Re: selecting noncontiguous items in a file folder

[Lorie McCloud]

do you mean interact once you open the folder?
My Youtube Channel:
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> On Nov 22, 2018, at 12:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> That's exactly what you need to do.  You need to make sure that you've 
> interacted with the folder though.  If you're just arrowing, then it won't 
> work.  So, interact with the folder then VO-arrow to the item you wish to 
> select, press VO-cmd-return, then VO-arrow to the next item you wish selected 
> and VO-cmd-return.  Continue that pattern, then cmd-c or whatever you wish to 
> do for the action to the selected items.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 23:20, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> can anybody tell me how to select noncontiguous items in a file/folder? I 
> have instructions here that say to press vo-command-return on them but that's 
> not working.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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When to quick nav, or not?

[Matt Turner]

Hi folks.
I’m just wondering when I should use quick nav?
I only turn it on, when I’m on the web.
Also, is there a way to copy the path of a folder? And how would I copy the 
path, once I’ve found the folder.

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Re: selecting noncontiguous items in a file folder

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, When you open the folder, all you're doing is either expanding a 
disclosure triangle, or opening the said folder in a new window.  You will 
still need to interact with the List table or the Column browser in order to do 
the non-contiguous selection.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 22, 2018, at 02:05, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

do you mean interact once you open the folder?
My Youtube Channel:
"www.youtube.com/loriemccloud  


> On Nov 22, 2018, at 12:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> That's exactly what you need to do.  You need to make sure that you've 
> interacted with the folder though.  If you're just arrowing, then it won't 
> work.  So, interact with the folder then VO-arrow to the item you wish to 
> select, press VO-cmd-return, then VO-arrow to the next item you wish selected 
> and VO-cmd-return.  Continue that pattern, then cmd-c or whatever you wish to 
> do for the action to the selected items.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 23:20, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> can anybody tell me how to select noncontiguous items in a file/folder? I 
> have instructions here that say to press vo-command-return on them but that's 
> not working.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: clarification

['Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries]

Once you are located in the folder containing the items:
Interact with the folder view by pressing VO+shift+down arrow.
Continue to hold down the vO keys as you use up and down arrows to scroll 
through the list of items.
On each item you wish to select, press the command+enter keys and then release 
them. You will hear the item added to your count of items selected. When done, 
you can act on the items selected such as moving or copying, etc.

I hope this helps you.

Kristeen


> On Nov 22, 2018, at 1:27 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
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> I'm wanting to select noncontiguous items in a file/folder on my Mac with a 
> keyboard.
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Re: When to quick nav, or not?

[Ryan Mann]

I usually turn off Quick Nav when I am editing a document such as in Pages or 
TextEdit.  If I am just navigating through dialog boxes, I have it on.  If you 
wanted, you could just have it off all of the time and just use Control Option 
and arrow keys to navigate.
 

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> On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
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> Hi folks.
> I’m just wondering when I should use quick nav?
> I only turn it on, when I’m on the web.
> Also, is there a way to copy the path of a folder? And how would I copy the 
> path, once I’ve found the folder.
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Re: When to quick nav, or not?

[Jonathan Cohn]

For your second question, copy the folder and then if you paste it into 
terminal  it should paste the path. For some reason, I don't find the need to 
copy a path as much on the Macintosh as I do on PC computers.  I thought I had 
pasted into plain text files in textedit to get the path also, but when I just 
tried that, I only got the file name not the full path.

If this is something you do often, a AppleScript that gets the pasteboard and 
then puts into a variable as text will help. I would not be surprised if you 
could also do this with automator. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Matt Turner  wrote:
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> Hi folks.
> I’m just wondering when I should use quick nav?
> I only turn it on, when I’m on the web.
> Also, is there a way to copy the path of a folder? And how would I copy the 
> path, once I’ve found the folder.
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Re: When to quick nav, or not?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Copy as Pathname Finder-
   Select document/folder in Finder.
  VO-shift-M.

   Select Copy but do not press Enter. While holding Option key, press 
Enter.


   Paste contents of clipboard into document or in Terminal window.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/22/2018 6:34 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
For your second question, copy the folder and then if you paste it into 
terminal  it should paste the path. For some reason, I don't find the 
need to copy a path as much on the Macintosh as I do on PC computers.  I 
thought I had pasted into plain text files in textedit to get the path 
also, but when I just tried that, I only got the file name not the full 
path.


If this is something you do often, a AppleScript that gets the 
pasteboard and then puts into a variable as text will help. I would not 
be surprised if you could also do this with automator.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Matt Turner > wrote:


Hi folks.
I’m just wondering when I should use quick nav?
I only turn it on, when I’m on the web.
Also, is there a way to copy the path of a folder? And how would I 
copy the path, once I’ve found the folder.


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Re: Homepod, was Not sure if this is off-topic it does concern Apple product

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi Tim!
That’s a very very good point.
I am at both apple’s and Android world.
Both OS have flaws and Issues but i can do much more easier on the Apple device 
than i actually can on an android.
On the other hand Android can  be changable to its maximum.
You can root the android devices (at your own risk).
But if you talk accessibility i’d say Android is not as accessible as the Apple 
Devices.
/A

> 22 nov. 2018 kl. 00:55 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, any company can have security issues.  The real issue is how your 
> personal information is used and how it is kept.  Google and Amazon use your 
> information in a much different way than Apple.  Apple does not store mounds 
> of personal information that is open to third party people for various 
> reasons.  The tracking of your usage data and other related information by 
> Google and Amazon leaves you more vulnerable to compromise than a company 
> that does not collect data in similar manners.
> 
> Another thing that I'd like to mention here is regarding the price of Apple 
> hardware.  Consider that both Google gains a huge amount of income from 
> advertising revenue.  Amazon from sales of just about anything.  Apple does 
> not have third party advertising revenue like Google, nor does it sell the 
> multitude of items that Amazon does.  Yes, Apple products are expensive 
> compared the other two products mentioned here, but think about it:
> 
> • Both the MacOS and iOS operating systems are free, not just for decimal 
> upgrades.  Do these employees work for free?
> • tons of Apple stock software is also free.  Do these developers work for 
> free?
> • Accessibility has been a priority for years.  I doubt that this team works 
> for free either.
> • I believe that the hardware in most Apple products, as well as the design 
> principles, is top tier.  The comparable hardware by Samsung and Google are 
> not priced that much different.  Sure you can get a Google Mini cheap, as you 
> can an Amazon Dot, but when you price the Google Home Max, it isn't that much 
> different price-wise as the HomePod.
> 
> We are all consumers.  We can buy all sorts of things at differing levels of 
> quality or price-points.  I can purchase three to one Windows boxes to iMacs 
> for my workplace, but the cost of ownership and longevity of the iMacs make 
> it a much more useful tool for the people we serve.
> 
> People need to look at this from more than one vantage point if they are 
> going to get a true sense of things.  If all you care about is price, then 
> purchase whatever fits your budget.
> 
> I'll stop now.  I have real work to do.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 09:39, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Also, any company can have security issues. That includes Apple. So all this 
> paranoya about Amazon and Google using your information is ridiculous.
> 
> Regards,
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> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 12:35 AM, lenron brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> That's right apple gets you by over charging you anyways. So they are
>> not really all out for the customer either. All these companies have
>> an end game I suppose. I would choose Amazon or google in the smart
>> speaker space or even sonos. Besides you can always hook them up to a
>> nice surround sound system, so I am not overly stressed about the
>> sound they put out. If I buy a smart speaker I want it to be smart and
>> come at a good price. Maybe I am just thinking as someone that doesn't
>> come from a place of just being able to drop the big bucks.
>> 
>> On 11/20/18, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>>> HI!
>>> Yes i totally agree even though i don’t have the google mini.
>>> I am thinking of the zeppelin air from B
>>> But i saw today that apple will have some black friday event.
>>> /A
>>> 
 20 nov. 2018 kl. 00:42 skrev lenron brown >>> >:
 
 If Siri was as good as the others then it would be worth it maybe. I
 love my little dot and now I want a google home mini. if apple soled a
 Mini with a fair price it might be worth looking at.
 
 On 11/19/18, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> 
 wrote:
> Thanks for the reply’s. I have read some reviews on the HomePod. And the
> folks doing reviewing seemed of the same general opinion regarding the
> quality of the hardware and that Siri lags behind in some respects. But
> I
> always find it interesting to get reviews from real people, rather than
> just
> from those being paid to write reviews.
> Mary
> 
> 
> 

Re: You must Update your New Iphone Before Using? what about battery?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Ok, thanks


> On Nov 23, 2018, at 4:35 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> Ramy,
>   I would go ahead and do whatever the phone needs. Don't concern yourself 
> about going to zero then doing a full charge.
> 
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> On 11/22/2018 6:10 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Urgent please, need your advice
>>> On Nov 22, 2018, at 11:21 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> As i Mentioned, I have just got the Iphone 8+.
>>> It has about 44% of it’s battery. so, when i put my Sim card on it, adn 
>>> start setting it up, it asked me that it should do the Ios 12 Update.
>>> and the battery must be 50%
>>> I knew that we should let the new batteries reached 0% before the 1st 
>>> Charge,
>>> so, now i must wait the Iphone to discharge by itself.
>>> DO you have a solution for this?
>>> Am very frustrated, because i can not use my Sim card.
>>> 
>>> ANy help?
>>> 
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Re: clarification

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thanks. I did that and it worked.
My Youtube Channel:
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> Once you are located in the folder containing the items:
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> On each item you wish to select, press the command+enter keys and then 
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> When done, you can act on the items selected such as moving or copying, etc.
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You must Update your New Iphone Before Using? what about battery?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

As i Mentioned, I have just got the Iphone 8+.
It has about 44% of it’s battery. so, when i put my Sim card on it, adn start 
setting it up, it asked me that it should do the Ios 12 Update.
and the battery must be 50%
I knew that we should let the new batteries reached 0% before the 1st Charge,
so, now i must wait the Iphone to discharge by itself.
 DO you have a solution for this?
Am very frustrated, because i can not use my Sim card.

ANy help?

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Messages on iPad

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   I usually do my texting on the iPhone but while I had my braille 
display connected to the iPad, I thought I would reply to some text 
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Re: Messages on iPad

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Hi,

The iPad puts things into two columns.  The left column is the list of message 
threads and the right is the list of messages pertaining to the selected 
thread.  So, VO-space, or double-tap, on the thread you wish to message in the 
left and the thread of messages will be on the right.  The edit field for the 
thread is down at the bottom of the thread content.

Later...

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On Nov 22, 2018, at 16:02, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  I usually do my texting on the iPhone but while I had my braille display 
connected to the iPad, I thought I would reply to some text messages. How? I 
could not find the edit field. :(

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Re: Messages on iPad

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   Thanks Tim, I found it but my braille display may need some more 
tweaking or I need to get used to using braille. iPhone no trouble.


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On 11/22/2018 4:29 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

The iPad puts things into two columns.  The left column is the list of 
message threads and the right is the list of messages pertaining to the 
selected thread.  So, VO-space, or double-tap, on the thread you wish to 
message in the left and the thread of messages will be on the right. 
  The edit field for the thread is down at the bottom of the thread content.


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   I usually do my texting on the iPhone but while I had my braille 
display connected to the iPad, I thought I would reply to some text 
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Re: You must Update your New Iphone Before Using? what about battery?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Urgent please, need your advice

> On Nov 22, 2018, at 11:21 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> As i Mentioned, I have just got the Iphone 8+.
> It has about 44% of it’s battery. so, when i put my Sim card on it, adn start 
> setting it up, it asked me that it should do the Ios 12 Update.
> and the battery must be 50%
> I knew that we should let the new batteries reached 0% before the 1st Charge,
> so, now i must wait the Iphone to discharge by itself.
> DO you have a solution for this?
> Am very frustrated, because i can not use my Sim card.
> 
> ANy help?
> 

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Re: You must Update your New Iphone Before Using? what about battery?

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Ramy,
   I would go ahead and do whatever the phone needs. Don't concern 
yourself about going to zero then doing a full charge.


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On 11/22/2018 6:10 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Urgent please, need your advice


On Nov 22, 2018, at 11:21 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi all:

As i Mentioned, I have just got the Iphone 8+.
It has about 44% of it’s battery. so, when i put my Sim card on it, adn start 
setting it up, it asked me that it should do the Ios 12 Update.
and the battery must be 50%
I knew that we should let the new batteries reached 0% before the 1st Charge,
so, now i must wait the Iphone to discharge by itself.
DO you have a solution for this?
Am very frustrated, because i can not use my Sim card.

ANy help?





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