Re: notes app and evernote

[Ben J. Bloomgren]

I don't know anything about Evernote, but I know that the Notes app on my 
iPhone has become more of a friend due to the remind me of this command in 
Siri. Do you guys know of a better way not to forget about the notes that 
you write?


Ben- Original Message - 
From: "Christina C." 

To: "'Jason White' via MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 09:44
Subject: notes app and evernote


Hello,

On my mac I used to find the notes app to be just fine for quickly jotting 
down notes, especially from phone calls. Now when I use it I constantly hear 
voice Over saying “body, body, body” and I find this extremely annoying. 
This is very frustrating when I am navigating through notes to review or 
find information from my notes. I know voice Over is just announcing the 
style of my text but is there any way to make voice Over stop doing this? It’s 
making it very difficult to review my notes.


As a side thought, is EverNote voice Over friendly on the mac or iOS? Maybe 
I should switch to a different app for taking notes? It’s just so quick, or 
at least it used to be quick to take notes on my Mac or iPhone, especially 
if I use Siri to create a note for me.  Does EverNote have a mac app or just 
a web interface. I don’t know anything much about EverNote other than a lot 
of people use it.


BTW, I am using El Capitan.

Thanks,
Christina

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RE: Magic Trackpad

[Simon Fogarty]

Interesting that you say this.

I've got the new magic touch pad 2 and on pairing it the other day I find it's 
not allowing my vo gestures or the router 
I've been in to vo utilities and both reset and setup agin the vo settings I 
want and still it's not working as I'd like.


I would have thought it would work fine with Yosemite or does it need el 
capitan?

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Subject: Magic Trackpad

Its been ages since I had this connected. Now, while it is connected, I am 
unable to use normal VO gestures such as the flick left and right. I think I 
have looked at all settings but am drawing a blank. 
Hope someone can point me in the right direction. Thanks.

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Re: preview pain in L Capitan

[E.T.]

   Spoke too soon. Command shift p does the same thing. Is there a 
permanent way to hide the preview pane?


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On 3/1/2016 7:06 PM, E.T. wrote:

Wow this was good timing as I had the same question. It was not a
pain at all to get rid of the preview pane. Thanks John.

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On 3/1/2016 6:56 PM, John Panarese wrote:

   In El Capitan, you should be able to interact with the splitter and
use the VO-keys to collapse it. I don’t think it’s as challenging as
it used to be in previous OS versions.


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On Mar 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Raymond Foret Jr 
wrote:

Okay,

I am in the middle of a major OS reinstall.  I’m at the point now
where I”m needing to turn off the preview pain in L Capitan but
cannot tell how.  Anybody out there got the  procedure?

Thanks.


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Re: preview pain in L Capitan

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Now, which spliter do I interact with again?  The one just to the right of the 
message table?  Thanks.


> On Mar 1, 2016, at 8:56 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>  In El Capitan, you should be able to interact with the splitter and use the 
> VO-keys to collapse it. I don’t think it’s as challenging as it used to be in 
> previous OS versions.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> 
>> I am in the middle of a major OS reinstall.  I’m at the point now where I”m 
>> needing to turn off the preview pain in L Capitan but cannot tell how.  
>> Anybody out there got the  procedure?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: preview pain in L Capitan

[E.T.]

   Wow this was good timing as I had the same question. It was not a 
pain at all to get rid of the preview pane. Thanks John.


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On 3/1/2016 6:56 PM, John Panarese wrote:

   In El Capitan, you should be able to interact with the splitter and use the 
VO-keys to collapse it. I don’t think it’s as challenging as it used to be in 
previous OS versions.


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On Mar 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:

Okay,

I am in the middle of a major OS reinstall.  I’m at the point now where I”m 
needing to turn off the preview pain in L Capitan but cannot tell how.  Anybody 
out there got the  procedure?

Thanks.


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Re: The Best Cloud Storage Services that Protect Your Privacy

[Nancy Badger]

Does anyone know if the services that offer encryption are also voiceover 
accessible?

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> On Feb 25, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Enjoy,
> Traci
> 
> 
>> http://lifehacker.com/the-best-cloud-storage-services-that-protect-your-priva-729639300
>> 
>> The Best Cloud Storage Services that Protect Your Privacy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cloud storage is easy to come by. Dozens of services shovel tons of free 
>> space to you just for signing up. But which of those services are looking at 
>> the files you upload, and most importantly, which services encrypt your 
>> personal data so no one can look at it? Let's take a look.
>> 
>> You already know why you should care about your privacy, even if you think 
>> you have nothing to hide. Privacy is even more important when it comes to 
>> cloud storage. You trust the service you sign up for to keep your files safe 
>> and secure and away from prying eyes. Whether you use your cloud storage for 
>> music, tax returns, or backups, it's still important to know that your 
>> provider isn't rifling through your files to make sure the music isn't 
>> pirated. If their servers ever get hacked, you want to know your tax returns 
>> and financial documents are safe.
>> 
>> When we asked you for the best cloud storage providers, many of you asked an 
>> important question: Which services offered encryption or other security 
>> tools to keep your data safe from, well, anyone but you? Let's take a look.
>> 
>> Cloud Storage Services with Encryption Rolled In
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Encryption works. Whether you want to protect your documents from potential 
>> identity thieves, want your files locked down in case your laptop or phone 
>> is lost or stolen, or you're concerned about the whole NSA spying scandal, 
>> encrypting them is the only way to make sure you're the only one with access 
>> to them. That is, without a ton of effort, anyway. Here are some of the 
>> services that have encryption built into their technology.
>> 
>> SpiderOak
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> SpiderOak starts you off with 2GB for free, with more storage available at 
>> $10/mo for each additional 100GB you need. All of your files are encrypted 
>> locally on your computer, and then uploaded to SpiderOak's servers, and any 
>> changes you make to your files and folders are synced with the local 
>> decrypted versions before being secured and uploaded.
>> 
>> SpiderOak's "Zero Knowledge" privacy policy notes that because the 
>> encryption process takes place locally, they have no way of knowing what 
>> you're storing with them. Essentially, your data is completely private 
>> because you're the only person who knows what's being encrypted and 
>> transmitted. The only unencrypted versions live on your local computer. 
>> Also, since your data is encrypted locally with a password you choose, they 
>> have absolutely no way of decrypting it to see what's in your data store. At 
>> the same time, this also means that if you lose your password, SpiderOak 
>> can't retrieve it—or decrypt your locked files—for you.
>> 
>> In the past, SpiderOak limited its remote access and syncing options, but 
>> SpiderOak Hive, their new syncing service, along with their iOS and Android 
>> apps let you take your encrypted files on the go. The encryption and 
>> decryption process still takes place locally, but the only thing that's 
>> stored on SpiderOak's servers are your password, so they can authenticate 
>> you and direct you to the right files. When your remote session is over, 
>> they destroy your password, so you can be comfortable that you're the only 
>> person who can access your files. If you're looking for a secure option that 
>> stores your files in an encrypted form but doesn't sacrifice usability, 
>> SpiderOak is definitely worth a look.
>> 
>> SpiderOak uses a combination of 2048 bit RSA and 256 bit AES to encrypt your 
>> files. According to SpiderOak:
>> 
>> Most importantly, however, the outer level keys are never stored plaintext 
>> on the SpiderOak server. They are encrypted with 256 bit AES, using a key 
>> created by the key derivation/strengthening algorithm PBKDF2 (using sha256), 
>> with 16384 rounds, and 32 bytes of random data ("salt"). This approach 
>> prevents brute force and pre-computation or database attacks against the 
>> key. This means that a user who knows her password, can generate the outer 
>> level encryption key using PBKDF2 and the salt, then decipher the outer 
>> level keys, and be on the way to decrypting her data. Without knowledge of 
>> the password, however, the data is quite unreadable.
>> 
>> Wuala
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wuala encrypts your files locally, and then uploads them to the cloud for 
>> safe keeping. You start with 5GB for free, and after that it's $4/mo for 
>> 20GB, $7/mo for 50GB, or $12/mo for 

OS X blacklist accidentally disables Ethernet in El Capitan

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Well, here’s one reason to turn off SIP, anyway:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/02/os-x-blacklist-accidentally-disables-ethernet-in-os-x-10-11/

Silly Apple.  How can they expect to convince people that they’re a responsible 
gatekeeper when they pull crap like this?

Then again, it’s not like they care that deeply about the Mac anymore …

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Re: preview pain in L Capitan

[John Panarese]

  In El Capitan, you should be able to interact with the splitter and use the 
VO-keys to collapse it. I don’t think it’s as challenging as it used to be in 
previous OS versions.


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> On Mar 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> 
> I am in the middle of a major OS reinstall.  I’m at the point now where I”m 
> needing to turn off the preview pain in L Capitan but cannot tell how.  
> Anybody out there got the  procedure?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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preview pain in L Capitan

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Okay,

I am in the middle of a major OS reinstall.  I’m at the point now where I”m 
needing to turn off the preview pain in L Capitan but cannot tell how.  Anybody 
out there got the  procedure?

Thanks.


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Re: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille Reader?

[Cristina Hartmann]

Caitlyn,

You can go on the website and select BRP from the dropdown menu next to the
Download button. You'll get a file formatted specifically for a refreshable
braille reader. (But to read it on your device, you'll either need to do it
at a computer or use a SD card on a braille reader that has storage).

Everyone else,

Thanks so much for all of your help. I looked through the tip sheet that
Karen posted and it was very helpful. It seems like I was using Read2Go in
a suboptimal way (not separating the pages, etc.). I'll, however, try out
Voice Dream and see which app I prefer.

Have a great day, everyone!

Cristina

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> You are most welcome.  David goldfield  from the Bookshare list tells us
> he wrote you privately yesterday with the instructions for joining.  If
> this  did not reach you, and joining resonates, write me privately and I
> will facilitate.
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016, Cristina Hartmann wrote:
>
> Thanks Karen, I'll be on notice for a discussion group invite. The braille
>> guide looks great. Thanks so much for passing along the link!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Karen Lewellen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cristina, and others.
>>> On the bookshare discussion list Angela who works with technical support
>>> provided  this link to resources and training tools for using bookshare
>>> with IOS.  I felt it might be good to have the link in the list archive,
>>> so
>>> am sending it alone.
>>> i echo Angela's hope that it is helpful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bookshare.org/cms/help-center/training-and-resources/braille/reading-books-braille-ios
>>>
>>> Kare
>>>
>>>
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille
>>> Reader?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm pretty new to the refreshable braille reader and the associated
>>> technology in general, so please bear with me. I'm probably goofing
>>> something up.
>>>
>>> I have a Humanware Brailliant Bi 40 and I have a Bookshare membership. I
>>> want to read the books in braille as I am hearing impaired, so I hate
>>> listening to books. I'm using the Bookshare Read2Go app, but I find the
>>> app
>>> clunky and difficult to use on the braille display. For example, some
>>> pretty basic commands, such as "scroll page down" doesn't work with the
>>> Brailliant.
>>>
>>> I know I can download a file specialized for refreshable braille readers
>>> on the website, but I prefer to read away from my desktop.
>>>
>>> Has anyone found a good way to use Bookshare with a refreshable braille
>>> reader? Or am I missing some tips?
>>>
>>> Any help would be enormously appreciated!  Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Cristina
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: Custom Voice Settings

[Ben Constantini]

Hi Tony , just saw your post . Not sure if you got an answer , But it you Go to 
accessibility / voiceover Utility / speech , than toggle to voices and enter on 
Custom , you can scroll through some voices . You can than sample and check off 
the ones you like . Hope this makes sense . Nice to see you on here .

Ben C.

> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:33 PM, Tony  wrote:
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> Hi, 
> Where can I get these voices, and how do I get them to run on my mac?
> Thank you.
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>Yes they are.
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Re: Magic Trackpad

[E.T.]

   Found that solution on Applevis. Seems to be a bug. Thanks. Applevis 
is a great resource.


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Hi, Try making sure that trackpad commander is turned on, VO and rotate right 
on the rotor.

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   Its been ages since I had this connected. Now, while it is connected, I am 
unable to use normal VO gestures such as the flick left and right. I think I 
have looked at all settings but am drawing a blank. Hope someone can point me 
in the right direction. Thanks.

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Re: Magic Trackpad

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi, Try making sure that trackpad commander is turned on, VO and rotate right 
on the rotor.

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> On Mar 1, 2016, at 18:40, E.T.  wrote:
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>   Its been ages since I had this connected. Now, while it is connected, I am 
> unable to use normal VO gestures such as the flick left and right. I think I 
> have looked at all settings but am drawing a blank. Hope someone can point me 
> in the right direction. Thanks.
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Re: Magic Trackpad

[Jason Shaw]

Trackpad commander on?

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Magic Trackpad

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   Its been ages since I had this connected. Now, while it is 
connected, I am unable to use normal VO gestures such as the flick left 
and right. I think I have looked at all settings but am drawing a blank. 
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Re: notes app and evernote

[Alex Hall]

I'm not at my Mac to try this, but have you adjusted your verbosity? Hit vo-v, 
right or left arrow to Verbosity, and up or down arrow to medium or low. See if 
that helps. 

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> Hello,
> 
> On my mac I used to find the notes app to be just fine for quickly jotting 
> down notes, especially from phone calls. Now when I use it I constantly hear 
> voice Over saying “body, body, body” and I find this extremely annoying. This 
> is very frustrating when I am navigating through notes to review or find 
> information from my notes. I know voice Over is just announcing the style of 
> my text but is there any way to make voice Over stop doing this? It’s making 
> it very difficult to review my notes.
> 
> As a side thought, is EverNote voice Over friendly on the mac or iOS? Maybe I 
> should switch to a different app for taking notes? It’s just so quick, or at 
> least it used to be quick to take notes on my Mac or iPhone, especially if I 
> use Siri to create a note for me.  Does EverNote have a mac app or just a web 
> interface. I don’t know anything much about EverNote other than a lot of 
> people use it.
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Re: beginning of table in mail

[Alex Hall]

Are you interacting with the table? As far as I know, you have to NOT be 
interacting for that command to work. 

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> On Mar 1, 2016, at 16:14, Christina C.  wrote:
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> Hmmm, I can’t get option up or down arrow to do anything. What am I doing 
> wrong? Quick Nav is turned off
> 
> 
> Christina
>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I press option up arrow or down arrow to get to the top/bottom of the table.
>> 
>> hth
>>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Christina C.  wrote:
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>>> I cannot get Vo, shift, FN, left arrow to take me to the beginning of the 
>>> table in mail. This issue started with El Capitan. Any ideas, Did the key 
>>> combinations change? I do not have quick nav on.
>>> 
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Re: 1password for mac

[E.T.]

   Open Safari and in the toolbar navigate to Downloads, open that, and 
select the extension and install it.


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On 3/1/2016 1:43 PM, Marie Lyons wrote:

I already downloaded it I thought.

On Mar 1, 2016, at 1:24 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Marie,
   Open 1Password, go to its preferences, select Browsers on the toolbar, find 
the Install Browser Extensions button and activate it. You will be taken to the 
1Password site where you can download the Safari extension.

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How do you get it to fill in your login information? I do have the extension 
for safari. I saw a command in keyboard shortcuts of command backslash but it 
didn’t work. I also can’t figure out how to open the user guide. Is there a 
shortcut?

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Re: 1password for mac

[Marie Lyons]

I already downloaded it I thought.
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 1:24 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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> Marie,
>   Open 1Password, go to its preferences, select Browsers on the toolbar, find 
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Re: beginning of table in mail

[Christina C.]

Hmmm, I can’t get option up or down arrow to do anything. What am I doing 
wrong? Quick Nav is turned off


Christina
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I press option up arrow or down arrow to get to the top/bottom of the table.
> 
> hth
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>> table in mail. This issue started with El Capitan. Any ideas, Did the key 
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Re: beginning of table in mail

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I press option up arrow or down arrow to get to the top/bottom of the table.

hth
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Christina C.  wrote:
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> table in mail. This issue started with El Capitan. Any ideas, Did the key 
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Re: beginning of table in mail

[Christina C.]

Oh, thanks, that worked. what does vo, FN, shift, left or right arrow do now?  
I don’t get it, is it page up and page down?

Thanks,
Christina
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
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> Hi Christina,
> 
> Apple added a new key combination for this: VO + FN + arrow right or left
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
>> Am 01.03.2016 um 17:55 schrieb Christina C. :
>> 
>> I cannot get Vo, shift, FN, left arrow to take me to the beginning of the 
>> table in mail. This issue started with El Capitan. Any ideas, Did the key 
>> combinations change? I do not have quick nav on.
>> 
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>> Christina
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Re: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille Reader?

[Karen Lewellen]

You are most welcome.  David goldfield  from the Bookshare list tells us 
he wrote you privately yesterday with the instructions for joining.  If 
this  did not reach you, and joining resonates, write me privately and I 
will facilitate.

Kare


On Tue, 1 Mar 2016, Cristina Hartmann wrote:


Thanks Karen, I'll be on notice for a discussion group invite. The braille
guide looks great. Thanks so much for passing along the link!


On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Karen Lewellen 
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Hi Cristina, and others.
On the bookshare discussion list Angela who works with technical support
provided  this link to resources and training tools for using bookshare
with IOS.  I felt it might be good to have the link in the list archive, so
am sending it alone.
i echo Angela's hope that it is helpful.




https://www.bookshare.org/cms/help-center/training-and-resources/braille/reading-books-braille-ios

Kare


To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille Reader?


Hi all,

I'm pretty new to the refreshable braille reader and the associated
technology in general, so please bear with me. I'm probably goofing
something up.

I have a Humanware Brailliant Bi 40 and I have a Bookshare membership. I
want to read the books in braille as I am hearing impaired, so I hate
listening to books. I'm using the Bookshare Read2Go app, but I find the app
clunky and difficult to use on the braille display. For example, some
pretty basic commands, such as "scroll page down" doesn't work with the
Brailliant.

I know I can download a file specialized for refreshable braille readers
on the website, but I prefer to read away from my desktop.

Has anyone found a good way to use Bookshare with a refreshable braille
reader? Or am I missing some tips?

Any help would be enormously appreciated!  Thanks.

Best,
Cristina

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Re: beginning of table in mail

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Christina,

Apple added a new key combination for this: VO + FN + arrow right or left

All the best
Jürgen

> Am 01.03.2016 um 17:55 schrieb Christina C. :
> 
> I cannot get Vo, shift, FN, left arrow to take me to the beginning of the 
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> combinations change? I do not have quick nav on.
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Re: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille Reader?

[Caitlyn Furness]

Christina,

you can also use voice dream reader on your i phone, paired with your 
brilliant, to read electronic braille.  that way, you can be wherever you want 
to be when you read your books.

I haven’t tried this yet, with my own brilliant, but I am just now 
experiementing with it with my i phone.

thanks for telling us about the special version of books for refreshable 
displays-where on the site do you find this, please?

thanks,
Caitlyn

> On Feb 29, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Cristina Hartmann  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, but I'm looking for a solution that would work for mobile as I don't 
> like to read books at my computer. (Bookshare's website offers a download 
> file specifically for refreshable braille reader, but as I mentioned, I hate 
> being stuck at my computer for leisure reading.) 
> 
> Thanks for the idea of VoiceDream, though. I'll have to investigate that. 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:44 PM,  > wrote:
> I would try Bookshare web reader on the Mac although I am not sure how it 
> will work with braille display. VoiceDream reader for iOS might 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Cristina Hartmann  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm pretty new to the refreshable braille reader and the associated 
>> technology in general, so please bear with me. I'm probably goofing 
>> something up.
>> 
>> I have a Humanware Brailliant Bi 40 and I have a Bookshare membership. I 
>> want to read the books in braille as I am hearing impaired, so I hate 
>> listening to books. I'm using the Bookshare Read2Go app, but I find the app 
>> clunky and difficult to use on the braille display. For example, some pretty 
>> basic commands, such as "scroll page down" doesn't work with the Brailliant. 
>> 
>> I know I can download a file specialized for refreshable braille readers on 
>> the website, but I prefer to read away from my desktop. 
>> 
>> Has anyone found a good way to use Bookshare with a refreshable braille 
>> reader? Or am I missing some tips?
>> 
>> Any help would be enormously appreciated!  Thanks.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Cristina 
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Re: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille Reader?

[Cristina Hartmann]

Thanks Karen, I'll be on notice for a discussion group invite. The braille
guide looks great. Thanks so much for passing along the link!


On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> Hi Cristina, and others.
> On the bookshare discussion list Angela who works with technical support
> provided  this link to resources and training tools for using bookshare
> with IOS.  I felt it might be good to have the link in the list archive, so
> am sending it alone.
> i echo Angela's hope that it is helpful.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.bookshare.org/cms/help-center/training-and-resources/braille/reading-books-braille-ios
>
> Kare
>
>
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille Reader?
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm pretty new to the refreshable braille reader and the associated
> technology in general, so please bear with me. I'm probably goofing
> something up.
>
> I have a Humanware Brailliant Bi 40 and I have a Bookshare membership. I
> want to read the books in braille as I am hearing impaired, so I hate
> listening to books. I'm using the Bookshare Read2Go app, but I find the app
> clunky and difficult to use on the braille display. For example, some
> pretty basic commands, such as "scroll page down" doesn't work with the
> Brailliant.
>
> I know I can download a file specialized for refreshable braille readers
> on the website, but I prefer to read away from my desktop.
>
> Has anyone found a good way to use Bookshare with a refreshable braille
> reader? Or am I missing some tips?
>
> Any help would be enormously appreciated!  Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Cristina
>
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>
>


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Re: 1password for mac

[E.T.]

Marie,
   Open 1Password, go to its preferences, select Browsers on the 
toolbar, find the Install Browser Extensions button and activate it. You 
will be taken to the 1Password site where you can download the Safari 
extension.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/1/2016 9:26 AM, Marie Lyons wrote:

How do you get it to fill in your login information? I do have the extension 
for safari. I saw a command in keyboard shortcuts of command backslash but it 
didn’t work. I also can’t figure out how to open the user guide. Is there a 
shortcut?

Marie



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Recording iPad Screen (again)

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

Thank you for your guidance earlier on this topic.

I am, however, unable to record the screen without recording Voiceover and also 
recording my voice through the built-in mic on my Macbook Pro.  Is this 
possible?

Here is what I've done:

1.  Connect the iPad
2.  Launch Quicktime
3.  Hit [ctrl]+[command]+n to open the screen capture window
4.  Set the input device to the iPad.
5.  Press the 100% volume button

If I go into the input selection box again to select the built-in mic, it 
switches away from the iPad.

So, this allows me to hear what I'm doing on the iPad, but it is added to the 
recording.  Can I hear Voiceover while still only having my voice recorded 
through the built-in mic?

Thanks for your assistance.

Jeff

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1password for mac

[Marie Lyons]

How do you get it to fill in your login information? I do have the extension 
for safari. I saw a command in keyboard shortcuts of command backslash but it 
didn’t work. I also can’t figure out how to open the user guide. Is there a 
shortcut?

Marie

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beginning of table in mail

[Christina C.]

I cannot get Vo, shift, FN, left arrow to take me to the beginning of the table 
in mail. This issue started with El Capitan. Any ideas, Did the key 
combinations change? I do not have quick nav on.

Thanks,
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Re: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille Reader?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Cristina, and others.
On the bookshare discussion list Angela who works with technical support provided  this 
link to resources and training tools for using bookshare with IOS.  I felt 
it might be good to have the link in the list archive, so am sending it 
alone.

i echo Angela's hope that it is helpful.



https://www.bookshare.org/cms/help-center/training-and-resources/braille/reading-books-braille-ios

Kare


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Subject: Best Way to Read Bookshare Books on a Refershable Braille Reader?

Hi all,

I'm pretty new to the refreshable braille reader and the associated technology 
in general, so please bear with me. I'm probably goofing something up.

I have a Humanware Brailliant Bi 40 and I have a Bookshare membership. I want to read the 
books in braille as I am hearing impaired, so I hate listening to books. I'm using the 
Bookshare Read2Go app, but I find the app clunky and difficult to use on the braille 
display. For example, some pretty basic commands, such as "scroll page down" 
doesn't work with the Brailliant.

I know I can download a file specialized for refreshable braille readers on the 
website, but I prefer to read away from my desktop.

Has anyone found a good way to use Bookshare with a refreshable braille reader? 
Or am I missing some tips?

Any help would be enormously appreciated!  Thanks.

Best,
Cristina

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notes app and evernote

[Christina C.]

Hello,

On my mac I used to find the notes app to be just fine for quickly jotting down 
notes, especially from phone calls. Now when I use it I constantly hear voice 
Over saying “body, body, body” and I find this extremely annoying. This is very 
frustrating when I am navigating through notes to review or find information 
from my notes. I know voice Over is just announcing the style of my text but is 
there any way to make voice Over stop doing this? It’s making it very difficult 
to review my notes.

As a side thought, is EverNote voice Over friendly on the mac or iOS? Maybe I 
should switch to a different app for taking notes? It’s just so quick, or at 
least it used to be quick to take notes on my Mac or iPhone, especially if I 
use Siri to create a note for me.  Does EverNote have a mac app or just a web 
interface. I don’t know anything much about EverNote other than a lot of people 
use it.

BTW, I am using El Capitan.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Custom Voice Settings

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Oh, i haven’t follow this thread enough i see.
/A
> On 01 Mar 2016, at 02:12, E.T.  wrote:
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>   Yes they are.
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> On 2/29/2016 4:44 PM, 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> cool are they info vox voices
>> 
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Re: Custom Voice Settings

[Anders Holmberg]

No!
> On 01 Mar 2016, at 01:44, 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries 
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> cool are they info vox voices
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Re: Accessible Program to Tell Me What is taking up so much space

[Carter Temm]

For the 10 biggest directories, open up terminal and type the following
cd /
du -s * | sort -n | tail - 10
Just substitute The number at the end of that command for however many large 
directories you want displayed

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> On Feb 29, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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> Hey all,
> 
> Had not fired up my Mac Air in awhile and I do not keep that much on it but 
> all of the sudden it is almost full and I have no clue what is taking up so 
> much space. Does anyone know of an accessible program that will analyze your 
> hard drive and tell you what is taking up so much space. I was surprised to 
> learn they suggest a third party program to do this, and there are a ton of 
> them but not sure which one may be accessible. Any advice is appreciated. 
> Thanks,
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Re: one password for mac

[Scott Granados]

Now I know you’re ok, anyone who gets that excited and involved with their 
password manager is cool with  me.:)

> On Mar 1, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  1Password looks great, and like the right overall choice for Mac and 
> iOS.  A touch expensive, but the Wi-Fi sync feature alone is worth it.  I’m 
> not going with LastPass because (1) LogMeIn owns it and (2) let’s be honest, 
> it’s lock-in.  And it turns out that KeePass for iOS isn’t official and only 
> supports cloud storage.
> 
> The 1Password data storage location for folder sync can be managed, and it 
> performs regular backups.  The OPVault format is the cross-platform way to 
> get the data out.  I don’t think the SQLite database is meant to be 
> manipulated.
> 
> Yeah, going to have some fun with this. :)
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Re: Accessible Program to Tell Me What is taking up so much space

[Scott Granados]

Just to add to this, don’t be afraid of the unix shell.  It’s very good that 
you’re cautious and take care but it’s not that delicate.  The du command for 
example is totally read only.  I understand the fear but it’s a powerful part 
of your computer and you may want to revisit that issue.  Again though if you 
really don’t feel comfortable then no pressure just a friendly suggestion.

> On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> The most likely suspects are TImeMachine if you have it enabled, and do not 
> have the backup disk connected.
> Bittorrent clients.
> 
> In any case, I love to use du 
> 
> the command 
> cd / du -s * | sort -n | tail - 20 
> 
> While this command will take a while to run it should give you the 
> directories that are the 20 largest.
> 
> Take care,
> Jonathan 
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 18:29, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Another option might be Clean My Mac.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 2/29/2016 3:23 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>>> Appreciate it but as you said Onix does not seem to do what I am trying
>>> to do as I installed it earlier and it seemed to do everything except
>>> tell you what is taking up space, and unfortunately disk utility which
>>> you would think would tell you what is taking up space on your computer
>>> does not do that. This is mind boggling as there is next to nothing in
>>> my music photos downloads or documents and applications yet the drive is
>>> 84% full with only 6 gigs free so I am assuming it is something in the
>>> services folder that should not be there but I cannot find it very
>>> strange. Thanks,
 On Feb 29, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Seyoon Choi > wrote:
 
 Here is the link to download from Mac update.
 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx
 Also if you are willing to see what’s taking up most disk storage
 space disk utility might do the job. Onyx is more gear towards file
 optimization and disk cleanup.
 Hope it helps,
 
 Best,
 Seyoon Choi
 syc20...@gmail.com 
 YouTube Video Content Producer
 Head of Blindinsider
 www.blindinsider.com 
 Technology news, podcasts, videos and lifestyle for blind and visually
 impaired
 
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Brian Fischler  > wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately I could not find the program you mentioned and just
> bought one that of course does not work with VO, so back to ground
> zero here so if anyone knows of an accessible program that will tell
> you what is taking up space on your computer do let me know just
> something basic as this is getting ridiculous as it should not be
> this hard and take this long to find out what is taking up space on a
> mac. Ridiculous that you even have to get a third party program to do
> this.
>> On Feb 29, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> There is a program called Drive Pulse.
>> I think it can do what you want and for me it was quite accessible.
>> I don’t remember their site now but i can check it out for you if
>> you don’t want to search on google yourself.
>> /A
>>> On 29 Feb 2016, at 21:10, Brian Fischler >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am a unix dummy and do nor want to mess around in there. Yes,
>>> emptying the trash was my first troubleshoot. Read about what to do
>>> on cnet and macworld or one of those sites.
 On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:50 PM, E.T. > wrote:
 
 Don't know of one but when is the last time you dumped the Trash?
 I would look at that first.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 2/29/2016 11:44 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> Had not fired up my Mac Air in awhile and I do not keep that much
> on it but all of the sudden it is almost full and I have no clue
> what is taking up so much space. Does anyone know of an
> accessible program that will analyze your hard drive and tell you
> what is taking up so much space. I was surprised to learn they
> suggest a third party program to do this, and there are a ton of
> them but not sure which one may be accessible. Any advice is
> appreciated. Thanks,
> 
 
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RE: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Simon Fogarty]

Ok folks,

 Can't we put this to rest?

 Anne and Jonathan have produced a good product that can only increase our 
abilities when using pages / Voiceover.

As for handing out copies of the book for free,

All I can say is if you do that then I hope you know your copywrite laws, 
because that's a breech of copywrite!

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 1:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with 
VoiceOver

 

Don't do me any favors Jason. Your offer has a taint to it.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 29, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Jason Shaw  wrote:
> 
> I have the book, and I'll happily share it for free with anybody who 
> asks. Contact me if you want it.
> 
>> On 2/29/2016 12:55 PM, Basioli George wrote:
>> well i seem to remember having to buy all my text books in college.  so, why 
>> can not ann make money on her eduicational material?
>> 
>> so in your comment all knoledge is not free get a life
>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 23:21 PM, Jason Shaw  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is so much value in the distribution of free knowledge. I 
>>> don't need to repeat myself, but it's pretty obvious.
>>> 
 On 2/29/2016 7:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
 So the work you put in to things for yourself and others is not worth 
 anything to you or your family?
 
 I have no problem paying Anne and her husband for their work on 
 producing this guide,
 
 They've worked hard to put it together,
 
 And it's supporting this sort of work that helps us all go forward.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shaw
 Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 7:13 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on 
 the Mac with VoiceOver
 
 Heard the same before. I don't think the authors will die if the book is 
 freely available. There are other ways of making money other than sharing 
 beneficial knowledge.
 
> On 2/29/2016 3:50 AM, E.T. wrote:
>  Cross your fingers and hope Donald Trump wins the election, then 
> maybe he will make everything and even the air you breathe free.
> 
>  You ARE free to decide not to fork over $35. At the end of the 
> day, if you do not like going hungry, or sleeping outside in 
> winter, then you might remember that no one else does either. Don't be so 
> cheap.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it 
> were true?
> 
>> On 2/28/2016 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw wrote:
>> $35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free 
>> to everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who 
>> have the ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.
>> 
>>> On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
>>> I see both sides of this argument.
>>> 
>>> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely 
>>> available means that it can be given to as wide of an audience 
>>> as humanly possible. However, I’m sure putting a book like this 
>>> together is no simple task. It probably requires a lot of 
>>> time—time that the author could be using to do other things for 
>>> themselves and or their family.  I have no problem compensating 
>>> somebody for something as long as it’s well researched and full of 
>>> useful knowledge.
>>> 
>>> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS 
>>> with Voiceover to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this 
>>> book and encorporate some of its information into training 
>>> sessions as appropriate.  Also, even though $35 may seem like a 
>>> lot of money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s 
>>> not, in the grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a 
>>> book like this priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to 
>>> expect reasonable prices from Mosen Consulting, and would be 
>>> shocked if they ever tried to charge that much for this knowledge.
>>> 
>>> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.
>>> 
>>> DFTBA!
>>> 
>>> John D. Lipsey
>>> 
>>> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Twitter: @J_TGL
>>> 
 On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:
 
 This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
 Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge 
 which would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they 
 financially able or not.
 
 
> 

RE: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver

[Simon Fogarty]

When I think about it I'm not sure what issue people have with paying $35 USA 
to buy this eBook,

I'm guessing it will cost me around $50 NZ dollars to buy the same book, 
But I'll be buying it.

 


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 5:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with 
VoiceOver

Well, I agree there is value in sharing knowledge but in capitalistic 
economies, value is usually given for value received. That's why educators and 
others who advance knowledge are paid for their services. Maybe you should 
explain what you mean by free knowledge because it seems as if it's your 
singular opinion. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:21 AM, Jason Shaw  wrote:
> 
> There is so much value in the distribution of free knowledge. I don't 
> need to repeat myself, but it's pretty obvious.
> 
>> On 2/29/2016 7:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> So the work you put in to things for yourself and others is not worth 
>> anything to you or your family?
>> 
>> I have no problem paying Anne and her husband for their work on 
>> producing this guide,
>> 
>> They've worked hard to put it together,
>> 
>> And it's supporting this sort of work that helps us all go forward.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Shaw
>> Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 7:13 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the 
>> Mac with VoiceOver
>> 
>> Heard the same before. I don't think the authors will die if the book is 
>> freely available. There are other ways of making money other than sharing 
>> beneficial knowledge.
>> 
>>> On 2/29/2016 3:50 AM, E.T. wrote:
>>>   Cross your fingers and hope Donald Trump wins the election, then 
>>> maybe he will make everything and even the air you breathe free.
>>> 
>>>   You ARE free to decide not to fork over $35. At the end of the 
>>> day, if you do not like going hungry, or sleeping outside in winter, 
>>> then you might remember that no one else does either. Don't be so cheap.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
 On 2/28/2016 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw wrote:
 $35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free 
 to everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have 
 the ability to will donate, those who cannot won't.
 
> On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
> I see both sides of this argument.
> 
> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely 
> available means that it can be given to as wide of an audience as 
> humanly possible. However, I’m sure putting a book like this 
> together is no simple task. It probably requires a lot of 
> time—time that the author could be using to do other things for 
> themselves and or their family.  I have no problem compensating 
> somebody for something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful 
> knowledge.
> 
> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS 
> with Voiceover to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book 
> and encorporate some of its information into training sessions as 
> appropriate.  Also, even though $35 may seem like a lot of 
> money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s not, in the 
> grand scheme of things, a bad price.  I could see a book like this 
> priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable 
> prices from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever 
> tried to charge that much for this knowledge.
> 
> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go.
> 
> DFTBA!
> 
> John D. Lipsey
> 
> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
> 
> Twitter: @J_TGL
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw  wrote:
>> 
>> This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be.
>> Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge 
>> which would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they 
>> financially able or not.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote:
>>> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to 
>>> have a free option to share with my assistive technology class. 
>>> The instructors know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, 
>>> and I was very unprepared to help them make a course for it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile .
>>> Devin Prater
>>> d.pra...@me.com 

Re: Weird problem in Keynote

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello!

Some time ago I had a very similar problem and what I did is to create a 
totally new presentation, copying the slides one by one into it. I also 
restored VoiceOver preferences, and I was through with it.

Hope it helps!

Sincerely,
Daniela Rubio

> El 1 mar 2016, a las 6:54, Mitchell Smith  escribió:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I am having a pretty serious problem I was hoping someone might be
> able to help me with.
> 
> I was giving a presentation today using Keynote when I noticed some
> very strange symptoms.
> 
> I open my slide deck and click play on the toolbar, I can interact
> with the current slide, but as soon as I navigate to the next slide
> VoiceOver refuses to interact with that slide.  It will read the slide
> title, but I can't interact with it to read the slide content.
> 
> 
> I have used this same slide deck, same version of keynote and same
> version of VoiceOver several times in the past with no issues, so I
> have no idea what might have changed to cause this problem.
> 
> I restored the slide deck from backup and even tried a different slide
> deck, same issue.
> 
> I checked in app store under updates and nothing has changed in the
> ast 30 days, and I gave this same presentation two weeks ago with no
> problems.
> 
> This is Keynote 6.6.1 on OSX 10.11.3 on a 13" Macbook Air.
> 
> Any suggestions on what I can try would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
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