Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I could not get negative numbers to not speak the negative value either. So 1. Either something in a specific type of sheet formatting. 2. Different versions of numbers. or 3. AN obscure setting in VoiceOVer that some of us are not finding. I think the easiest thing to do is verify your numbers

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Jonathan Cohn
In the list of activities there is a Additional settings to include click on this and down 5 items is "Voices" Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Sep 15, 2019, at 5:59 PM, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, I’m having the same problem. > Is there a way to

RE: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I don’t think anyone other than Indiana jones has found that yet!! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Monday, 16 September 2019 2:46 AM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers Tim, I am also wondering where

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I’m having the same problem. Is there a way to have Samantha only speak in the Numbers app? I found activities in the voice over settings to change punctuation for numbers, but not a way to change voices. > On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > I’ve used the “all” settings

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Barry Hadder
Yes, I am using Alex. > On Sep 15, 2019, at 14:22, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Barry, > And do I presume that you are also using Alex and that he is able to > pronounce the negative values? > > Dave Carlson > Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician > > > > > > -- >

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Dan, Just caught your pun. Yes, I need to find a grumpy, cantankerous voice. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Barry, And do I presume that you are also using Alex and that he is able to pronounce the negative values? Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Good suggestion. I haven’t spent any time looking at activities yet. Hope they’re not complicated. Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Barry Hadder
Slite correction, In this case, read numbers as words or digits makes no difference. So, I am also stumped. I have no idea why you are having any isues. > On Sep 15, 2019, at 14:06, Barry Hadder wrote: > > Well, I’m Not Tim, but I’l answer anyway. > In the currency category of number tab of

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Barry Hadder
Well, I’m Not Tim, but I’l answer anyway. In the currency category of number tab of format cells, I have -$ format selected. With read numbers as words, vo reads the negative sign when I use the vo movement commands. It’s also worth pointing out that if you prefer the parentheses format, and

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Tim, Did I ever mention to you that I use the minus$ method of negative number marking, since the parentheses do not work unless I set punctuation to “all”? What is your negative indicator set to? Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Barry Hadder
The only instance where I can stop vo from announcing a negative sign is to set read numbers as digits and use the vo movement commands. > On Sep 15, 2019, at 12:15, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I've messed with some VO Settings and cannot seem to get it to stop

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread dan d.
Sometimes such things are voice dependent quirks. Use the voice roter to pick a temp voice or two. Otherwise, try a more positive attitude. On Sat, 14 Sep 2019, Dave Carlson wrote: > Yes, Mine has been set to ???some??? and Also to ???All???. Still no joy. > > Dave Carlson > Pioneer,

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I've messed with some VO Settings and cannot seem to get it to stop saying negative when a negative number is present. changing between word/Digits, changing how cursors follows each other, verbosity level, and arrow vs VO navigation all did not seem to change what was announced. I seem

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
I’ve used the “all” settings for punctuations, and the parentheses are read only with voices other than Alex or Fred. But my preference is having the minus sign precede the $ sigh, so I don’t need to have all punctuation. Having all punctuation in other apps drives me insane. I’ll see if

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Absolutely okay. Any time is always better than “never." Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi, I am using Voiceover with Excel and vo reads negative numbers. In the text tab of verbosity settings in vo utility, do you have numbers read as words? Also, how are you moving between cells? There are three ways: arrows, tab, and the vo movement commands. How you do this may affect how

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I'm just in the middle of helping my daughter review some parts of her dictation, so I will take a look at some VO settings later this morning or this afternoon, if that's alright. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Tim, I am also wondering where is that mysterious setting that is haunting me. So far, in all my wanderings through VO and Accessibility settings, I have not found the holy grail. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I use full strength Alex. I'm thinking that there may be some other setting that is factoring in. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 15, 2019, at 07:45, Dave Carlson wrote: Alex, or Alex

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Jonathan, Yes I reported first when I had the problem, and then followed up with the news that Alex was the culprit. Now I need to verify whether it’s limited to Alex, vs. Alex compact. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Dave Carlson
Alex, or Alex Compact? I didn’t try the compact version. Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-15 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Report it to Microsoft too. I have had good response from Microsoft on Macintosh Office accessibility issues. Jonathan Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Sep 14, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Hot D**n! That did it! I hate Tom, so I’m looking for a voice I can

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-14 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Hmmm. Alex works well for me. Negatives are announced properly. Later... Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2019, at 9:13 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Hot D**n! That did it! I hate Tom, so I’m looking for a voice I can stand for > long periods. But you did hit the nail on the head.

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-14 Thread Dave Carlson
Hot D**n! That did it! I hate Tom, so I’m looking for a voice I can stand for long periods. But you did hit the nail on the head. Thanks so much for your suggestion. Now I’m going to send a follow-up to Apple Accessibility with this, to add to one more reason Alex is not a reliable kind of guy.

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-14 Thread Dave Carlson
Petrus, You know, you have a way of hitting nails on the head. I didn’t even think of that, even knowing what Alex does with the Roman numerals. Off to give that a try. Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-14 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Sorry if this has been suggested already or if it isn’t any help, I haven’t really followed this thread. Does it make any difference if you change the voiceover voice? > On 15/09/2019, at 2:19 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Yes, Mine has been set to “some” and Also to “All”. Still no joy. > >

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-14 Thread Dave Carlson
Yes, Mine has been set to “some” and Also to “All”. Still no joy. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of

Re: Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-14 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Dave, Mine does announce negative numbers in the Numbers app. What is your punctuation level set to? Mine is to some. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 14, 2019, at 10:30, Dave Carlson

Still Need Help with Negative Numbers

2019-09-14 Thread Dave Carlson
Any takers out there? I still haven’t figured out a way to have VO specifically verbalize parenthesis or minus signs in Excel. And this also appears to be a problem using theNumbers app. Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following