Re: tables on websites

2009-07-25 Thread william lomas
hopefuly in snowleopard that will be implemented On 26 Jul 2009, at 04:22, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi Jon and all who responded, > > Thanks so much for suggesting group navigation. You're right - it > works wonderfully in this situation. I agree with whoever suggested a > keystroke for cha

Re: tables on websites

2009-07-25 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Jon and all who responded, Thanks so much for suggesting group navigation. You're right - it works wonderfully in this situation. I agree with whoever suggested a keystroke for changing between group and DOM navigation. I will definitely browse with VoiceOver Preferences open for a while

Re: tables on websites

2009-07-24 Thread James Mannion
I thought it might be useful to mention that if you are on a site and you open up the voiceover utility and then go to the web settings, if you switch modes it will switch the mode on the web site you are currently on when you switch back to the safari window. For now that is the best for a "swit

Re: tables on websites

2009-07-24 Thread Mike Arrigo
Voice over does not have a table navigation mode as the windows screen readers do, so you would simply navigate it item by item. Usually this works fine. On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi, > > I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information in

Re: tables on websites

2009-07-24 Thread william lomas
is snow leopard out do we know in september? On 24 Jul 2009, at 16:40, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > This is one place where "group navigation" really works well. Even if > you use "dom navigation" for most web pages, I would suggest switching > to group navigation for this site. (too bad there is

Re: tables on websites

2009-07-24 Thread erik burggraaf
What we really need is a key to switch quickly back and fourth between the two modes. People will have been harping on the apple accessibility team about this for ages. I'll be shocked and horrified if it isn't implemented in snow leppard. best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician an

Re: tables on websites

2009-07-24 Thread Barry Hadder
I should have mentioned that in my prior post. I didn't think about it as I always have group turned on. What I said above about reading individual columns only works when group is on. On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > This is one place where "group navigation" rea

Re: tables on websites

2009-07-24 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi, Usually you can just put the VO cursor on the column you want to read and VO-down will read the next item in the column. That being said, VO will recognize tables in snow leopard. On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > > Hi, > > I just went to a banking site with Saf

Re: tables on websites

2009-07-24 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
This is one place where "group navigation" really works well. Even if you use "dom navigation" for most web pages, I would suggest switching to group navigation for this site. (too bad there is not a way to customize this on a per a site basis). Jon On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Woody Anna

tables on websites

2009-07-24 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi, I just went to a banking site with Safari that presents information in tables, as I know from visiting the site using Firefox in Windows. There is no indication of these tables with VoiceOver, however, so I can't interact with them as I do the messages table in Mail, where I can move