Re: Message list in Apple Mail on Bigsur

2021-05-03 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn 
Are you using quicknav orVO arrow keys? If so,thentry using arrow keys with no 
modification.
Standard table actions with VO arrow keys is to go to the next column first row 
when you get to the end of a specific column.
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Re: Message list in Apple Mail on Bigsur

2021-05-03 Thread Brad Snyder 
On my 2019 MacBook Pro 13, running macOS 11.3 big Sur, I am using Column 
layout, and I do not experience the issue you describe.
You might consider changing to Column Layout, and see if this works better for 
you. 

- Brad -


On May 3, 2021, at 12:48, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

Hello,
I am running Bigsur 11.3 on my Intel iMac. 
Is there any way to stop the items in the message list in Apple Mail from 
wrapping round as I arrow down the list? Failing that is there a way to go to 
the first and last items in this list?
Most (but not all) of my mail boxes are sorted by date with the youngest 
message on top.I often  want to read the most recent Emails in a particular 
Mail box. I recall that in earlier Mac/OS releases I could start at the most 
recent item in the list of messages and then arrow down to see the other 
messages until I got to the oldest message. Further arrowing down did nothing. 
Now when I get to the oldest message and arrow down I go back to the youngest 
message which I find very annoying.
Many thanks for any tips.
Best … Paul Hopewell

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Message list in Apple Mail on Bigsur

2021-05-03 Thread Paul Hopewell 
Hello,
I am running Bigsur 11.3 on my Intel iMac. 
Is there any way to stop the items in the message list in Apple Mail from 
wrapping round as I arrow down the list? Failing that is there a way to go to 
the first and last items in this list?
Most (but not all) of my mail boxes are sorted by date with the youngest 
message on top.I often  want to read the most recent Emails in a particular 
Mail box. I recall that in earlier Mac/OS releases I could start at the most 
recent item in the list of messages and then arrow down to see the other 
messages until I got to the oldest message. Further arrowing down did nothing. 
Now when I get to the oldest message and arrow down I go back to the youngest 
message which I find very annoying.
Many thanks for any tips.
Best … Paul Hopewell

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Re: PDF reader for the Mac accessible with voiceover

2021-05-03 Thread dan d. 


Accorrding to wiki it can be read by adobe8 or later.  It might then also allow 
saving in another format.  Or using cmd-a and cmd-c it will be
copied to the pasteboard and made a text file from there.

On Sun, 2 May 2021, Lorie McCloud wrote:

> do you know what a prc document is? I have an ebook in that format and I 
> don't know what to do with it.
>
> thanks.
> Lorie
>
> > On May 2, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> >
> > It is my understanding that a pub is essentially just a set of HTML / CSS 
> > documents that have been encapsulated as a zip file with an pub extension. 
> > Except for those cases where the pub is protected, you should be able to 
> > rename the file by replace pub with zip and then  uncompressing it. Unlike 
> > web pages, instead of a index.html there will probably be a SMIL file that 
> > will be used to define the order and also to synchronize audio and text 
> > files.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Jonathan Cohn
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 1, 2021, at 22:44, Lorie McCloud  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Are you saying that robobraille will convert a pdf to epub or that you can 
> >> convert epub to other formats too?
> >>
> >> thanks.
> >> Lorie
> >>
> >>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Karen Lewellen  >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi  Helga,
> >>> While I cannot suggest a specific  pdf reader for the mac that lets you 
> >>> read..why does preview not do this?, I can suggest a way to convert the 
> >>> pdf files  into other formats.
> >>> robobraille,
> >>> www.robobraille.org 
> >>> Allows you to convert pdf files into several  alternatives,  some epub 
> >>> files as well, using an e-mail convert tool.
> >>> Hopefully that might provide an extra door.
> >>> Kare
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021, Herbie Allen wrote:
> >>>
>  I don???t think it will let you edit, but try using Chrome as your PDF 
>  reader. It should let you let you select text and all that.
> 
> > On Apr 30, 2021, at 02:53, Helga Schreiber 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone. Hope you guys are doing well. Can you guys recommend me a 
> > good  PDF reader app for the Mac  that is accessible with VoiceOver, 
> > which will  allow  me to read PDF documents and edit text within the 
> > documents? Just wondering.  I would like to read   line by line, word 
> > by word, sentence by sentence,  and paragraph by paragraph and copy and 
> > paste   content. with this app. I understand that  the Preview app  is 
> > the default app  of the Mac to read PDF documents, but when I???m  
> > trying to read line by line or word by word,  it does not allow me to 
> > do so. Did Preview app on the Mac improve with the Bigsur  Mac software 
> > update? I know some apps are not free, but any suggestion will be 
> > really  appreciate it. I will be taking a Princeton Review LSAT prep 
> > course this summer on June,  and the textbooks are in PDF format. Look 
> > forward to hear from you soon. Thanks so much!
> >
> > Helga Schreiber
> > Email Address: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com
> > Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max
> >
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Re: Another free ClipBoard manager

2021-05-03 Thread Jürgen Fleger 
Hi,
any ideas whether Copied became more accessible on Macs? The advantage: Copied 
works great on iOS. And since Universal Clipboard more or less works like a 
lottery on my devices at least it would be cool to have something similar that 
works reliably.
All the best 
Jürgen

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 02.05.2021 um 22:58 schrieb 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Dear List,
> Here is another free accessible clipboard manager.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cloudclip-manager/id563362017?mt=12
> It works well with Big Sur. I used this app back in 2013, but for some 
> reason, I stoped using it. So I decided to give it another try and was very 
> surprised at how well it works.
> Thanks,
> Rob
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