Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-21 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Jason,

Thanks for suggesting this.  It seems to work.  The hardest part for me right 
now is remembering to use that gesture rather than trying to tap the dictate 
button, but when I do, it does the trick.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 18, 2022, at 5:43 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Good question.  I’ve never used that gesture to accomplish that.  I'll try it 
> and report back.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2022, at 3:51 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
>>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message sends, 
>>> and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it was a bug.
>> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
>> instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Yes that’s what’s happen for me too.
The only thing I can come up with is to just report things to the accessibility 
team.
/A

> 20 dec. 2022 kl. 17:27 skrev Jessica Moss :
> 
> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging up 
>> a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, it 
>> is quite annoying.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
>>> Very annoying.
>>> /A
>>> 
 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 :
 
 
 On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
> was a bug.
 What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
 instead of the button?
 
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
That reasoning makes sense, but it always worked for me up until iOS 16, so 
something has changed that has made VO less able to distinguish between the 
uses for that gesture.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Luckily, it only does that on my end on occasion, so I’m guessing it’s a bug 
> or a software glitch that can’t be easily fixed, since 1 gesture performs 2 
> different commands, so it would be like being in a room with 2 people with 
> the same name, and having both people answer you unless you call one of them 
> by their last name, or a nickname.
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 11:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That I haven’t seen, at least so far. (Fingers crossed)
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Jessica Moss  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
>>> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
>>> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
>>> 
 On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging 
 up a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I 
 agree, it is quite annoying.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
> Very annoying.
> /A
> 
>> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
>>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
>>> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if 
>>> it was a bug.
>> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end 
>> dictation, instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Dave Carlson
Yes, this happens to me on occasion, where after dictating I do the magic tap 
and my audio book starts playing. And yes, I need to go to the home page to 
turn off the audio book there, in order to go back to the original app and stop 
the dictation, or re-start as the case may be. Seems to have been an issue for 
at least the last couple minor updates of iOS 16.

Dave Carlson
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On Dec 20, 2022, at 8:58 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

Luckily, it only does that on my end on occasion, so I’m guessing it’s a bug or 
a software glitch that can’t be easily fixed, since 1 gesture performs 2 
different commands, so it would be like being in a room with 2 people with the 
same name, and having both people answer you unless you call one of them by 
their last name, or a nickname.

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 11:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That I haven’t seen, at least so far. (Fingers crossed)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
>> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
>> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging 
>>> up a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, 
>>> it is quite annoying.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
 Very annoying.
 /A
 
> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> 
> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
>> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
>> was a bug.
> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
> instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Jessica Moss
Luckily, it only does that on my end on occasion, so I’m guessing it’s a bug or 
a software glitch that can’t be easily fixed, since 1 gesture performs 2 
different commands, so it would be like being in a room with 2 people with the 
same name, and having both people answer you unless you call one of them by 
their last name, or a nickname.

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 11:36 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That I haven’t seen, at least so far. (Fingers crossed)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
>> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
>> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging 
>>> up a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, 
>>> it is quite annoying.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
 Very annoying.
 /A
 
> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> 
> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
>> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
>> was a bug.
> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
> instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
That I haven’t seen, at least so far. (Fingers crossed)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
> requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but 
> the catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging up 
>> a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, it 
>> is quite annoying.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
>>> Very annoying.
>>> /A
>>> 
 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 :
 
 
 On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
> sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
> was a bug.
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Jessica Moss
You too? I’ve had that same glitch on my end, or if I’m playing a game that 
requires the “magic tap” sometimes it will also trigger the music app, but the 
catch22 is, it won’t turn it off unless I exit out of the game.

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> Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging up 
> a phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, it 
> is quite annoying.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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>> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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>> Hi!
>> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
>> Very annoying.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  
 Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message 
 sends, and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it 
 was a bug.
>>> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
>>> instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Oh, I’ve had that happen, too.  It seems to happen a lot when I’m hanging up a 
phone call.  It hangs up, but also starts playing music.  And I agree, it is 
quite annoying.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 20, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
> Very annoying.
> /A
> 
>> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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>>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message sends, 
>>> and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it was a bug.
>> What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end dictation, 
>> instead of the button?
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-20 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
FOr me it ends dictation but starts the music at the same time.
Very annoying.
/A

> 18 dec. 2022 kl. 22:51 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> :
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> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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>> Sometimes dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message sends, 
>> and sometimes it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it was a bug.
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Good question.  I’ve never used that gesture to accomplish that.  I'll try it 
and report back.
Cheers,
Donna

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> 
> On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-18 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries



On 19/12/22 08:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  Sometimes 
dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message sends, and sometimes 
it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it was a bug.
What happens if you use a two-finger double-tap gesture to end 
dictation, instead of the button?


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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Mary,

I’ve seen the problem you’re talking about, too.  It’s very strange.  Sometimes 
dictation doesn’t stop, sometimes it stops and the message sends, and sometimes 
it behaves correctly, which is why I wondered if it was a bug.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Dec 18, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Hi Donna,
> I have not seen that problem. I have seen the problem where after I dictate a 
> message and double tap to stop dictation, it doesn’t stop. Maybe it takes two 
> or three taps for it to stop. But I haven’t seen what you’re describing, 
> thank goodness!
> Mary.
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>> On Dec 18, 2022, at 1:15 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Ever since iO s 16, I’ve been experiencing an issue in the Messages app.  
>> When I go to tap the dictation button to end dictating a message, instead of 
>> dictation stopping, the message is automatically sent.  This is frustrating, 
>> because it’s resulted in messages being sent before I was able to edit out 
>> Siri’s errors.  Is anyone else experiencing this?  Anyone know if this is a 
>> bug, or if I’m doing something wrong?  I never had this problem before iOS 
>> 16.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-18 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Donna,
I have not seen that problem. I have seen the problem where after I dictate a 
message and double tap to stop dictation, it doesn’t stop. Maybe it takes two 
or three taps for it to stop. But I haven’t seen what you’re describing, thank 
goodness!
Mary.


Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi all,
> 
> Ever since iO s 16, I’ve been experiencing an issue in the Messages app.  
> When I go to tap the dictation button to end dictating a message, instead of 
> dictation stopping, the message is automatically sent.  This is frustrating, 
> because it’s resulted in messages being sent before I was able to edit out 
> Siri’s errors.  Is anyone else experiencing this?  Anyone know if this is a 
> bug, or if I’m doing something wrong?  I never had this problem before iOS 16.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Dictating and sending messages in iOS 16

2022-12-18 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi all,

Ever since iO s 16, I’ve been experiencing an issue in the Messages app.  When 
I go to tap the dictation button to end dictating a message, instead of 
dictation stopping, the message is automatically sent.  This is frustrating, 
because it’s resulted in messages being sent before I was able to edit out 
Siri’s errors.  Is anyone else experiencing this?  Anyone know if this is a 
bug, or if I’m doing something wrong?  I never had this problem before iOS 16.
Cheers,
Donna

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