Re: How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
I’ve already contacted them, Andrew.
Best,
Donna


> On Aug 29, 2021, at 4:04 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Please, keep on badgering Apple accessibility about multilingual issues as 
> voice switching. It was messed up when High Sierra came and it was never 
> fixed thereafter. I’ve been writing to Accessibility a about this for over 5 
> years now and they haven’t’ improved a bit about this.  Please start writing 
> and complaining about this forcefully.  A single voice like myself is being 
> ignored but we have to act en masse.  In Sierra, you could press a shortcut 
> key combination to alternate between the. two different languages you use 
> easily.  You could also choose a number of languages in the language rotor 
> you mostly use. Since then you have languages in the rotor you never have 
> chosen & you can’t remove them.  It’s a mess.  But Accessibility don’t listen 
> to multilanguage folk like us who must use several languages, some of us for 
> work.  The Greek language for instance is still broken since Sierra and they 
> haven’t fixed it although I’ve been begging for 5 years now.  It’s a joke.  
> Please please write to them to fix language facility on mac.
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On 27 Aug 2021, at 19:30, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Huh.  I wonder what it needs to detect the language.  I’ve tried restarting 
>> VO and also rebooting the computer, and it still doesn’t change languages.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It should when it detects a different language.
>>> Mine does.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve done that, but the voice doesn’t change.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder >>> > wrote:
 
 Try pressing VO + CMD + Shift, and then use the Right/Left arrow key to 
 Voices, then press Up arrow to "Automatically Select Based On Language”.
 
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high 
 Sierra?  I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not 
 seeing an option for it.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-29 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Please, keep on badgering Apple accessibility about multilingual issues as 
voice switching. It was messed up when High Sierra came and it was never fixed 
thereafter. I’ve been writing to Accessibility a about this for over 5 years 
now and they haven’t’ improved a bit about this.  Please start writing and 
complaining about this forcefully.  A single voice like myself is being ignored 
but we have to act en masse.  In Sierra, you could press a shortcut key 
combination to alternate between the. two different languages you use easily.  
You could also choose a number of languages in the language rotor you mostly 
use. Since then you have languages in the rotor you never have chosen & you 
can’t remove them.  It’s a mess.  But Accessibility don’t listen to 
multilanguage folk like us who must use several languages, some of us for work. 
 The Greek language for instance is still broken since Sierra and they haven’t 
fixed it although I’ve been begging for 5 years now.  It’s a joke.  Please 
please write to them to fix language facility on mac.

Andrew

> On 27 Aug 2021, at 19:30, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Huh.  I wonder what it needs to detect the language.  I’ve tried restarting 
> VO and also rebooting the computer, and it still doesn’t change languages.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> It should when it detects a different language.
>> Mine does.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve done that, but the voice doesn’t change.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try pressing VO + CMD + Shift, and then use the Right/Left arrow key to 
>>> Voices, then press Up arrow to "Automatically Select Based On Language”.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high 
>>> Sierra?  I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not 
>>> seeing an option for it.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Hi Jonathan,

I’ve been testing this using mail, because I write a lot of email in Spanish.  
If you can create an example that works, I’d be very interested.

Thanks for your help.
Best,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 28, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Donna, 
> What program is your primary concern with language switching? Let me see if I 
> can create an example that works.
> Though I would think going to practically any web site in Spain should cause 
> the language to switch.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 14:30, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Huh.  I wonder what it needs to detect the language.  I’ve tried restarting 
>> VO and also rebooting the computer, and it still doesn’t change languages.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It should when it detects a different language.
>>> Mine does.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve done that, but the voice doesn’t change.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 Try pressing VO + CMD + Shift, and then use the Right/Left arrow key to 
 Voices, then press Up arrow to "Automatically Select Based On Language”.
 
 
 - Brad -
 
 
 On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high 
 Sierra?  I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not 
 seeing an option for it.
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
Donna, 
What program is your primary concern with language switching? Let me see if I 
can create an example that works.
Though I would think going to practically any web site in Spain should cause 
the language to switch.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 27, 2021, at 14:30, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Huh.  I wonder what it needs to detect the language.  I’ve tried restarting 
> VO and also rebooting the computer, and it still doesn’t change languages.
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> It should when it detects a different language.
>> Mine does.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve done that, but the voice doesn’t change.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try pressing VO + CMD + Shift, and then use the Right/Left arrow key to 
>>> Voices, then press Up arrow to "Automatically Select Based On Language”.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high 
>>> Sierra?  I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not 
>>> seeing an option for it.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Huh.  I wonder what it needs to detect the language.  I’ve tried restarting VO 
and also rebooting the computer, and it still doesn’t change languages.
Donna


> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> It should when it detects a different language.
> Mine does.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve done that, but the voice doesn’t change.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Try pressing VO + CMD + Shift, and then use the Right/Left arrow key to 
>> Voices, then press Up arrow to "Automatically Select Based On Language”.
>> 
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high 
>> Sierra?  I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not 
>> seeing an option for it.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-27 Thread Brad Snyder 
It should when it detects a different language.
Mine does.

- Brad -


On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I’ve done that, but the voice doesn’t change.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Try pressing VO + CMD + Shift, and then use the Right/Left arrow key to 
> Voices, then press Up arrow to "Automatically Select Based On Language”.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high 
> Sierra?  I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not 
> seeing an option for it.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
I’ve done that, but the voice doesn’t change.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Aug 27, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Try pressing VO + CMD + Shift, and then use the Right/Left arrow key to 
> Voices, then press Up arrow to "Automatically Select Based On Language”.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
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> On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Hi all,
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high 
> Sierra?  I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not 
> seeing an option for it.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-27 Thread Brad Snyder 
Try pressing VO + CMD + Shift, and then use the Right/Left arrow key to Voices, 
then press Up arrow to "Automatically Select Based On Language”.


- Brad -


On Aug 27, 2021, at 09:24, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high Sierra?  
I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not seeing an option 
for it.
TIA,
Donna

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How to turn on auto Language switching in High Sierra

2021-08-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how to turn on automatic language switching in high Sierra?  
I’ve looked in Speech and verbosity in VO settings, but am not seeing an option 
for it.
TIA,
Donna

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