Please Join Me in Requesting That the Yelp for iOS Category List View Bug Be Resolved

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

I recently posted the following Yelp for iOS review in the App Store
regarding a new category list view bug that occurs with or without VoiceOver
enabled..  

I hope you will add your voice to this request for help by using any or all
of it in your feedback to Yelp either on the App Store or via Twitter at:
@YelpSupport.

Thank you,

Mark

[BEGIN FEEDBACK]:

Subject:  Cannot Get the More Button, that Leads to Category View to be
Displayed

Hello,

In the latest version of this app, when location services are enabled, the
More button (see attached photo on Twitter), that is supposed to be listed
as the last icon in the group of icons near the top of the display, in the
Nearby Area, is not showing.  Unlike the More tab, located at the bottom of
the display, the button in question allows the user to see a complete list
of various categories from which to choose.

With location services enabled, I have been able to get the More icon to be
displayed on my iPhone 7 Plus (Verizon Wireless).  However, I cannot get it
to be displayed on my 6 Plus (Verizon Wireless), my 6 S Plus (Sprint), or my
8 Plus (AT Wireless) phones.  All of my devices are running iOS 11.3.

Currently, the only way I can get the More icon to be consistently displayed
is to uninstall the app from my phone, reboot the phone, reinstall the app,
and electing to not allow location services.  Then, and only then, does the
More iCon appear in its expected location.  The problem is that as soon as I
enable location services, the icon disappears.

This is an extremely annoying bug that I hope will be resolved as soon as
possible.

Thank you,

[END FEEDBACK]:

Mark

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Re: Contacts on iPhone se

[Jonathan Cohn]

Do you have a macintosh also? I generally clean up my contacts on the Mac and 
then they get pushed to my phone via iCloud services but still there is way too 
much. Another thing you can do is create a group of your favorite contacts and 
have the contacts and/or phone contact list just display that list of contacts, 
though I can't remember if the IOS contact applications lets you adjust contact 
groups.

 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 5, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Can someone recommend an easy way for me to edit my contacts on my iPhone SE?
> I have lots of them and want to get rid of all the duplicates and email 
> addresses.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
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> stacey...@bellsouth.net 
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Re: Something same as Times new Roman in pages

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

My version of Pages has Times New Roman.  I don't believe that I did anything 
special or downloaded any font set that I can recall.  For me, to use Times New 
Roman, I pressed cmd-t to show the Fonts window, made sure the collection was 
on English, then interacted with the Family table and Times New Roman was in 
there.  It was way down near the bottom, but they're in alphabetical order, so 
easy to locate.

HTH.


Later.../

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 5, 2018, at 16:44, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi all:

i need to write a paper in my university, and they asked  to be written using 
times new roman funt, but in pages there is no times new roman,
can i find an alternative that can give me the same result?
thanks in advance 

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Something same as Times new Roman in pages

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

i need to write a paper in my university, and they asked  to be written using 
times new roman funt, but in pages there is no times new roman,
can i find an alternative that can give me the same result?
thanks in advance 

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Re: Export a pages document to another format

[Leo Bado]

laughing out loud laughing out loud,

thank you Alex and Tim, what a fool, I had seen that menu before but 
never occured to me, in fact, that it  worked for any app.


so all I can do if making fun of me, lol


Leo Bado

El 5/4/2018 a las 08:56, Tim Kilburn escribió:

Leo,

To add to Alex's instructions, know that the menus are slightly 
different in the MacOS as compared to Windows.  That is, in Windows, 
the File, Edit, View etc menus are attached to the window of the 
application, whereas, the menus are permanently connected to the 
Desktop screen.  So, as Alex mentioned, VO-m will always access the 
menu bar whenever there is a menubar to be had.  From a visual 
prospective, the menubar resides at the top of the screen in all 
applications.  Items like Toolbars and ribbons reside within the 
window itself, thus can be access with regular VO navigation commands 
while in that window.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 5, 2018, at 04:23, Alex Hall > wrote:


This works in all applications: press vo-m. In case you're not 
familiar, the VO keys are control and option together. You can choose 
to use caps lock as well, but that's a different post.


You would hold down control and option, press m, then let the keys go. 
VoiceOver should announce that you're on the Apple menu. Press right 
arrow to get to the file menu, which should be two presses over, then 
down arrow to open the menu. You can now start typing "export", 
hitting enter when you land on it, or just down arrow to it. To 
clarify, you don't need to type the full word you want, just enough 
letters to find it. Again, this works in any menu in any application.l


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On Apr 5, 2018, at 06:12, Leo Bado > wrote:


hi everyone,

As I said in my introduction I'm totally new on macos systems.  Now 
what I want to do is this, since I'm using pages I want to know how 
to export a pages document to another format just like the support 
appple web site says it might be done.



here is what they say:

1.


2.

Open the document, then choose File > Export To > [/file format/]
(from the File menu at the top of your screen).

The File menu open with Export To selected, with its submenu
showing export options for PDF, Word, Plain Text, Rich Text
Format, EPUB, and Pages '09.

3.

Specify export settings:


but happens to be I can't find the file  tab, when I'm in pages and I go to the 
tool bar, I start  interacting with with it but when I move right or left I 
only find the viiew, insert, table, chart, etc.
but as I said I can't find the file tab or menu.
I need help here please.
I'm using latest version of macos high sierra and just downloaded pages few 
days ago.
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Contacts on iPhone se

[Stacey Robinson]

Hello,
Can someone recommend an easy way for me to edit my contacts on my iPhone SE?
I have lots of them and want to get rid of all the duplicates and email 
addresses.

Blessings,

Stacey Robinson

stacey...@bellsouth.net

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iRingg app for mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

Softorino offers a new app called iRingg (spelt double g at the end).  It’s a 
ring tone app creator.  Josh Brown, the developer, has come up with a great app 
to create ring tones from one’s own tracks or tracks on YouTube.  It’s very 
accessible, and it pushes the ring tone straight to any devices associated with 
your computer, iphone, ipad, ipod etc.  I’ve been trying it for a couple of 
days and have quickly created a few ring tones from the tracks I like.  The 
only part that I’m having problems with is choosing the best part of the track 
I wish to use.  But it’s not a deal breaker for me as the app pretty much 
automates the rest of the process.  I’ve purchased it and I can’t now remember 
whether it is available as a trial version but check out Softorino website for 
that.

Andrew

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Re: Apple’s 2019 Mac Pro will be shaped by workflows | TechCrunch

[Steve Matzura]

Let's hope somebody will reengineer VoiceOver to not go busy so often. 
It has been said for years that it's because VO insists on not spreading 
its processing requirements over available cores. If that's true, and it 
sounds like it could be and probably is, what's taken them so long to 
fix that? Hopefully it will get done, along with all the spiffy other 
hardware and driver stuff mentioned in that article. We count, too, ya 
know, Timmy-me-boy.



On 4/5/2018 2:19 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:



https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/


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Re: Employment at Apple

[Karen Lewellen]

Thank you prince Tim!
Saves me sending that to anyone privately.
Cheers,
Karen


On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi Simon,

Not that I'm interested in transplanting to Toronto, too far away and too many 
people for my liking, but the posting is rather an interesting read.  It sounds 
like the available positions could depend on your skillset as well as the needs 
of the given Apple Store.  It would be worth your look to see if the equivalent 
organization in NZZ has anything similar.  Here's a link to the post if you 
care to take a look.

http://www.cnib.ca/en/news/Pages/Apple-Store-GTA-Hiring-Event.aspx 


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 5, 2018, at 06:52, Devin Prater  wrote:

With Apple???s public-facing disability person being on the AFB board now, 
hopefully more jobs can be opened for the blind, at Apple Stores or otherwise.


On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:54 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi karen,

Thanks or this,
No not canada  but new zealand is still pretty close or at least part of the 
empire.

I???ll be interested to hear what they are looking for if you can findout 
anything more.
and I???ll check with our rnzfb tomorrow about anythingn similar.

As well as applying to apple directly, the USA wold be a big change.


Simonf

Sent from my iPhone


On 5/04/2018, at 10:41 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Simon,
I cannot speak to your home country.
However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here where apple 
is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for possible employment.  they 
are coordinating the effort with CNIB  the Canadian National Institute for the 
blind.  The invitation  includes a place to share  your resume and if selected 
states  apple will  be meeting with prospects later this month or the next.
So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is qualified 
first and sight impaired as an extension.
Kare



On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,

I???m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team of 12 
saff staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don???t need first 
or second level IT support.

What I???d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the blind / 
visually impaired
I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?

The reaso I ask is I???m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there and I 
wasn???t sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso non USA citizans

Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be appreciated.\\\

Cheers,


Simon F

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Re: The problem of no windows when an app starts

[E.T.]

   Its broken. I stopped using this app long ago.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/5/2018 2:56 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

Ok,
I recently acquired a new machine here and it has high Sierra on board. So, I 
am getting used to a bunch of new stuff here. However, what I didn’t expect 
which was common on my old OS X Lion system was the case of an application 
starting, but not producing any windows. In the current case, the application 
is Onyx (from titanium software). It appears to start normally, but produces no 
windows. Any attempt to interact with the program Bia keyboard is met with a 
bonk sound. It also appears to ignore the terminate program command (CMD Q). It 
does announce a question “would you like onyx to control your machine”, but no 
dialog is visible to voiceover. I have even tried using the application chooser 
to find it, but onyx is not visible there either. I have already sent a support 
request off to Titanium Software, but don’t expect a response in any reasonable 
time.

Anyone got any clues as to how I can work around this?

Thanks,

Eric



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Re: Employment at Apple

[Karen Lewellen]

Where?
The e-mail lists everything from  sales to design, at least they are 
gathering  resumes via this CNIB effort.

If you are in Canada I can share it with you as well.
Perhaps apple members who monitor this list can confirm their process in 
general.

Kare


On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Steve Matzura wrote:


What jobs is Apple interested in filling?


On 4/5/2018 6:40 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Hi Simon,
  I cannot speak to your home country.
 However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here where
 apple is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for possible
 employment.  they are coordinating the effort with CNIB the Canadian
 National Institute for the blind.  The invitation includes a place to
 share  your resume and if selected states apple will  be meeting with
 prospects later this month or the next.
 So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is
 qualified first and sight impaired as an extension.
  Kare


 On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:

>  Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,
> 
>  I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team of 
>  12 saff staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
>  Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t need 
>  first or second level IT support.
> 
>  What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the 
>  blind / visually impaired

>  I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?
> 
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Re: The problem of no windows when an app starts

[Steve Matzura]

Time for VOCR.


On 4/5/2018 5:56 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

Ok,
I recently acquired a new machine here and it has high Sierra on board. So, I 
am getting used to a bunch of new stuff here. However, what I didn’t expect 
which was common on my old OS X Lion system was the case of an application 
starting, but not producing any windows. In the current case, the application 
is Onyx (from titanium software). It appears to start normally, but produces no 
windows. Any attempt to interact with the program Bia keyboard is met with a 
bonk sound. It also appears to ignore the terminate program command (CMD Q). It 
does announce a question “would you like onyx to control your machine”, but no 
dialog is visible to voiceover. I have even tried using the application chooser 
to find it, but onyx is not visible there either. I have already sent a support 
request off to Titanium Software, but don’t expect a response in any reasonable 
time.

Anyone got any clues as to how I can work around this?

Thanks,

Eric



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Re: Employment at Apple

[Steve Matzura]

What jobs is Apple interested in filling?


On 4/5/2018 6:40 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi Simon,
 I cannot speak to your home country.
However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here 
where apple is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for 
possible employment.  they are coordinating the effort with CNIB the 
Canadian National Institute for the blind.  The invitation includes a 
place to share  your resume and if selected states apple will  be 
meeting with prospects later this month or the next.
So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is 
qualified first and sight impaired as an extension.

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Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,

I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team 
of 12 saff staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t need 
first or second level IT support.


What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the 
blind / visually impaired

I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?

The reaso I ask is I’m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there and 
I wasn’t sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso non USA 
citizans


Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be appreciated.\\\

Cheers,


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Re: Employment at Apple

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Simon,
Will forward you the email privately.
I cannot say for the USA, even if born there.
Canada  can be a wonderfully positive change to be sure.
at least three or four such requests have come across my desk from 
Canadian companies in the past few months.

Karen


On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:


Hi karen,

Thanks or this,
No not canada  but new zealand is still pretty close or at least part of the 
empire.

I’ll be interested to hear what they are looking for if you can findout 
anything more.
and I’ll check with our rnzfb tomorrow about anythingn similar.

As well as applying to apple directly, the USA wold be a big change.


Simonf

Sent from my iPhone


On 5/04/2018, at 10:41 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

Hi Simon,
I cannot speak to your home country.
However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here where apple 
is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for possible employment.  they 
are coordinating the effort with CNIB  the Canadian National Institute for the 
blind.  The invitation  includes a place to share  your resume and if selected 
states  apple will  be meeting with prospects later this month or the next.
So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is qualified 
first and sight impaired as an extension.
Kare



On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,

I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team of 12 saff 
staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t need first or 
second level IT support.

What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the blind / 
visually impaired
I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?

The reaso I ask is I’m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there and I wasn’t 
sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso non USA citizans

Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be appreciated.\\\

Cheers,


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Re: TextEdit and Windows

[E.T.]

   Its ok. I am putting this aside for now.

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On 4/5/2018 7:20 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

ET,

In notepad++ there is a item in the editing menu for changing line endings. It 
looks like the Latin / Win encoding used “Unix”  style line endings. Windows 
expects the line to end with both a carriage return and a new line character. 
Which is not terribly surprising since DEC Operating Systems in the 1980’s also 
used both characters, and the idea to use “/“ to indicate the start of an 
option shows up in TOPS-10, VMS and the Operating System for the PDP=11 if I 
remember correctly.

  

On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:45 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Jonathan,
   My thinking is that most people will probably use the default applications 
so if I were to share a document created with TextEdit with a Windows user, it 
will not display correctly.

   I did some digging and think the reason Notepad fails here is because it 
does not support the Western encoding. It does support UTF-8 so I may 
experiment with the two apps.

   I did install Notepad++ just to see what it's like.

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On 4/4/2018 1:10 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Ah,
I did not test with notepad, just with MS Word. I suggest you use Notepad++ my 
office installed a copy of it on my system, and it automatically checks line 
endings and display text correctly weather you use PC/Mac?Linux.
There is also a one line regular expression that was once posted to this list 
that changes \r to \mn or perhaps \r\n to do this. You could then used sed or 
vi to correct the line endings and even create a droplet or contextual menu to 
do this conversion.
My guess is that the regular expression would be:
s/.$/\r\n/

On Apr 4, 2018, at 3:25 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Jonathan,
   I will need to look at this again as it did not work for me. Maybe I am not 
understanding the issue. I set the encoding to Western (DOS Latin 1) in 
TextEdit preferences, Open and Save.

   In TextEdit the text I enter displaud properly. If I look at the document 
with Windows Notepad all the text is on one line.

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On 4/4/2018 10:29 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Hello,
I had to do just a little bit of work to test this out…
1. In the save dialog choose the  encodings menu.
2. Choose the last item to customize available encodings.
3. Make sure "Western (DOS Latin 1)” is checked
4. Close the customize encodings dialog.
5. Select "Western (DOS Latin 1)” from the encoding menu. It will probably 
already be selected.
6. Now save your document.
HTH,
Jonathan Cohn
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On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:12 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   When reading a plain text document in Windows that was created with TextEdit 
on the Mac, the line returns are not respected. Isn't there a setting in 
TextEdit that will correct this? Thanks.

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Re: The problem of no windows when an app starts

[Andrew Lamanche]

Whenever it happens to me, it usually means that the app in question is not 
accessible with Voiceover. I usually promptly uninstall it.  The only way I can 
close it is by force shut down menu.

Andrew
> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
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> Ok,
> I recently acquired a new machine here and it has high Sierra on board. So, I 
> am getting used to a bunch of new stuff here. However, what I didn’t expect 
> which was common on my old OS X Lion system was the case of an application 
> starting, but not producing any windows. In the current case, the application 
> is Onyx (from titanium software). It appears to start normally, but produces 
> no windows. Any attempt to interact with the program Bia keyboard is met with 
> a bonk sound. It also appears to ignore the terminate program command (CMD 
> Q). It does announce a question “would you like onyx to control your 
> machine”, but no dialog is visible to voiceover. I have even tried using the 
> application chooser to find it, but onyx is not visible there either. I have 
> already sent a support request off to Titanium Software, but don’t expect a 
> response in any reasonable time.
> 
> Anyone got any clues as to how I can work around this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Eric
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Re: The problem of no windows when an app starts

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello Eric,

I just read a bit about this application, and apparently it runs a verify disk 
before bringing up the menu the first time it is run. I am not sure if you need 
to interact with this window or not and I have never used Onyx.

Take care,

Jonathan Cohn

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 5:56 AM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> Onyx

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Re: Choosing a mail folder in Microsoft Outlook for Mac

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Yes, I sorta noticed that but have ignored the issue hoping it would eventually 
go away. There is a way to give feedback and this would be a good issue  to 
provide issues to Microsoft.

I have sometimes found that I can type in the folder list, but as soon as the 
folder changes focus / VoiceOver moves to the message list. Also, there is some 
inconsistency with expand/colaspe sub-folders and a unlabeled icon with each 
folder name. 

I will say there has been some improvements in Outlook in the last six months 
though in terms of its interactions with VoiceOver. I guess I am a little wary 
of submitting bug reports to Microsoft because I am running an older Operating 
System but the fast insider build of MS Office.

> On Apr 4, 2018, at 8:52 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> One of my accounts needs to be accessed via Microsoft Outlook (i.e., the
> Exchange support in Apple Mail won't work with it).
> 
> Fortunately, Microsoft Outlook 2016 for Mac is quite accessible. I notice,
> however, that some functions are tedious to perform via the keyboard. A good
> example is selecting a folder from a list. I can use Ctrl-Option-Up/Down-Arrow
> keys to get there, but typing letters when VO is focusing on the list
> doesn't work.  Nor does Item Chooser - it tries to retrieve a long list of
> items and never completes building its menu.
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Re: Word Processing on the mac

[Devin Prater]

What is a good way to learn LaTex? Thanks

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:07 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> Ryan Mann  wrote:
>> You say that you convert Latex into other formats.  I thought about learning
>> Latex but I couldn’t find a way to convert into Word format.  Every thing I
>> read when I googled seemed to emply that there was not a reliable way to
>> convert to Word and keep the formatting.  Do you ever convert from Latex to
>> Word format? If so how?
> 
> No, I generally don't convert LaTeX to Word format. However, there are good
> converters to HTML, which Microsoft Word can read. There's also a converter to
> RTF. If you're careful in writing the LaTeX, Pandoc can actually convert to
> MS-Word format directly.
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Re: Employment at Apple

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Simon,

Not that I'm interested in transplanting to Toronto, too far away and too many 
people for my liking, but the posting is rather an interesting read.  It sounds 
like the available positions could depend on your skillset as well as the needs 
of the given Apple Store.  It would be worth your look to see if the equivalent 
organization in NZZ has anything similar.  Here's a link to the post if you 
care to take a look.

http://www.cnib.ca/en/news/Pages/Apple-Store-GTA-Hiring-Event.aspx 


Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 5, 2018, at 06:52, Devin Prater  wrote:

With Apple’s public-facing disability person being on the AFB board now, 
hopefully more jobs can be opened for the blind, at Apple Stores or otherwise.

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:54 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi karen,
> 
> Thanks or this,
> No not canada  but new zealand is still pretty close or at least part of the 
> empire.
> 
> I’ll be interested to hear what they are looking for if you can findout 
> anything more.
> and I’ll check with our rnzfb tomorrow about anythingn similar.
> 
> As well as applying to apple directly, the USA wold be a big change.
> 
> 
> Simonf
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 5/04/2018, at 10:41 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> I cannot speak to your home country.
>> However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here where 
>> apple is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for possible 
>> employment.  they are coordinating the effort with CNIB  the Canadian 
>> National Institute for the blind.  The invitation  includes a place to share 
>>  your resume and if selected states  apple will  be meeting with prospects 
>> later this month or the next.
>> So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is qualified 
>> first and sight impaired as an extension.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,
>>> 
>>> I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team of 12 
>>> saff staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
>>> Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t need first 
>>> or second level IT support.
>>> 
>>> What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the blind 
>>> / visually impaired
>>> I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?
>>> 
>>> The reaso I ask is I’m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there and I 
>>> wasn’t sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso non USA citizans
>>> 
>>> Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be appreciated.\\\
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Simon F
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Re: Word Processing on the mac

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Ryan Mann  wrote:
> You say that you convert Latex into other formats.  I thought about learning
> Latex but I couldn’t find a way to convert into Word format.  Every thing I
> read when I googled seemed to emply that there was not a reliable way to
> convert to Word and keep the formatting.  Do you ever convert from Latex to
> Word format? If so how?

No, I generally don't convert LaTeX to Word format. However, there are good
converters to HTML, which Microsoft Word can read. There's also a converter to
RTF. If you're careful in writing the LaTeX, Pandoc can actually convert to
MS-Word format directly.

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Re: Export a pages document to another format

[Tim Kilburn]

Leo,

To add to Alex's instructions, know that the menus are slightly different in 
the MacOS as compared to Windows.  That is, in Windows, the File, Edit, View 
etc menus are attached to the window of the application, whereas, the menus are 
permanently connected to the Desktop screen.  So, as Alex mentioned, VO-m will 
always access the menu bar whenever there is a menubar to be had.  From a 
visual prospective, the menubar resides at the top of the screen in all 
applications.  Items like Toolbars and ribbons reside within the window itself, 
thus can be access with regular VO navigation commands while in that window.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 5, 2018, at 04:23, Alex Hall  wrote:

This works in all applications: press vo-m. In case you're not familiar, the VO 
keys are control and option together. You can choose to use caps lock as well, 
but that's a different post.

You would hold down control and option, press m, then let the keys go. 
VoiceOver should announce that you're on the Apple menu. Press right arrow to 
get to the file menu, which should be two presses over, then down arrow to open 
the menu. You can now start typing "export", hitting enter when you land on it, 
or just down arrow to it. To clarify, you don't need to type the full word you 
want, just enough letters to find it. Again, this works in any menu in any 
application.l

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> On Apr 5, 2018, at 06:12, Leo Bado  > wrote:
> 
> hi everyone,
> 
> As I said in my introduction I'm totally new on macos systems.  Now what I 
> want to do is this, since I'm using pages I want to know how to export a 
> pages document to another format just like the support appple web site says 
> it might be done.
> 
> 
> here is what they say:
> 
> 
> Open the document, then choose File > Export To > [file format] (from the 
> File menu at the top of your screen).
> 
> 
> Specify export settings:
> 
> 
> 
> but happens to be I can't find the file  tab, when I'm in pages and I go to 
> the tool bar, I start  interacting with with it but when I move right or left 
> I only find the viiew, insert, table, chart, etc.
> but as I said I can't find the file tab or menu.
> I need help here please.
> I'm using latest version of macos high sierra and just downloaded pages few 
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Re: TextEdit and Windows

[Jonathan Cohn]

ET,

In notepad++ there is a item in the editing menu for changing line endings. It 
looks like the Latin / Win encoding used “Unix”  style line endings. Windows 
expects the line to end with both a carriage return and a new line character. 
Which is not terribly surprising since DEC Operating Systems in the 1980’s also 
used both characters, and the idea to use “/“ to indicate the start of an 
option shows up in TOPS-10, VMS and the Operating System for the PDP=11 if I 
remember correctly.

 
> On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:45 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
>   My thinking is that most people will probably use the default applications 
> so if I were to share a document created with TextEdit with a Windows user, 
> it will not display correctly.
> 
>   I did some digging and think the reason Notepad fails here is because it 
> does not support the Western encoding. It does support UTF-8 so I may 
> experiment with the two apps.
> 
>   I did install Notepad++ just to see what it's like.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> On 4/4/2018 1:10 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Ah,
>> I did not test with notepad, just with MS Word. I suggest you use Notepad++ 
>> my office installed a copy of it on my system, and it automatically checks 
>> line endings and display text correctly weather you use PC/Mac?Linux.
>> There is also a one line regular expression that was once posted to this 
>> list that changes \r to \mn or perhaps \r\n to do this. You could then used 
>> sed or vi to correct the line endings and even create a droplet or 
>> contextual menu to do this conversion.
>> My guess is that the regular expression would be:
>> s/.$/\r\n/
>>> On Apr 4, 2018, at 3:25 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan,
>>>   I will need to look at this again as it did not work for me. Maybe I am 
>>> not understanding the issue. I set the encoding to Western (DOS Latin 1) in 
>>> TextEdit preferences, Open and Save.
>>> 
>>>   In TextEdit the text I enter displaud properly. If I look at the document 
>>> with Windows Notepad all the text is on one line.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> 
>>> On 4/4/2018 10:29 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 Hello,
 I had to do just a little bit of work to test this out…
 1. In the save dialog choose the  encodings menu.
 2. Choose the last item to customize available encodings.
 3. Make sure "Western (DOS Latin 1)” is checked
 4. Close the customize encodings dialog.
 5. Select "Western (DOS Latin 1)” from the encoding menu. It will probably 
 already be selected.
 6. Now save your document.
 HTH,
 Jonathan Cohn
 .
> On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:12 AM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   When reading a plain text document in Windows that was created with 
> TextEdit on the Mac, the line returns are not respected. Isn't there a 
> setting in TextEdit that will correct this? Thanks.
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Re: Employment at Apple

[Devin Prater]

With Apple’s public-facing disability person being on the AFB board now, 
hopefully more jobs can be opened for the blind, at Apple Stores or otherwise.

> On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:54 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi karen,
> 
> Thanks or this,
> No not canada  but new zealand is still pretty close or at least part of the 
> empire.
> 
> I’ll be interested to hear what they are looking for if you can findout 
> anything more.
> and I’ll check with our rnzfb tomorrow about anythingn similar.
> 
> As well as applying to apple directly, the USA wold be a big change.
> 
> 
> Simonf
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 5/04/2018, at 10:41 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> I cannot speak to your home country.
>> However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here where 
>> apple is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for possible 
>> employment.  they are coordinating the effort with CNIB  the Canadian 
>> National Institute for the blind.  The invitation  includes a place to share 
>>  your resume and if selected states  apple will  be meeting with prospects 
>> later this month or the next.
>> So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is qualified 
>> first and sight impaired as an extension.
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,
>>> 
>>> I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team of 12 
>>> saff staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
>>> Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t need first 
>>> or second level IT support.
>>> 
>>> What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the blind 
>>> / visually impaired
>>> I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?
>>> 
>>> The reaso I ask is I’m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there and I 
>>> wasn’t sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso non USA citizans
>>> 
>>> Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be appreciated.\\\
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: The problem of no windows when an app starts

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Hi i believe you have to press fn control option and use the application 
chooser or window chooser like that when in that mode because just VO f 2 f 2 
won’t work on its own. 
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> On 5 Apr 2018, at 9:09 pm, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> Have you tried the windows chocer instead.
> /A
> 
>> 5 apr. 2018 kl. 11:56 skrev Eric Oyen :
>> 
>> Ok,
>> I recently acquired a new machine here and it has high Sierra on board. So, 
>> I am getting used to a bunch of new stuff here. However, what I didn’t 
>> expect which was common on my old OS X Lion system was the case of an 
>> application starting, but not producing any windows. In the current case, 
>> the application is Onyx (from titanium software). It appears to start 
>> normally, but produces no windows. Any attempt to interact with the program 
>> Bia keyboard is met with a bonk sound. It also appears to ignore the 
>> terminate program command (CMD Q). It does announce a question “would you 
>> like onyx to control your machine”, but no dialog is visible to voiceover. I 
>> have even tried using the application chooser to find it, but onyx is not 
>> visible there either. I have already sent a support request off to Titanium 
>> Software, but don’t expect a response in any reasonable time.
>> 
>> Anyone got any clues as to how I can work around this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Eric
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Re: Employment at Apple

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi karen,

Thanks or this,
 No not canada  but new zealand is still pretty close or at least part of the 
empire.

I’ll be interested to hear what they are looking for if you can findout 
anything more.
and I’ll check with our rnzfb tomorrow about anythingn similar.

 As well as applying to apple directly, the USA wold be a big change.


Simonf

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> On 5/04/2018, at 10:41 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
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> Hi Simon,
> I cannot speak to your home country.
> However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here where 
> apple is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for possible 
> employment.  they are coordinating the effort with CNIB  the Canadian 
> National Institute for the blind.  The invitation  includes a place to share  
> your resume and if selected states  apple will  be meeting with prospects 
> later this month or the next.
> So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is qualified 
> first and sight impaired as an extension.
> Kare
> 
> 
>> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,
>> 
>> I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team of 12 
>> saff staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
>> Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t need first 
>> or second level IT support.
>> 
>> What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the blind / 
>> visually impaired
>> I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?
>> 
>> The reaso I ask is I’m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there and I 
>> wasn’t sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso non USA citizans
>> 
>> Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be appreciated.\\\
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Simon F
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Re: The problem of no windows when an app starts

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Have you tried the windows chocer instead.
/A

> 5 apr. 2018 kl. 11:56 skrev Eric Oyen :
> 
> Ok,
> I recently acquired a new machine here and it has high Sierra on board. So, I 
> am getting used to a bunch of new stuff here. However, what I didn’t expect 
> which was common on my old OS X Lion system was the case of an application 
> starting, but not producing any windows. In the current case, the application 
> is Onyx (from titanium software). It appears to start normally, but produces 
> no windows. Any attempt to interact with the program Bia keyboard is met with 
> a bonk sound. It also appears to ignore the terminate program command (CMD 
> Q). It does announce a question “would you like onyx to control your 
> machine”, but no dialog is visible to voiceover. I have even tried using the 
> application chooser to find it, but onyx is not visible there either. I have 
> already sent a support request off to Titanium Software, but don’t expect a 
> response in any reasonable time.
> 
> Anyone got any clues as to how I can work around this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: TextEdit and Windows

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Notepad++ is one of the greatest editor out there in my opinion.
But you could try jarte if you like too.
I think it can do what you want.
/A

> 5 apr. 2018 kl. 04:45 skrev E.T. :
> 
> Jonathan,
>   My thinking is that most people will probably use the default applications 
> so if I were to share a document created with TextEdit with a Windows user, 
> it will not display correctly.
> 
>   I did some digging and think the reason Notepad fails here is because it 
> does not support the Western encoding. It does support UTF-8 so I may 
> experiment with the two apps.
> 
>   I did install Notepad++ just to see what it's like.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> 
> On 4/4/2018 1:10 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Ah,
>> I did not test with notepad, just with MS Word. I suggest you use Notepad++ 
>> my office installed a copy of it on my system, and it automatically checks 
>> line endings and display text correctly weather you use PC/Mac?Linux.
>> There is also a one line regular expression that was once posted to this 
>> list that changes \r to \mn or perhaps \r\n to do this. You could then used 
>> sed or vi to correct the line endings and even create a droplet or 
>> contextual menu to do this conversion.
>> My guess is that the regular expression would be:
>> s/.$/\r\n/
>>> On Apr 4, 2018, at 3:25 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan,
>>>   I will need to look at this again as it did not work for me. Maybe I am 
>>> not understanding the issue. I set the encoding to Western (DOS Latin 1) in 
>>> TextEdit preferences, Open and Save.
>>> 
>>>   In TextEdit the text I enter displaud properly. If I look at the document 
>>> with Windows Notepad all the text is on one line.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 4/4/2018 10:29 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
 Hello,
 I had to do just a little bit of work to test this out…
 1. In the save dialog choose the  encodings menu.
 2. Choose the last item to customize available encodings.
 3. Make sure "Western (DOS Latin 1)” is checked
 4. Close the customize encodings dialog.
 5. Select "Western (DOS Latin 1)” from the encoding menu. It will probably 
 already be selected.
 6. Now save your document.
 HTH,
 Jonathan Cohn
 .
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>   When reading a plain text document in Windows that was created with 
> TextEdit on the Mac, the line returns are not respected. Isn't there a 
> setting in TextEdit that will correct this? Thanks.
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Re: Employment at Apple

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi Simon,
 I cannot speak to your home country.
However just last week I got  an e-mail  about an opportunity here where 
apple is seeking blind and vision impaired individuals for possible 
employment.  they are coordinating the effort with CNIB  the Canadian 
National Institute for the blind.  The invitation  includes a place to 
share  your resume and if selected states  apple will  be meeting with 
prospects later this month or the next.
So, indeed clearly they  are willing to staff an individual who is 
qualified first and sight impaired as an extension.

 Kare


On Thu, 5 Apr 2018, Simon Fogarty wrote:


Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,

I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team of 12 saff 
staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t need first or 
second level IT support.

What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the blind / 
visually impaired
I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?

The reaso I ask is I’m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there and I wasn’t 
sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso non USA citizans

Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be appreciated.\\\

Cheers,


Simon F

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Re: Export a pages document to another format

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This works in all applications: press vo-m. In case you're not familiar, the VO 
keys are control and option together. You can choose to use caps lock as well, 
but that's a different post.

You would hold down control and option, press m, then let the keys go. 
VoiceOver should announce that you're on the Apple menu. Press right arrow to 
get to the file menu, which should be two presses over, then down arrow to open 
the menu. You can now start typing "export", hitting enter when you land on it, 
or just down arrow to it. To clarify, you don't need to type the full word you 
want, just enough letters to find it. Again, this works in any menu in any 
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> On Apr 5, 2018, at 06:12, Leo Bado  wrote:
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> hi everyone,
> 
> As I said in my introduction I'm totally new on macos systems.  Now what I 
> want to do is this, since I'm using pages I want to know how to export a 
> pages document to another format just like the support appple web site says 
> it might be done.
> 
> 
> here is what they say:
> 
> 
> Open the document, then choose File > Export To > [file format] (from the 
> File menu at the top of your screen).
> 
> 
> Specify export settings:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> but happens to be I can't find the file  tab, when I'm in pages and I go to 
> the tool bar, I start  interacting with with it but when I move right or left 
> I only find the viiew, insert, table, chart, etc.
> but as I said I can't find the file tab or menu.
> I need help here please.
> I'm using latest version of macos high sierra and just downloaded pages few 
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Re: Word Processing on the mac

[Devin Prater]

Well, yes. You’d have to go through the steps to get BRLTTY working, but yeah, 
then you’d have Braille in the terminal.

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> 
>> On Apr 4, 2018, at 09:58, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> You can also use Emacs, with Emacspeak, for writing. I’d recommend getting 
>> the latest Emacs from Homebrew, though. If anyone needs further details, I 
>> can give them.
> Is there a way to get braille working with Emacs under Mac OS? It’s fine 
> under Linux or Windows, but VoiceOver and the Mac terminal don’t interact 
> well.
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Export a pages document to another format

[Leo Bado]

hi everyone,

As I said in my introduction I'm totally new on macos systems. Now what 
I want to do is this, since I'm using pages I want to know how to export 
a pages document to another format just like the support appple web site 
says it might be done.



here is what they say:

1.


2.

   Open the document, then choose File > Export To > [/file format/]
   (from the File menu at the top of your screen).

   The File menu open with Export To selected, with its submenu showing
   export options for PDF, Word, Plain Text, Rich Text Format, EPUB,
   and Pages '09.

3.

   Specify export settings:




but happens to be I can't find the file  tab, when I'm in pages and I go to the 
tool bar, I start  interacting with with it but when I move right or left I 
only find the viiew, insert, table, chart, etc.
but as I said I can't find the file tab or menu.
I need help here please.
I'm using latest version of macos high sierra and just downloaded pages few 
days ago.

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Re: Word Processing on the mac

[Leo Bado]

yes, is me, Leo.

Thank you Jonathan, I think I'm going to make a new thread asking and 
specifying my question.




Leo Bado

El 4/4/2018 a las 16:04, Jonathan Cohn escribió:

Hello Leo,

I believe you are the one who just introduced yourself?

The Macintosh has several commands in the file menu, but it does get a 
little confusing with Apple applications because documents are often 
automatically saved every few minutes or so by default.


There should be an export option in the file menu to save as a 
Microsoft Word document. Currently I am working on an older system and 
I also changed my file menu so that the that it is more like older 
Macintoshes and other systems with a Save / Save As menu items. Also 
note that in 97 percent of Macintosh applications the keystrokes are 
standardized for Save, Save As, Find, Cut, Copy, Paste undo, redo.


So these keystrokes should work in your applications that are not Web 
based applications. (run in Safari).


Enjoy!

Jonathan Cohn

On Apr 4, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Leo Bado > wrote:


hi, this topic interests me,

I really want to know how to use pages and for this matter I want to 
create a document and then export it to .doc but I can’t find the 
file tab to do this, most likely I’m going on the wrong way and need 
some help here.



Leo Bado
El 4/4/2018 a las 06:36, Caitlyn Furness escribió:

Hi,
I use pages, i text express, and scrivener..

Cait



On Apr 4, 2018, at 7:32 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:

Hello folks,
What accessible word processors do you recommend for the mac?  This is 
particularly for writing papers with paragraph styles, headings, footnotes, 
etc.  Trying to find an accessible straightforward easy to use word processor.  
Thanks,
Brian

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The problem of no windows when an app starts

[Eric Oyen]

Ok,
I recently acquired a new machine here and it has high Sierra on board. So, I 
am getting used to a bunch of new stuff here. However, what I didn’t expect 
which was common on my old OS X Lion system was the case of an application 
starting, but not producing any windows. In the current case, the application 
is Onyx (from titanium software). It appears to start normally, but produces no 
windows. Any attempt to interact with the program Bia keyboard is met with a 
bonk sound. It also appears to ignore the terminate program command (CMD Q). It 
does announce a question “would you like onyx to control your machine”, but no 
dialog is visible to voiceover. I have even tried using the application chooser 
to find it, but onyx is not visible there either. I have already sent a support 
request off to Titanium Software, but don’t expect a response in any reasonable 
time.

Anyone got any clues as to how I can work around this?

Thanks,

Eric

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Employment at Apple

[Simon Fogarty]

 Hi Listers of the Mac user kind and UA bsed,

I’m in the processof a restructure at work that will end in my team of 12 saff 
staff being both disestablished and somewhat unemployed...
Great 10of setvice to the oganisatyion now they think they don’t need first or 
second level IT support.

What I’d like to know is what is aples reaction to employment of the blind / 
visually impaired 
I know they say they are Equal opotunity employers but is it true?

The reaso I ask is I’m lookin to apply ofr a coupleof roles there and I wasn’t 
sure of their deal with  people like mself and aalso non USA citizans 

Any info from anyone that has knowlede of this would be appreciated.\\\

Cheers,


Simon F

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