Re: Voiceover Echoing Numbers

2023-12-20 Thread Brad Snyder
Interesting.
I have mine set to play a tone, when encountering a link or attachment.

- Brad -



On Dec 20, 2023, at 14:04, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Mystery is solved. Solution is to go to Accessibility, Voiceover, Verbosity, 
Links.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
-Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
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On 12/14/2023 9:14 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
> That is very strange.
> Never had anything like that happen when running iOS 16.
> All my devices have been updated to iOS 17, so I don't have anything that I 
> could test it on.
> - Brad -
> On Dec 14, 2023, at 21:57, E.T.  wrote:
>    It must be a bug in iOS 16. One of these days I will get a new iPhone. 
> Does not matter who the sender is, it happens will Apple too. My iPad running 
> iPadOS 17 is fine.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> On 12/14/2023 7:13 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> OK, so it is a capital letter, and it is part of a link,
>> I really don’t know what to tell you.
>> Do you know the sender of the text, or is it from an unknown sender.
>> If it is from an unknown sender, then I would consider it suspicious, and 
>> delete it and move on.
>> - Brad -
>> On Dec 14, 2023, at 20:54, E.T.  wrote:
>>   That is what I normally do to make sure I hear the numbers right. If I 
>> pause briefly after any digit, that is when I get the cap l i n k.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>> -Helen Keller
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> On 12/14/2023 6:50 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>>> Have you gone through character by character to see what is actually there. 
>>> Perhaps the numbers are spelled out rather than numerals.
>>> - Brad -
>>> On Dec 14, 2023, at 20:02, E.T.  wrote:
>>>    When I encounter such, Voiceover announces  those correctly as "link". 
>>> In this situation, Voiceover is spelling the word, not speaking it as a 
>>> word.
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>>> -Helen Keller
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> On 12/14/2023 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
 It's hard to say because I don't know the context in which you received 
 the text message.
 I'm inclined to say that your device thinks the six digit code is 
 something like a phone number. Phone numbers also show up as links.
 - Brad -
 On Dec 14, 2023, at 18:59, E.T.  wrote:
 Brad,
   I wonder what that "cap l i n k" is. How about this?! "Link". But its 
 sure not a link, its a typical 6 digit verification code. This in a text I 
 received. What do you think?
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
 My e-Mail:
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 On 11/29/2023 9:51 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
> Try setting Phonetic Feedback to Off.
> This should give you just letters.
> - Brad -
> On Nov 29, 2023, at 23:25, E.T.  wrote:
>   Thanks. That did it. In iOS 16 3 choices. Off, characters and 
> phonetics, or phonetics. Strange that there is no characters alone.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> On 11/29/2023 8:33 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> On an iPhone running iOS 17.x, phonetic feedback can be toggled on/off 
>> by going to:
>> Settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Typing > Phonetic Feedback.
>> HTH.
>> - Brad -
>> On Nov 29, 2023, at 21:15, Gabe Griffith  
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> It sounds like it's probably giving the phonetic reading of the 
>> characters. For example, it's probably saying l lima. I'm not sure if 
>> there is a way to turn off that phonetic announcing of the characters 
>> but can do some checking and get back to you.
>> Hopefully this at least helps to explain what's happening.
>> Gabe
>> Gabe Griffith
>> President, California Council of the Blind
>> (925)222-5762
>> gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org
>>> On Nov 29, 2023, at 9:34 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>    To explain, in iOS16, when I put a text message in character mode 
>>> to read numbers, Voiceover will announce "cap L something". I can't 
>>> understand what is announced after cap L. Can I turn this off so 
>>> reading numbers is less confusing? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
>>> -Helen Keller
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
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Re: Voiceover Echoing Numbers

2023-12-20 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   Mystery is solved. Solution is to go to Accessibility, Voiceover, 
Verbosity, Links.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
 -Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/14/2023 9:14 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

That is very strange.
Never had anything like that happen when running iOS 16.
All my devices have been updated to iOS 17, so I don't have anything that I 
could test it on.

- Brad -

On Dec 14, 2023, at 21:57, E.T.  wrote:

   It must be a bug in iOS 16. One of these days I will get a new iPhone. Does 
not matter who the sender is, it happens will Apple too. My iPad running iPadOS 
17 is fine.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
-Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/14/2023 7:13 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

OK, so it is a capital letter, and it is part of a link,
I really don’t know what to tell you.
Do you know the sender of the text, or is it from an unknown sender.
If it is from an unknown sender, then I would consider it suspicious, and 
delete it and move on.
- Brad -
On Dec 14, 2023, at 20:54, E.T.  wrote:
   That is what I normally do to make sure I hear the numbers right. If I pause 
briefly after any digit, that is when I get the cap l i n k.
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
-Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 12/14/2023 6:50 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Have you gone through character by character to see what is actually there. 
Perhaps the numbers are spelled out rather than numerals.
- Brad -
On Dec 14, 2023, at 20:02, E.T.  wrote:
   When I encounter such, Voiceover announces  those correctly as "link". In 
this situation, Voiceover is spelling the word, not speaking it as a word.
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
-Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 12/14/2023 5:45 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

It's hard to say because I don't know the context in which you received the 
text message.
I'm inclined to say that your device thinks the six digit code is something 
like a phone number. Phone numbers also show up as links.
- Brad -
On Dec 14, 2023, at 18:59, E.T.  wrote:
Brad,
   I wonder what that "cap l i n k" is. How about this?! "Link". But its sure 
not a link, its a typical 6 digit verification code. This in a text I received. What do you think?
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
-Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 11/29/2023 9:51 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

Try setting Phonetic Feedback to Off.
This should give you just letters.
- Brad -
On Nov 29, 2023, at 23:25, E.T.  wrote:
   Thanks. That did it. In iOS 16 3 choices. Off, characters and phonetics, or 
phonetics. Strange that there is no characters alone.
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
-Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 11/29/2023 8:33 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

On an iPhone running iOS 17.x, phonetic feedback can be toggled on/off by going 
to:
Settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Typing > Phonetic Feedback.
HTH.
- Brad -
On Nov 29, 2023, at 21:15, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
Hi,
It sounds like it's probably giving the phonetic reading of the characters. For 
example, it's probably saying l lima. I'm not sure if there is a way to turn 
off that phonetic announcing of the characters but can do some checking and get 
back to you.
Hopefully this at least helps to explain what's happening.
Gabe
Gabe Griffith
President, California Council of the Blind
(925)222-5762
gabe.griff...@ccbnet.org

On Nov 29, 2023, at 9:34 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   To explain, in iOS16, when I put a text message in character mode to read numbers, 
Voiceover will announce "cap L something". I can't understand what is announced 
after cap L. Can I turn this off so reading numbers is less confusing? Thanks.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
-Helen Keller
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Firefox and Bookmarks

2023-12-20 Thread Maurice A. Mines
Hi  Firefox on  my  M2 seems  to be working quite well. In  som  cases it  
works better then Safari. HTH Maurice Mines.

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> On Dec 20, 2023, at 16:54, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Not really as I use both browsers.
> Firefox isn’t really good at handling some parts of the web with VoiceOver.
> /A
> 
>> On 20 Dec 2023, at 03:54, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>>  For those using Firefox on the Mac, are you using an add-on to sync 
>> bookmarks from Safari? Thanks.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Firefox and Bookmarks

2023-12-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Not really as I use both browsers.
Firefox isn’t really good at handling some parts of the web with VoiceOver.
/A

> On 20 Dec 2023, at 03:54, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
>   For those using Firefox on the Mac, are you using an add-on to sync 
> bookmarks from Safari? Thanks.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much."
> -Helen Keller
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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