ok this explains it for me; thanks; I have wondered why cmd v does not actually
move the file or folder; now I know. Thanks again.
> On Feb 28, 2020, at 10:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If you mean that you are moving items from the Documents folder to your
>
go to specific locations, but I'm
>> not aware of being able to reassign the InBox.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>>
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>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
Thanks for this link. Great to know this.
Patrick
> On Feb 18, 2020, at 11:53 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>
> Yes you can.
>
> I use an application called YouTube to MP3 Converter, from Media Human. The
> basic version is free and is available for both MacOS and Windows.
> I have used it to
ater...
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
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> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Feb 20, 2020, at 13:51, Patrick Ford <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, again,
> In toggling between tw
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>
> On Feb 20, 2020, at 13:46, Patrick Ford <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> With OS 15 Catalina, I am in the LCD section o
Hi it’s option plus right arrow for next word and option left for previous
Patrick
> On Feb 20, 2020, at 3:27 PM, John Skyner wrote:
>
>Hi all
>
> Jaws has a keystroke control right or left arrow to read a document word by
> word, does the mac have a similar keystroke.
>
Hi, again,
In toggling between two programs, for instance, text edit and music, I use tab
plus command.
But often when toggling from one or the other, I am brought to the finder or
desktop. So I go to the doc to return to the program in question.
Am I doing this correctly with tab and command?
Hi,
With OS 15 Catalina, I am in the LCD section of iTunes, and after entering the
the area where the time is displayed in percentages, I use VO right arrow to
fast forward. But often another track begins. Is there another way of ff with
an audio track?
Thanks.
Patrick
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on without going through
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>> On 20 Feb 2020, at 20:51, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Hi, again,
>> In toggling between two programs, for instance, text edit and music, I use
>> tab plus command.
>> But often
CBS All Access does not have any audio description. In all their content there
is no AD available.
Too bad, right?
Patrick
> On Feb 22, 2020, at 9:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>
> Has anyone had success finding how to access audio description in the CBS all
> axis app on either your iPhone or
Peg Jolene
>
>
>> On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> CBS All Access does not have any audio description. In all their content
>> there is no AD available.
>> Too bad, right?
>> Patrick
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2020, at 9:57
Hi,
THe default inbox in apple mail for google was the google inbox. But now,
somehow, all new mail arrives in the all mail box.
How do I get the google mail to use the google inbox once again?
Thanks.
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> On Feb 18, 2020, at 08:19, Patrick Ford <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> THe default inbox in apple mail for google was the google inbox
Hi,
VO will announce roman numerals up to LXXV. But after this, vo just pronounces
the letters. Is this normal? Thanks. Just curious.
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Hi,
As far as I can tell, sharing playlists is done this way: go into apple music
under the For You section, then my account, then a search field to add a
friend’s username.
But this does not seem to work for me.
And now, I am only getting the opportunity to sign into face book. This I
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>
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> On Mar 12, 2020, at 15:49, Patrick Ford <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> ok great the last part of your inst
Hi,
On my mac book air, using safari, and using the mobile URL for face book, I
cannot get the newsfeed link to function.
I click on it but nothing happens. When I click on other links on this site
they do work.
Is it just that safari will not function with face book?
Thanks.
patrick
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>
>Hey,
>I'm sure many people have suggested this already but you're better going
> to Facebook basic, it's better than the mobile version.
>
>> On 11 Apr 2020, at 11:07 pm, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
re better going to
> Facebook basic, it's better than the mobile version.
>
>> On 11 Apr 2020, at 11:07 pm, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> On my mac book air, using safari, and using the mobile URL for face book, I
>> cannot get the newsfeed link to f
're better going to
>> Facebook basic, it's better than the mobile version.
>>
>>> On 11 Apr 2020, at 11:07 pm, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> On my mac book air, using safari, and using the mobile URL for face book,
>>> I
il me at maria.reyes1...@gmail.com
> with your WhatsApp info and I will add you.
>
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> ok great thank you.
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
>>> mailto:mac
Hi, I am using Samantha and the control key does not work for silencing. I
thought it was because I had updated to catalina. it used to work just fine but
after catalina control key never worked again.
patrick
> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Pete De Vasto wrote:
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> Petrus,
>
> Out of
Hi,
In Mac OS Catalina, how are multiple files selected at once for copying?
Thanks.
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> perform. If the files are sequential, you can simply just hold down shift
> and arrow through to select.
>
> HTH.
>
> Later…
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
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>
Herbie has a good idea; but what about using the shift plus the down arrow key
…what makes it difficult for you is that you have to skip files; but shift plus
the down arrow will help somewhat.
Patrick
> On Sep 12, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Ramy Moustafa Saber
> wrote:
>
> Ok, even can i select
Great info, thanks.
> On Sep 12, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>
> here's how to select multiple files in a folder that aren't next to each
> other.
> 1. open the folder where the files are and interact.
> 2. vo-arrow down until you hit the first file you want to include and press
>
. Thanks again.
> On Oct 13, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>
> Just to clarify, when going to system preferences, is your speaker already
> on? Also, when you are looking, you should try both VO left Aero and VO right.
>
>> On Oct 13, 2020, at 09:05, Patrick F
that was it, I followed this and it worked. thanks.
> On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>
> Hmmm, one thing I would try is unpairing and repairing the speaker.
>
>> On Oct 13, 2020, at 09:57, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have done this b
wow you got that far? I could not even fill in my email etc ….
> On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:50 PM, Shirley Healy wrote:
>
> does the kindle app work with the new catalina operating system?
> I downloaded it and could get in to it but when i clicked on books i only saw
> the 9 latest items listed.
Hi,
In system preferences In the out area of sound, I find only my internal
speakers listed. When I bluetooth my mac book air over to a speaker, music does
not play - only voice over.
How do I get my entire system to come through the bluetooth speaker? Thank you.
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> On Jun 16, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Can i download the film i haave purchased to my Ipad or do i have to
Hi,
As far as my experience has taken me, using catalina in the mac book air, when
I do a search in the music app, I enter the search field by interacting, then I
type the artist’s name, or the album or song title, then I stop interacting
with the search field and I highlight where i want my
> - Brad -
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2020, at 18:02, Patrick Ford <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> In using 2 factor verification, I receive the code on my iPad to enter into
> my mac book air, os catalina, but I cannot figure out how to enter the code.
cond place,
> and so forth.
> All you have to do is type in the 6-digit code, and the digits are entered
> into the appropriate space. You do not need to use arrow keys, the focus
> will move to the correct space as you type in the code number.
>
> - Brad -
>
&g
ns, the computer
> or Apple TV or iPad or iPhone should automatically submit the number without
> you having to press the verify.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 05:14, Patrick Ford > <mailto:xplorer1...@gm
an one attempt. also trying more than
> once, in some cases, triggers a security factor.
> Speaking personally? call apple support.
> If its a bug they should know, if its a time issue you should be supported.
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, Patrick Ford wro
that. Once you have numbers in all 6 positions, the
>> computer or Apple TV or iPad or iPhone should automatically submit the
>> number without you having to press the verify.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>
>>
>>&g
ed.
> I have done this procedure several times, and have found the process to be
> very simple and VoiceOver accessible.
>
> Perhaps you should contact Apple Accessibility for help.
>
> - Brad -
>
>
> On Nov 24, 2020, at 04:14, Patrick Ford <mailto:xplorer1...@g
Hi,
In using 2 factor verification, I receive the code on my iPad to enter into my
mac book air, os catalina, but I cannot figure out how to enter the code. There
is an edit field with numbers 1 through 6, but the code often comes with 9 or
0. How do I add this code?
Thanks.
Patrick
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Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by Apple that
are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover a wide variety of
genres. I have also noticed that when you select lossless files in your
preferences all the music which has not been downloaded will play
he word spatial audio, that’s
> good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the playlist or an
> additional tag?
>
> Ronald
>
>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>> Hi, I have noticed
Hi,
In my Home area of my mac os big sur, I found a strange folder titled 'sites.'
It cannot be sent to the trash or deleted. Does anyone know what this is or how
to be rid of it? Thanks.
Patrick
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I’ve never used an iPhone and was hoping out of the box I could use Serri to
turn on voice over and begin set up. But when I press the home key, I do not
get any reply.
How do I turn on voice over right out of the box to begin set up?
Thanks.
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>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Patrick Ford wrote:
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>> Hi, thanks for replying. Yeah I hold it down but I do not get anything - no
>> sound or anything - the only sound I get is when I plug
Hi, I find the functions seem the same as far as searching, and downloading and
playlists, but the layout is a bit different as far as vo and arrowing.
Patrick
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>
>> Kristeen
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
>>
>> I agree. The one big difference that I can recall is you cannot rely on VO J
>> but otherwise, it’s not that different.
>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:39, Patrick Ford
you can also use menu extras and get to bluetooth in this quicker way -
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> How do I pair something to my Mac using bluetooth?
>
> thanks.
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Hi,
On my mac book air 2020 with big sur, how do I get voice over to start at start
up?
Thanks.
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>> There is a checkbox to have Voiceover on at start up.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 11:47 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> On my mac book air 2020 with big sur, how do I get voi
ers and groups.
>
> Then, select the login options group and accessibility options. You will
> probably need to unlock this screen.
>
> There is a checkbox to have Voiceover on at start up.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 11:47 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>
gt;>
>> Then, select the login options group and accessibility options. You will
>> probably need to unlock this screen.
>>
>> There is a checkbox to have Voiceover on at start up.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 11:47 AM,
bie Allen wrote:
>
> Turn file Valt back on and follow my instructions from the previous email.
>
>
>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 15:27, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Help! Ok I found file vault and turned it off - now I cannot turn on
>> automatic log in because file v
gt;
>> There is a checkbox to have Voiceover on at start up.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 11:47 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> On my mac book air 2020 with big sur, how do I get voi
Hi,
As I type in Pages on my iPad Air, I am now hearing word echo which I had not
previously heard.
I have looked in settings under accessibility and under keyboards to correct
this but cannot find it.
Does anyone know how to change the word echo?
Thanks.
Patrick
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20, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>
> ok. well I looked there so maybe they didn't download like they were supposed
> to.
>
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> they should be in the same place which I think is called under music, t
d so it thinks they're in there somewhere. I looked in
> "downloads" in iTunes media but nothing's there.
>
>> On Mar 21, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> There is something called 'user library' and they could have landed there -
>> if I find where this
and paste them somewhere
> else. that way they'll still be in there. I don't know how to get in there
> though. is there a place where you can copy this path for the computer to go
> there? I don't know how to do that.
>
>> On Mar 21, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Patrick Ford > <mai
d just found a couple
> of folders.
>
>> On Mar 21, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Patrick Ford > <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> ok you won't believe this but this is where your podcasts are stored:
>> ~/Library/Group Containers/243LU875E5.groups.com.a
Hi,
I've lost the emails pertaining to podcasts on catalina.
On Big sur, however, which may be equivalent to catalina I interact with
sidebar then there are about 10 or so default headings such as listen now and
browse etc If I want to browse for instance, I VO plus space bar then I stop
they should be in the same place which I think is called under music, then
iTUnes media folder under download podcast folder
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> do downloaded podcasts go to the same place in the Mac that
wn the first
> three keys and then hif f1 twice. it'll show you the running applications.
> when you hear the one that you forced to quit, vo-space on it and then right
> or left arrow around until you find "close.
>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
Hi,
On a Mac Book air with os Catalina, does VO remain active during the
restoration to factory settings and erase and re install of oS? I have to do
this to send back to apple, so wondering if I need sighted help.
Thanks.
patrick
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Hi,
On setting up my mac book air 6 years ago, I don’t recall needing sighted help
with the opening set up. This is a new mac book air with the touch bar. So, is
it manageable with VO during the set up?
Thanks.
patrick
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> On Mar 6, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
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> And to add, if you hold command and triple tap the power button in top right
> hand, this will toggle VoiceOver so you don’t have to use the accessibility
> dialog.
>
> Best
Great, thanks Brad. I appreciate it.
Patrick
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> On Mar 6, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>
> Or, you could just press CMD + Triple pressing the Power/TouchID button, to
> directly turn on VoiceOver, and skip the Accessibility dialogue.
>
rased, restore mode can be used to instalb the original OS.
>
> entt from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> On a Mac Book air with os Catalina, does VO remain active during the
>> restoration to factory settings an
Thanks so much, I appreciate your help.
Patrick
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> On Mar 6, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> This should be fairly simple. When you triple tap the power button after the
> computer is on, an accessibility dialog comes
Hey thanks everyone who gave me a hand on setting up new mac and erasing old
mac - everything has gone as everyone explained, so thanks so much.
Patrick
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>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Patrick Ford > <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks so much
Hi,
With this new mac, whenever I attempt to use the shortcut menu to remove an app
from the doc I am repeatedly sent to the finder. Is there something I am doing
wrong, or is it a quirky new thing with big sur?
Thanks.
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> I’m entering this discussion a little too late, but in case it helps anyone
> else…
> David Woodbridge has
Hi,
After force quitting mail, on my mac os catalina,the notification of this
remains. How do I get rid of this? I can restart, and this works but maybe
there is a better way?
Thanks.
Patrick
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>> On Feb 23, 2021, at 05:24, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Since Mac’s Text Edit is not available on IOS, can anyone suggest a text
>> editor that will mainly be used on my iPad?
>> Thanks so much.
>> Patrick
&g
Hi,
Since Mac’s Text Edit is not available on IOS, can anyone suggest a text editor
that will mainly be used on my iPad?
Thanks so much.
Patrick
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>> On Feb 23, 2021, at 5:24 AM, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Since Mac’s Text Edit is not available on IOS, can anyone suggest a text
>> editor that will mainly be used on my iPad?
>> Thanks so much.
>> Patrick
>>
This may be true - but I have noticed that when I play any file through iTUnes,
it is added and I can find it not only on my Mac b but on my phone and iPad as
well -
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> if I put a book from
Hi,
Can anyone suggest a twitter client? I have never used it so don't know
anything about it.
Thanks.
Patrick
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> On Feb 18, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:
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> You do not need to use VO + Spacebar, to select a folder or item from the
> Sidebar. Once you have navigated to the item, it is selected. Now, just
Hi, ok I now know the apps library is here to stay. So can I change the way the
apps are listed i.e., grid view to list? thanks ….Patrick
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Is there any way to remove the apps library returning to the older format of
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> Not sure, but you don’t have to use it at all. I don’t. It’s on a separate
> page and I have all my apps in my own folders.
> Herbie
>
>> On Feb 22, 2021, at 12:42, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I
hould then see the standard
> layout of the home screen.
>
> HTH.
>
> Eileen
>
> From: Patrick Ford <>
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:50 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: apps library again
>
> Hi, ok I now know the a
into the App library.
>
> Eileen
>
> From: Patrick Ford <>
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 4:11 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: apps library again
>
> Thank you Eileen. Yes this did occur - I wasn’t sure how it reversed itself
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On a Mac Big Sur, how is a new iCloud email account set up? Thanks. patrick
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How is repeat mode set for on in apple music? In the control menu there is a
repeat menu with 3 options: off, all, or 1. But it does not seem to function.
This is with a M1 mac book air.
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Hi,
When running the music app on my m1 mac book air, VO tells me that music is
busy - then the warning comes on that I am running out of system application
memory - not sure what this means - I only have zoom on my computer and the
apps that come with the mac - I have re booted but yet the
Hi,
In creating a new icloud email account, is it the icloud password that is
needed? Each time I attempt, the sign in is not working so I click the back
button - after changing the email address many times I am thinking that I have
the wrong type of password. The screen does not notify me as
Hi, Just to let you know, I use zoom at least once a week and sometimes twice,
and I enter the zoom meeting with no issues - there is the first screen so to
speak of allowing safari to open zoom and once I click this, I'm in and there
are no issues.
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see is a "Play Next, and Autoplay is on
> button” Interact and VO right to the Autoplay button and VO Space. That will
> disable the feature. You can pause the song if you want once you start it
> playing.
>
>> On Oct 17, 2021, at 13:50, Patrick Ford wrote:
>>
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Hi,
After my playlist ends, apple music continues with their own idea of the music.
Where do I go to tuen turn this off?
Thanks.
Patrick
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Hi,
With the latest update to 12.1 - my mac book air m1 tells me 'music has no
windows ' I have restarted and forced quit the music program but still no
windows. Does anyone know what to do ? Thanks.
Patrick
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discussed the alternative method of navigation
> without interaction. When you get to the table, do an option down aero, then
> up aero and you will find the clock menu that way. VO right, and you will see
> all the options for date and what not.
> Herbie
>
>> On Nov 18
or some items,
>>> VoiceOver may say Empty Cell, or VoiceOver may speak a row number.
>>> In any case, the Clock Menu Bar item is the 4th row from the bottom of the
>>> table, which is row 15.
>>>
>>> 4. Once you have stoped interacting with the ta
de your selection, close the System Preferences window,
> and you are done.
>
> HTH.
>
> - Brad -
>
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> On Nov 18, 2021, at 05:52, Patrick Ford <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Hi,
> In the clock menu of doc and menus in system preferences I cannot
u have stoped interacting with the table, navigate using VO +
>> RightArrow, until you hear VoiceOver speak Clock, and then Date Options,
>> which is followed by several items, that can be selected or unselected to
>> suit your preferences.
>> 5. Once you have made your selec
>>> Exactly.
>>>
>>> - Brad -
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>>> On Nov 18, 2021, at 10:51, Herbie Allen >> <mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don’t forget guys we also discussed the alternative method of navigation
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