect how
Hi,
I'm just in the middle of helping my daughter review some parts of her
dictation, so I will take a look at some VO settings later this morning or this
afternoon, if that's alright.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
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Fort
Tim,
I am also wondering where is that mysterious setting that is haunting me. So
far, in all my wanderings through VO and Accessibility settings, I have not
found the holy grail.
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Hi,
I use full strength Alex. I'm thinking that there may be some other setting
that is factoring in.
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On Sep 15, 2019, at 07:45, Dave Carlson wrote:
Alex, or Alex
Jonathan,
Yes I reported first when I had the problem, and then followed up with the news
that Alex was the culprit. Now I need to verify whether it’s limited to Alex,
vs. Alex compact.
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Alex, or Alex Compact? I didn’t try the compact version.
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Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
> On Sep 14, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
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> Hot D**n! That did it! I hate Tom, so I’m looking for a voice I can
Hi,
Hmmm. Alex works well for me. Negatives are announced properly.
Later...
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> On Sep 14, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
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> Hot D**n! That did it! I hate Tom, so I’m looking for a voice I can stand for
> long periods. But you did hit the nail on the head.
Hot D**n! That did it! I hate Tom, so I’m looking for a voice I can stand for
long periods. But you did hit the nail on the head. Thanks so much for your
suggestion. Now I’m going to send a follow-up to Apple Accessibility with this,
to add to one more reason Alex is not a reliable kind of guy.
Petrus,
You know, you have a way of hitting nails on the head. I didn’t even think of
that, even knowing what Alex does with the Roman numerals. Off to give that a
try.
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Sorry if this has been suggested already or if it isn’t any help, I haven’t
really followed this thread. Does it make any difference if you change the
voiceover voice?
> On 15/09/2019, at 2:19 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
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> Yes, Mine has been set to “some” and Also to “All”. Still no joy.
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Yes, Mine has been set to “some” and Also to “All”. Still no joy.
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Hi Dave,
Mine does announce negative numbers in the Numbers app. What is your
punctuation level set to? Mine is to some.
Later...
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On Sep 14, 2019, at 10:30, Dave Carlson
Any takers out there? I still haven’t figured out a way to have VO specifically
verbalize parenthesis or minus signs in Excel. And this also appears to be a
problem using theNumbers app.
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