Re: Activator, and iPhone transition to USBC

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I think I wait for a wile then.
Bless.
/A

> 11 dec. 2023 kl. 16:26 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, I wrote to Helptech with Angie’s question.  Unfortunately, the response I 
> received was not what I had hoped for.  Here it is.
> 
> “Thank you for your interest in our Activator. We are aware that the new 
> iPhone generation will be equipped with USB-C. That is why we are already 
> working on a new docking station. This will be available in the first quarter 
> of 2024, i.e. by the end of March at the latest. We will announce the cost of 
> this before Christmas. Unfortunately, I don't know it right now. 
> However, it is also possible (from the new firmware version) to use the USB-C 
> interface directly on the left-hand side of the device instead of a docking 
> station. This has the disadvantages that the Activator and the iPhone are not 
> charged during operation and you cannot use a USB stick (on the docking 
> station).
> The firmware of our Braille displays is constantly updated and adapted to the 
> latest technology as far as possible.”
> 
> So, it sounds like anyone who purchases now will have to shell out more money 
> for a new dock, once they upgrade to a newer iPhone.  I think that rules me 
> out.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Activator, and iPhone transition to USBC

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Jason,

I would imagine that that is true.  There’ll still be people with lightning 
iPhones for a long time to come.  And Angie’s point is a good one.  I always do 
keep an old phone in the mix, first, to have a backup, and Second, to use as a 
music player when I want that functionality to be separate from my phone.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 11, 2023, at 1:56 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> 
> 
> On 11/12/23 12:02, 'Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I’ve just had a thought though: if one does buy the new docking station 
>> and keeps an older iPhone as well, presumably one could chop and change 
>> between the two docks, making it a more flexible device.
> Yes, I expect this to be possible. You might also have the option of deciding 
> which dock to purchase when buying a display.
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Re: Activator, and iPhone transition to USBC

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

On 11/12/23 12:02, 'Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I’ve just had a thought though: if one does buy the new docking station
and keeps an older iPhone as well, presumably one could chop and change
between the two docks, making it a more flexible device.
Yes, I expect this to be possible. You might also have the option of 
deciding which dock to purchase when buying a display.


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Re: Activator, and iPhone transition to USBC

['Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries]

If I were going to buy one I’d wait at least until the price of the new docking 
station was announced. I’ve just had a thought though: if one does buy the new 
docking station and keeps an older iPhone as well, presumably one could chop 
and change between the two docks, making it a more flexible device.

I agree re the bugs which might occur  etc and the fact that things aren’t 
always released on time.

All the best
Angie

> On 11 Dec 2023, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh, I’m not buying *anything until all this dust settles.  I’m eligible for a 
> phone upgrade in October, so I’d be looking at buying the new doc approx nine 
> months after purchasing the unit.  I suppose if it comes in at forty or fifty 
> dollars I could live with that, but I can’t imagine that the price will be 
> that low.  Like you, I’m glad they’re working on it, and I get that they, and 
> the dealers are in a really tough position.  But, as we all know, new 
> products are not always released on Schedule, and there are frequently bugs 
> to be worked out when they are released.  Also, on principle, I have issues 
> with buying a brand new product, and then having to pay to upgrade the 
> hardware within less than a year of purchase.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Dec 11, 2023, at 9:45 AM, 'Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m glad to hear they’re working on it. If you can, wait until they’ve done 
>> it before shelling out any money or at least wait until they announce the 
>> price; the new docking station may not cost too much and may be something 
>> you can purchase later. 
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>> On 11 Dec 2023, at 15:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> So, I wrote to Helptech with Angie’s question.  Unfortunately, the response 
>>> I received was not what I had hoped for.  Here it is.
>>> 
>>> “Thank you for your interest in our Activator. We are aware that the new 
>>> iPhone generation will be equipped with USB-C. That is why we are already 
>>> working on a new docking station. This will be available in the first 
>>> quarter of 2024, i.e. by the end of March at the latest. We will announce 
>>> the cost of this before Christmas. Unfortunately, I don't know it right 
>>> now. 
>>> However, it is also possible (from the new firmware version) to use the 
>>> USB-C interface directly on the left-hand side of the device instead of a 
>>> docking station. This has the disadvantages that the Activator and the 
>>> iPhone are not charged during operation and you cannot use a USB stick (on 
>>> the docking station).
>>> The firmware of our Braille displays is constantly updated and adapted to 
>>> the latest technology as far as possible.”
>>> 
>>> So, it sounds like anyone who purchases now will have to shell out more 
>>> money for a new dock, once they upgrade to a newer iPhone.  I think that 
>>> rules me out.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Activator, and iPhone transition to USBC

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Oh, I’m not buying *anything until all this dust settles.  I’m eligible for a 
phone upgrade in October, so I’d be looking at buying the new doc approx nine 
months after purchasing the unit.  I suppose if it comes in at forty or fifty 
dollars I could live with that, but I can’t imagine that the price will be that 
low.  Like you, I’m glad they’re working on it, and I get that they, and the 
dealers are in a really tough position.  But, as we all know, new products are 
not always released on Schedule, and there are frequently bugs to be worked out 
when they are released.  Also, on principle, I have issues with buying a brand 
new product, and then having to pay to upgrade the hardware within less than a 
year of purchase.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 11, 2023, at 9:45 AM, 'Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m glad to hear they’re working on it. If you can, wait until they’ve done 
> it before shelling out any money or at least wait until they announce the 
> price; the new docking station may not cost too much and may be something you 
> can purchase later. 
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
>> On 11 Dec 2023, at 15:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So, I wrote to Helptech with Angie’s question.  Unfortunately, the response 
>> I received was not what I had hoped for.  Here it is.
>> 
>> “Thank you for your interest in our Activator. We are aware that the new 
>> iPhone generation will be equipped with USB-C. That is why we are already 
>> working on a new docking station. This will be available in the first 
>> quarter of 2024, i.e. by the end of March at the latest. We will announce 
>> the cost of this before Christmas. Unfortunately, I don't know it right now. 
>> However, it is also possible (from the new firmware version) to use the 
>> USB-C interface directly on the left-hand side of the device instead of a 
>> docking station. This has the disadvantages that the Activator and the 
>> iPhone are not charged during operation and you cannot use a USB stick (on 
>> the docking station).
>> The firmware of our Braille displays is constantly updated and adapted to 
>> the latest technology as far as possible.”
>> 
>> So, it sounds like anyone who purchases now will have to shell out more 
>> money for a new dock, once they upgrade to a newer iPhone.  I think that 
>> rules me out.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone have any experience with the activator braille display

['Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries]

Unfortunately I can’t see your email address in the headers but I’ll give you 
mine; it is: 
an...@comproom.co.uk 

All the best
Angie

> On 9 Dec 2023, at 14:16, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Angie,
> 
> Could you write me off-list?
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2023, at 9:23 AM, 'Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I may be a bit over cautious but the Activator connects to the iPhone by 
>> lightning and newer iPhones will be USB c, so my question would be, if I 
>> were to buy one: will we be able to connect it using USB C? It may be 
>> possible to get an adaptor, but for that much money I’d really want to be 
>> sure. I too recommend hearing the podcast mentioned.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>> On 8 Dec 2023, at 14:47, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/12/23 18:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Just wondered if anyone has had a chance to use the Activator braille 
 display from Helptech--formerly HandyTech?
>>> No, but I've used one of their older displays briefly in a technology 
>>> demonstration. The finger detection mechanism worked reliably for 
>>> automatically panning the display. However, it needed to be adjusted to its 
>>> most sensitive setting, presumably because I touched the cells quite 
>>> lightly while reading.
>>> 
>>> Note also that Jonathan Mosen released a podcast last year in which he 
>>> interviewed HelpTech representatives about the Activator. It might be worth 
>>> searching for the recording or the transcript.
>>> 
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Re: Activator, and iPhone transition to USBC

['Angie Nutt' via MacVisionaries]

I’m glad to hear they’re working on it. If you can, wait until they’ve done it 
before shelling out any money or at least wait until they announce the price; 
the new docking station may not cost too much and may be something you can 
purchase later. 

All the best
Angie

> On 11 Dec 2023, at 15:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, I wrote to Helptech with Angie’s question.  Unfortunately, the response I 
> received was not what I had hoped for.  Here it is.
> 
> “Thank you for your interest in our Activator. We are aware that the new 
> iPhone generation will be equipped with USB-C. That is why we are already 
> working on a new docking station. This will be available in the first quarter 
> of 2024, i.e. by the end of March at the latest. We will announce the cost of 
> this before Christmas. Unfortunately, I don't know it right now. 
> However, it is also possible (from the new firmware version) to use the USB-C 
> interface directly on the left-hand side of the device instead of a docking 
> station. This has the disadvantages that the Activator and the iPhone are not 
> charged during operation and you cannot use a USB stick (on the docking 
> station).
> The firmware of our Braille displays is constantly updated and adapted to the 
> latest technology as far as possible.”
> 
> So, it sounds like anyone who purchases now will have to shell out more money 
> for a new dock, once they upgrade to a newer iPhone.  I think that rules me 
> out.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Activator, and iPhone transition to USBC

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

So, I wrote to Helptech with Angie’s question.  Unfortunately, the response I 
received was not what I had hoped for.  Here it is.

“Thank you for your interest in our Activator. We are aware that the new iPhone 
generation will be equipped with USB-C. That is why we are already working on a 
new docking station. This will be available in the first quarter of 2024, i.e. 
by the end of March at the latest. We will announce the cost of this before 
Christmas. Unfortunately, I don't know it right now. 
However, it is also possible (from the new firmware version) to use the USB-C 
interface directly on the left-hand side of the device instead of a docking 
station. This has the disadvantages that the Activator and the iPhone are not 
charged during operation and you cannot use a USB stick (on the docking 
station).
The firmware of our Braille displays is constantly updated and adapted to the 
latest technology as far as possible.”

So, it sounds like anyone who purchases now will have to shell out more money 
for a new dock, once they upgrade to a newer iPhone.  I think that rules me out.
Cheers,
Donna

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