subject:"Authentication has new Window"

Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread E.T.

   I experimented with this but same thing. Maybe it does have to do 
with authenticating something but I did not find anything in Security prefs.


   I use a password to log in. In case that is related.

   Ok here is a question. As it applies to the Mac, what exactly does 
authenticating mean? I do not think I have ever seen a phantom window 
when I press VO f2 f2.


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On 1/26/2017 11:45 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

What about setting to 40 to 50 minutes?
Best wishes,

Jonathan




On Jan 26, 2017, at 2:42 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

  Yes setting both to Never under the Power tab dies not clear this
problem. To verify, after I made the changes, I did a cold boot.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 1/26/2017 11:20 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Hmmm.  Interesting.  When I set my display to sleep after one minute,
the announcement came after one minute.  When I set it for five minutes,
it took five before announcing.  I did not set it to never though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:16, Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierck...@me.com
<mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>
<mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim and all,
Even while I had my display and computer sleep set to never while
connected to battery as a test, I noticed that it still said
authentication has new window.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, IOS  and Windows Trainer
JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140
U.S. phone: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com <mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>
<mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>


On Jan 26, 2017, at 14:13, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com
<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>
<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

hi,

Upon further investigation, what appears to be going on here is due to
the display sleep setting.  So, in System Prefs, Energy Saver, there
should be sliders for both the computer and the display sleep
settings.  When the display goes to sleep, whatever process is invoked
must cause the Authentication window to be activated.  If in Security,
you've set that to require a password to unlock, then the login screen
is made the active process, but if that is not set, the Authentication
window is still invoked, thus VO says its piece.  You could get around
this by setting the Display sleep to be a longer interval.  I would
have thought that setting either the App verbosity or the Window
verbosity to "Low" would limit this announcement, but it did not.
I'll investigate a little more and see if I can figure out something
for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:44, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

"Secondary authentication"? As in 2 step or factor authentication?
No. Interesting possibility though.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
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On 1/26/2017 9:16 AM, Gerard Doody wrote:

secondary authentication


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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread E.T.

   What do you mean by making the screen saver longer? Since I do not 
want my Mac to sleep, if I will be away from it for a period of time, I 
invoke the screen saver. Whatever changed happened between Sierra 
updates I am pretty sure. Also hear this pesky message twice when I cold 
boot.


   Disabling cursor tracking is nice. How to apply this so tracking 
remains on while reducing the repetition. Hmmm.


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On 1/26/2017 11:41 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

I know what you mean by the first, and I believe folks indicated that if
you make the screen saver features very long that it will go away.

The second issue I have experienced and played with a bit but didn't
figure out. What I did notice is that if you turn off cursor tracking
with VO F3 then it only speaks once. I wonder if there is an option to
speak the item with focus at a different speed or pitch? I rarely go to
the desktop anymore now that folders that are in the dock work better
with VoiceOver.

Best wishes,

Jonathan




On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:28 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Jonathan,
  Not sure which element is involved. At some point, in between
updates, when I invoked the screensaver, VO would announce
"Screensaver something". Then something changed and now announces
"Authentication has new Window".

  Another issue that no one seems to have seen is, every time I close
Finder, VO announces the item in focus on the desktop not once but 3
times.

  I exported the VO settings in VO Utility then restored to defaults.
No change. I sure do not want to do a third clean install.

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On 1/24/2017 6:22 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

If you go into the custom area of verbosity, not only can you adjust for
each type of element, but you can adjust the order of Name, Type State
for elements.

Best wishes,

Jonathan




On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:21 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

 Is there any way to dial back some of Voiceover's verbosity? Can
this be addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?

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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread Michael Marshall

i have found the same bug with the Desktop repetition from VO, it doesn't do it 
all the time from what i have seen but it is still quite annoying.
Siri on the Mac is still not reading tweets before posting witch is another bug 
that is driving me mad.
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 3:28 am, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
>   Not sure which element is involved. At some point, in between updates, when 
> I invoked the screensaver, VO would announce "Screensaver something". Then 
> something changed and now announces "Authentication has new Window".
> 
>   Another issue that no one seems to have seen is, every time I close Finder, 
> VO announces the item in focus on the desktop not once but 3 times.
> 
>   I exported the VO settings in VO Utility then restored to defaults. No 
> change. I sure do not want to do a third clean install.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/24/2017 6:22 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> If you go into the custom area of verbosity, not only can you adjust for
>> each type of element, but you can adjust the order of Name, Type State
>> for elements.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:21 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Is there any way to dial back some of Voiceover's verbosity? Can
>>> this be addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn

What about setting to 40 to 50 minutes?
Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Jan 26, 2017, at 2:42 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Yes setting both to Never under the Power tab dies not clear this problem. 
> To verify, after I made the changes, I did a cold boot.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/26/2017 11:20 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi Matthew,
>> 
>> Hmmm.  Interesting.  When I set my display to sleep after one minute,
>> the announcement came after one minute.  When I set it for five minutes,
>> it took five before announcing.  I did not set it to never though.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:16, Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierck...@me.com
>> <mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim and all,
>> Even while I had my display and computer sleep set to never while
>> connected to battery as a test, I noticed that it still said
>> authentication has new window.
>> 
>> God bless.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh, IOS  and Windows Trainer
>> JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
>> Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140
>> U.S. phone: 573-401-1018
>> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com <mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 14:13, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com
>>> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> 
>>> Upon further investigation, what appears to be going on here is due to
>>> the display sleep setting.  So, in System Prefs, Energy Saver, there
>>> should be sliders for both the computer and the display sleep
>>> settings.  When the display goes to sleep, whatever process is invoked
>>> must cause the Authentication window to be activated.  If in Security,
>>> you've set that to require a password to unlock, then the login screen
>>> is made the active process, but if that is not set, the Authentication
>>> window is still invoked, thus VO says its piece.  You could get around
>>> this by setting the Display sleep to be a longer interval.  I would
>>> have thought that setting either the App verbosity or the Window
>>> verbosity to "Low" would limit this announcement, but it did not.
>>> I'll investigate a little more and see if I can figure out something
>>> for you.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:44, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Secondary authentication"? As in 2 step or factor authentication?
>>> No. Interesting possibility though.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>> On 1/26/2017 9:16 AM, Gerard Doody wrote:
>>>> secondary authentication
>>> 
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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread E.T.

   Yes setting both to Never under the Power tab dies not clear this 
problem. To verify, after I made the changes, I did a cold boot.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/26/2017 11:20 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Hmmm.  Interesting.  When I set my display to sleep after one minute,
the announcement came after one minute.  When I set it for five minutes,
it took five before announcing.  I did not set it to never though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:16, Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierck...@me.com
<mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim and all,
Even while I had my display and computer sleep set to never while
connected to battery as a test, I noticed that it still said
authentication has new window.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, IOS  and Windows Trainer
JAWS for windows Certified - 2016
Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140
U.S. phone: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com <mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>


On Jan 26, 2017, at 14:13, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com
<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:

hi,

Upon further investigation, what appears to be going on here is due to
the display sleep setting.  So, in System Prefs, Energy Saver, there
should be sliders for both the computer and the display sleep
settings.  When the display goes to sleep, whatever process is invoked
must cause the Authentication window to be activated.  If in Security,
you've set that to require a password to unlock, then the login screen
is made the active process, but if that is not set, the Authentication
window is still invoked, thus VO says its piece.  You could get around
this by setting the Display sleep to be a longer interval.  I would
have thought that setting either the App verbosity or the Window
verbosity to "Low" would limit this announcement, but it did not.
 I'll investigate a little more and see if I can figure out something
for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:44, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

 "Secondary authentication"? As in 2 step or factor authentication?
No. Interesting possibility though.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 1/26/2017 9:16 AM, Gerard Doody wrote:

secondary authentication


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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn

I know what you mean by the first, and I believe folks indicated that if you 
make the screen saver features very long that it will go away.

The second issue I have experienced and played with a bit but didn't figure 
out. What I did notice is that if you turn off cursor tracking with VO F3 then 
it only speaks once. I wonder if there is an option to speak the item with 
focus at a different speed or pitch? I rarely go to the desktop anymore now 
that folders that are in the dock work better with VoiceOver. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:28 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
>   Not sure which element is involved. At some point, in between updates, when 
> I invoked the screensaver, VO would announce "Screensaver something". Then 
> something changed and now announces "Authentication has new Window".
> 
>   Another issue that no one seems to have seen is, every time I close Finder, 
> VO announces the item in focus on the desktop not once but 3 times.
> 
>   I exported the VO settings in VO Utility then restored to defaults. No 
> change. I sure do not want to do a third clean install.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/24/2017 6:22 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> If you go into the custom area of verbosity, not only can you adjust for
>> each type of element, but you can adjust the order of Name, Type State
>> for elements.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:21 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Is there any way to dial back some of Voiceover's verbosity? Can
>>> this be addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> 
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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi Matthew,

Hmmm.  Interesting.  When I set my display to sleep after one minute, the 
announcement came after one minute.  When I set it for five minutes, it took 
five before announcing.  I did not set it to never though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:16, Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierck...@me.com> wrote:

Hi Tim and all,
Even while I had my display and computer sleep set to never while connected to 
battery as a test, I noticed that it still said authentication has new window.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
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> On Jan 26, 2017, at 14:13, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com 
> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Upon further investigation, what appears to be going on here is due to the 
> display sleep setting.  So, in System Prefs, Energy Saver, there should be 
> sliders for both the computer and the display sleep settings.  When the 
> display goes to sleep, whatever process is invoked must cause the 
> Authentication window to be activated.  If in Security, you've set that to 
> require a password to unlock, then the login screen is made the active 
> process, but if that is not set, the Authentication window is still invoked, 
> thus VO says its piece.  You could get around this by setting the Display 
> sleep to be a longer interval.  I would have thought that setting either the 
> App verbosity or the Window verbosity to "Low" would limit this announcement, 
> but it did not.  I'll investigate a little more and see if I can figure out 
> something for you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:44, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
> 
>  "Secondary authentication"? As in 2 step or factor authentication? No. 
> Interesting possibility though.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
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> On 1/26/2017 9:16 AM, Gerard Doody wrote:
>> secondary authentication
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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread Matthew Dierckens

Hi Tim and all,
Even while I had my display and computer sleep set to never while connected to 
battery as a test, I noticed that it still said authentication has new window.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
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> On Jan 26, 2017, at 14:13, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> Upon further investigation, what appears to be going on here is due to the 
> display sleep setting.  So, in System Prefs, Energy Saver, there should be 
> sliders for both the computer and the display sleep settings.  When the 
> display goes to sleep, whatever process is invoked must cause the 
> Authentication window to be activated.  If in Security, you've set that to 
> require a password to unlock, then the login screen is made the active 
> process, but if that is not set, the Authentication window is still invoked, 
> thus VO says its piece.  You could get around this by setting the Display 
> sleep to be a longer interval.  I would have thought that setting either the 
> App verbosity or the Window verbosity to "Low" would limit this announcement, 
> but it did not.  I'll investigate a little more and see if I can figure out 
> something for you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:44, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>  "Secondary authentication"? As in 2 step or factor authentication? No. 
> Interesting possibility though.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/26/2017 9:16 AM, Gerard Doody wrote:
>> secondary authentication
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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread Tim Kilburn

hi,

Upon further investigation, what appears to be going on here is due to the 
display sleep setting.  So, in System Prefs, Energy Saver, there should be 
sliders for both the computer and the display sleep settings.  When the display 
goes to sleep, whatever process is invoked must cause the Authentication window 
to be activated.  If in Security, you've set that to require a password to 
unlock, then the login screen is made the active process, but if that is not 
set, the Authentication window is still invoked, thus VO says its piece.  You 
could get around this by setting the Display sleep to be a longer interval.  I 
would have thought that setting either the App verbosity or the Window 
verbosity to "Low" would limit this announcement, but it did not.  I'll 
investigate a little more and see if I can figure out something for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:44, E.T.  wrote:

  "Secondary authentication"? As in 2 step or factor authentication? No. 
Interesting possibility though.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/26/2017 9:16 AM, Gerard Doody wrote:
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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread E.T.


   Was reminded that I also get this message twice at login.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/26/2017 9:16 AM, Gerard Doody wrote:

Do you have secondary authentication enabled I think that may be the
problem I'm experiencing the same thing cheers Jerry

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Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:05 PM, CHUCK REICHEL
<soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com
<mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi ET.
I'm getting the same thing on my mac book air.
If for instance I'm reading a pdf and step away for a minute the
"Authentication has new Window" comes up and blows away my position
where I was reading!
Half to do some digging!
Talk soon
Chuck


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On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:28 AM, E.T. wrote:


Jonathan,
  Not sure which element is involved. At some point, in between
updates, when I invoked the screensaver, VO would announce
"Screensaver something". Then something changed and now announces
"Authentication has new Window".

  Another issue that no one seems to have seen is, every time I close
Finder, VO announces the item in focus on the desktop not once but 3
times.

  I exported the VO settings in VO Utility then restored to defaults.
No change. I sure do not want to do a third clean install.

From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
 I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>

On 1/24/2017 6:22 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

If you go into the custom area of verbosity, not only can you adjust for
each type of element, but you can adjust the order of Name, Type State
for elements.

Best wishes,

Jonathan




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<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

 Is there any way to dial back some of Voiceover's verbosity? Can
this be addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?

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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread E.T.

   "Secondary authentication"? As in 2 step or factor authentication? 
No. Interesting possibility though.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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On 1/26/2017 9:16 AM, Gerard Doody wrote:

secondary authentication


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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread Gerard Doody

Do you have secondary authentication enabled I think that may be the problem 
I'm experiencing the same thing cheers Jerry

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Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:05 PM, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi ET.
I'm getting the same thing on my mac book air.
If for instance I'm reading a pdf and step away for a minute the 
"Authentication has new Window" comes up and blows away my position where I was 
reading!
Half to do some digging!
Talk soon
Chuck


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> On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:28 AM, E.T. wrote:
> 
> Jonathan,
>   Not sure which element is involved. At some point, in between updates, when 
> I invoked the screensaver, VO would announce "Screensaver something". Then 
> something changed and now announces "Authentication has new Window".
> 
>   Another issue that no one seems to have seen is, every time I close Finder, 
> VO announces the item in focus on the desktop not once but 3 times.
> 
>   I exported the VO settings in VO Utility then restored to defaults. No 
> change. I sure do not want to do a third clean install.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 1/24/2017 6:22 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> If you go into the custom area of verbosity, not only can you adjust for
>> each type of element, but you can adjust the order of Name, Type State
>> for elements.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:21 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Is there any way to dial back some of Voiceover's verbosity? Can
>>> this be addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread CHUCK REICHEL

Hi ET.
I'm getting the same thing on my mac book air.
If for instance I'm reading a pdf and step away for a minute the 
"Authentication has new Window" comes up and blows away my position where I was 
reading!
Half to do some digging!
Talk soon
Chuck


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954-742-0019
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trusteth in thee.

In GOD I Trust
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On Jan 26, 2017, at 11:28 AM, E.T. wrote:

> Jonathan,
>   Not sure which element is involved. At some point, in between updates, when 
> I invoked the screensaver, VO would announce "Screensaver something". Then 
> something changed and now announces "Authentication has new Window".
> 
>   Another issue that no one seems to have seen is, every time I close Finder, 
> VO announces the item in focus on the desktop not once but 3 times.
> 
>   I exported the VO settings in VO Utility then restored to defaults. No 
> change. I sure do not want to do a third clean install.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/24/2017 6:22 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> If you go into the custom area of verbosity, not only can you adjust for
>> each type of element, but you can adjust the order of Name, Type State
>> for elements.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:21 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Is there any way to dial back some of Voiceover's verbosity? Can
>>> this be addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> I have seen the truth and it makes no sense.
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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-26 Thread E.T.


Jonathan,
   Not sure which element is involved. At some point, in between 
updates, when I invoked the screensaver, VO would announce "Screensaver 
something". Then something changed and now announces "Authentication has 
new Window".


   Another issue that no one seems to have seen is, every time I close 
Finder, VO announces the item in focus on the desktop not once but 3 times.


   I exported the VO settings in VO Utility then restored to defaults. 
No change. I sure do not want to do a third clean install.


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On 1/24/2017 6:22 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

If you go into the custom area of verbosity, not only can you adjust for
each type of element, but you can adjust the order of Name, Type State
for elements.

Best wishes,

Jonathan




On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:21 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

  Is there any way to dial back some of Voiceover's verbosity? Can
this be addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?

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Re: Authentication has new Window

2017-01-24 Thread Jonathan Cohn

If you go into the custom area of verbosity, not only can you adjust for each 
type of element, but you can adjust the order of Name, Type State for elements.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Jan 24, 2017, at 3:21 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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> addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?
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Authentication has new Window

2017-01-24 Thread E.T.

   Is there any way to dial back some of Voiceover's verbosity? Can 
this be addressed by setting custom levels in VO Utility?


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