Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Mother Earth is choking to death on plastic. Whether Apple is making q profit or not matters not to me unless I own 51% of its stocks. And it really does not affect my use of the Mac and iPhone. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/26/2018 8:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote: It seems to me that since Apple’s profits keep going up, they don’t need to do anything. Once sales start going down, they will have to do something. As long as people are willing to pay the price, why the heck should they charge Les and make Les? Were I an Apple shareholder, I wouldn’t like that very much. They are private company, and this is how capitalism works, which has its downsides of coarse. But just look at who is making the profits in the smart phone business. Apple. They’re killing everybody else in terms of profit margin. Market share? No. But so what? What matters to a company at the end of the day is the bottom line. Considering that you could have an iPhone 5s, five year old phone, and be running the latest operating system, that seems to be a pretty good track record in terms of keeping your device once you have it. Android can’t touch it. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2018, at 1:58 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Hells teeth, That would be the size or close to it of an iPad mini4 A VHS tape crazy. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 4:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor Hello Anders, Well, it's been quite some time since I last held the Samsung Mega and you must remember that, at that time, iPhone 5 S was the latest Apple device on the market. Relative to that, I would say that the Mega was about the size of an old 8 track tape or, as another list member suggested, a little larger than an old VHS video cartridge; much thinner, of course. It was huge!!! (smile) Ah, the memories. (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor Hi! Thanks for this one Mark. Just curious to know what the form factor was of the samsung mega? I didn’t understand that quite clear. My intention is not to buy me a new Iphone since i am very happy with my Iphone SE and my Nokia 8. But i am interested any how. /A 23 sep. 2018 kl. 04:05 skrev M. Taylor : Hello Everyone, Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, there were almost no customers. The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic Apple representative. Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow me, enough. Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet computer. Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega. So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus. I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention. Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I was counting on it. The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!. All I know
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
It seems to me that since Apple’s profits keep going up, they don’t need to do anything. Once sales start going down, they will have to do something. As long as people are willing to pay the price, why the heck should they charge Les and make Les? Were I an Apple shareholder, I wouldn’t like that very much. They are private company, and this is how capitalism works, which has its downsides of coarse. But just look at who is making the profits in the smart phone business. Apple. They’re killing everybody else in terms of profit margin. Market share? No. But so what? What matters to a company at the end of the day is the bottom line. Considering that you could have an iPhone 5s, five year old phone, and be running the latest operating system, that seems to be a pretty good track record in terms of keeping your device once you have it. Android can’t touch it. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 26, 2018, at 1:58 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hells teeth, > > That would be the size or close to it of an iPad mini4 > A VHS tape crazy. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 4:39 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > Hello Anders, > > Well, it's been quite some time since I last held the Samsung Mega and you > must remember that, at that time, iPhone 5 S was the latest Apple device on > the market. Relative to that, I would say that the Mega was about the size > of an old 8 track tape or, as another list member suggested, a little larger > than an old VHS video cartridge; much thinner, of course. It was huge!!! > (smile) Ah, the memories. (smile). > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:13 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > Hi! > Thanks for this one Mark. > Just curious to know what the form factor was of the samsung mega? > I didn’t understand that quite clear. > My intention is not to buy me a new Iphone since i am very happy with my > Iphone SE and my Nokia 8. > But i am interested any how. > /A > >> 23 sep. 2018 kl. 04:05 skrev M. Taylor : >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >> >> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >> expected, there were almost no customers. >> >> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >> enthusiastic Apple representative. >> >> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really >> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display >> size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for >> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 >> S Max if it could wow me, enough. >> >> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern >> phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. >> Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as >> though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just >> couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >> >> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It >> felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone >> and a tablet computer. >> >> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with >> my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >> >> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like >> Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making >> the Mega. >> >> >> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, >> on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge >> form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it >> or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical >> to my 8 Plus. >> >> I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple >> sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical >> attention. >> >> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of >> the 10 S Max but, som
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hells teeth, That would be the size or close to it of an iPad mini4 A VHS tape crazy. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2018 4:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor Hello Anders, Well, it's been quite some time since I last held the Samsung Mega and you must remember that, at that time, iPhone 5 S was the latest Apple device on the market. Relative to that, I would say that the Mega was about the size of an old 8 track tape or, as another list member suggested, a little larger than an old VHS video cartridge; much thinner, of course. It was huge!!! (smile) Ah, the memories. (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor Hi! Thanks for this one Mark. Just curious to know what the form factor was of the samsung mega? I didn’t understand that quite clear. My intention is not to buy me a new Iphone since i am very happy with my Iphone SE and my Nokia 8. But i am interested any how. /A > 23 sep. 2018 kl. 04:05 skrev M. Taylor : > > Hello Everyone, > > Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not > intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. > > Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I > expected, there were almost no customers. > > The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very > enthusiastic Apple representative. > > Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really > wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display > size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for > Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 > S Max if it could wow me, enough. > > Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern > phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. > Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as > though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just > couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. > > It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It > felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone > and a tablet computer. > > Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with > my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) > > I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like > Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making > the Mega. > > > So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, > on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge > form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it > or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical > to my 8 Plus. > > I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple > sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical > attention. > > Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of > the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would > be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I > was counting on it. > > The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much > better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, > blah!. > > All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S > Max from my beloved 8 Plus. > > As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size > difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a > new watch. > > Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays > without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind > of a let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me > at least, it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for > better or worse, set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to > return. > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
I'mpretty sure they're only thinking of money money money! The company use to make excelant products, They now make good products, I personally think they have lost their way slightly but I also think they need to drop prices to bring things back into the real world, They don't need to make money like they use to. They're already worth trillions -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 8:17 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor Hi! THis sounds like the pricing here in Sweden. Wonder what they’re thinking about at apple. /A > 23 sep. 2018 kl. 10:15 skrev Simon Fogarty : > > Hi Mark, > > Yeah I have had a plus sized phone before, it ws the 7+. > > I'm total so didn't get the increased resolution screen size, But it > was a good size for the keyboard and my big fingers > > However I'm now use to the X and found it more difficult to type on > the XS Max, > > But a real reason for me to not update is the pricing of the devices > here in NZ, The XS 256 GB device is 2200 nZ dollars The prices just go > up majorily from there. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 4:22 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > Hello Simon, > > You make an excellent point. > > You know, I do like to watch old episodes of the Twilight Zone and Star Trek > on my 8 Plus. I can enjoy the video easily enough, most of the time. > Yesterday, I had the sales person play a few videos and, no doubt because of > my poor vision, I did not really notice an increase in frame size. Doubtless > a sighted person would definitely notice the increase in display quality but > to me, it was undetectable. The display would have to be much larger in > order for me to find it easier to see. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 8:18 PM > To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > I thought the same way until I actually got to look at the new devices > yesterday and all I can say is that they are simply the same feel to that of > the likes of the 7 and 7+. > > They really or at least to me don't feel that large, But yet the increased > screen size isn't something we the blind can use due to it being more of a > visual increase rather than a physical increase. > The edge to edge would be great if you were watching videos etc > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 2:28 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone > looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is > there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice > large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did > your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My > regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller > form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >> >> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >> expected, there were almost no customers. >> >> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >> enthusiastic Apple representative. >> >> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really >> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display >> size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for >> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 >> S Max if it could wow me, enough. >> >> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first >> modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. >> Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as >> tho
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hello Anders, Well, it's been quite some time since I last held the Samsung Mega and you must remember that, at that time, iPhone 5 S was the latest Apple device on the market. Relative to that, I would say that the Mega was about the size of an old 8 track tape or, as another list member suggested, a little larger than an old VHS video cartridge; much thinner, of course. It was huge!!! (smile) Ah, the memories. (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 1:13 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor Hi! Thanks for this one Mark. Just curious to know what the form factor was of the samsung mega? I didn’t understand that quite clear. My intention is not to buy me a new Iphone since i am very happy with my Iphone SE and my Nokia 8. But i am interested any how. /A > 23 sep. 2018 kl. 04:05 skrev M. Taylor : > > Hello Everyone, > > Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not > intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. > > Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I > expected, there were almost no customers. > > The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very > enthusiastic Apple representative. > > Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really > wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display > size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for > Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 > S Max if it could wow me, enough. > > Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern > phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. > Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as > though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just > couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. > > It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It > felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone > and a tablet computer. > > Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with > my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) > > I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like > Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making > the Mega. > > > So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, > on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge > form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it > or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical > to my 8 Plus. > > I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple > sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical > attention. > > Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of > the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would > be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I > was counting on it. > > The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much > better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, > blah!. > > All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S > Max from my beloved 8 Plus. > > As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size > difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a > new watch. > > Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays > without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind > of a let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me > at least, it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for > better or worse, set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to > return. > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- &
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hi! I hope they’ll come out with a smaller Iphone but i doubt it. The SE is a really neat little device and i like its size even though it doesn’t have stereo speakers but that’s not an issue for me. /A > 23 sep. 2018 kl. 12:06 skrev Angie Nutt : > > I wonder if there’ll be a smaller phone coming out early next year. > > On Friday I was comparing the se with 6s as I wanted to make sure of some > facts before selling my 6s, and I discovered the se came out in March of the > following year. > > All the best > Angie > > >> On 23 Sep 2018, at 03:27, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big >> phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones >> is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a >> nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. >> How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a >> pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like >> a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended >>> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >>> >>> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, >>> there were almost no customers. >>> >>> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic >>> Apple representative. >>> >>> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted >>> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size. As you >>> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I >>> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow >>> me, enough. >>> >>> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern >>> phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. Its >>> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was >>> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just couldn't stop >>> grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >>> >>> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It felt, >>> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet >>> computer. >>> >>> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my >>> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >>> >>> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android >>> enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega. >>> >>> >>> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on >>> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on >>> the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it or not, the actual >>> body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus. >>> >>> I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales >>> rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention. >>> >>> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 >>> S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, >>> much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I was counting on >>> it. >>> >>> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better >>> the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!. >>> >>> All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from >>> my beloved 8 Plus. >>> >>> As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size >>> difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new >>> watch. >>> >>> Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays >>> without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a >>> let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least, >>> it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse, >>> set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hi! THis sounds like the pricing here in Sweden. Wonder what they’re thinking about at apple. /A > 23 sep. 2018 kl. 10:15 skrev Simon Fogarty : > > Hi Mark, > > Yeah I have had a plus sized phone before, it ws the 7+. > > I'm total so didn't get the increased resolution screen size, > But it was a good size for the keyboard and my big fingers > > However I'm now use to the X and found it more difficult to type on the XS > Max, > > But a real reason for me to not update is the pricing of the devices here in > NZ, > The XS 256 GB device is 2200 nZ dollars > The prices just go up majorily from there. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 4:22 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > Hello Simon, > > You make an excellent point. > > You know, I do like to watch old episodes of the Twilight Zone and Star Trek > on my 8 Plus. I can enjoy the video easily enough, most of the time. > Yesterday, I had the sales person play a few videos and, no doubt because of > my poor vision, I did not really notice an increase in frame size. Doubtless > a sighted person would definitely notice the increase in display quality but > to me, it was undetectable. The display would have to be much larger in > order for me to find it easier to see. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 8:18 PM > To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > I thought the same way until I actually got to look at the new devices > yesterday and all I can say is that they are simply the same feel to that of > the likes of the 7 and 7+. > > They really or at least to me don't feel that large, But yet the increased > screen size isn't something we the blind can use due to it being more of a > visual increase rather than a physical increase. > The edge to edge would be great if you were watching videos etc > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 2:28 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone > looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is > there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice > large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did > your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My > regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller > form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >> >> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >> expected, there were almost no customers. >> >> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >> enthusiastic Apple representative. >> >> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really >> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display >> size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for >> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 >> S Max if it could wow me, enough. >> >> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern >> phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. >> Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as >> though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just >> couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >> >> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It >> felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone >> and a tablet computer. >> >> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with >> my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >> >> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like >>
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hi! Thanks for this one Mark. Just curious to know what the form factor was of the samsung mega? I didn’t understand that quite clear. My intention is not to buy me a new Iphone since i am very happy with my Iphone SE and my Nokia 8. But i am interested any how. /A > 23 sep. 2018 kl. 04:05 skrev M. Taylor : > > Hello Everyone, > > Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended > to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. > > Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, > there were almost no customers. > > The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic > Apple representative. > > Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted > to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size. As you > may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I > discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow > me, enough. > > Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern > phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. Its > physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was > a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just couldn't stop > grinning, every time I held it in my hand. > > It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It felt, > just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet > computer. > > Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my > friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) > > I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android > enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega. > > > So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on > some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on > the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it or not, the actual > body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus. > > I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales > rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention. > > Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 > S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, > much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I was counting on > it. > > The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better > the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!. > > All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from > my beloved 8 Plus. > > As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size > difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new > watch. > > Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays > without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a > let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least, > it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse, > set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return. > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
You guys are so lucky, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Monday, 24 September 2018 12:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor I should have my watch in my hands tomorrow. Excited about it, one of the only apple things I can be excited about anyways. Mark I remember that phone loved it. I prefer bigger devices myself, and I want them to feel big. My mom was kind of upset when she noticed that her x max was pretty much the same size as her 8plus she had. I use to have a note myself and loved the fact that it took up a fair bit of space. Putting your phone in your back pocket um that's not me. My phone is normally in my front pocket or in a clip. I can't ever recall putting my phone in my back pocket. On 9/23/18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: > I can't wait! My series 1 is getting on my last nerve any more. lol > Cheers, Donna > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:14 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Donna, >> >> You are going to absolutely adore your series 4. Other than its >> size, I was amazed at how much faster it appeared to function, in the >> short time that I played with it, than even the Series 2. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:35 PM >> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor >> >> And here's another take on the Apple Watch. I'm eagerly awaiting my >> Series 4. But I'm still sporting a Series 1, and it's so slow as to >> almost be more of a hinderance than a help. So, for me the display >> size had nothing to do with the purchase decision. I want the power >> and speed, which I'm sure will be a big improvement over my series 1. >> I did think about saving some money and getting a series 3, but I >> figured it would just become slow that much faster, so decided to >> spend the money for the 4. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that >>> big phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about >>> these phones is there so much better design. You don’t need a >>> honking big thing to get a nice large display these days. I think >>> that is to be cheered not lamented. How did your friend Carrie that >>> monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My regret is that >>> Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller form >>> factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >>>> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >>>> >>>> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >>>> expected, there were almost no customers. >>>> >>>> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >>>> enthusiastic Apple representative. >>>> >>>> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me >>>> really wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch >>>> display size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not >>>> ready for Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to >>>> purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow me, enough. >>>> >>>> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first >>>> modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was >>>> 6.3 inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used >>>> it, I felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. >>>> I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >>>> >>>> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. >>>> It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a >>>> phone and a tablet computer. >>>> >>>> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time >>>> with my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. >>>> (smile) >&
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Lenron, It would appear, my friend, that you and I are alone in thinking that bigger is better. (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 5:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor I should have my watch in my hands tomorrow. Excited about it, one of the only apple things I can be excited about anyways. Mark I remember that phone loved it. I prefer bigger devices myself, and I want them to feel big. My mom was kind of upset when she noticed that her x max was pretty much the same size as her 8plus she had. I use to have a note myself and loved the fact that it took up a fair bit of space. Putting your phone in your back pocket um that's not me. My phone is normally in my front pocket or in a clip. I can't ever recall putting my phone in my back pocket. On 9/23/18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: > I can't wait! My series 1 is getting on my last nerve any more. lol > Cheers, Donna > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:14 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Donna, >> >> You are going to absolutely adore your series 4. Other than its >> size, I was amazed at how much faster it appeared to function, in the >> short time that I played with it, than even the Series 2. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:35 PM >> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor >> >> And here's another take on the Apple Watch. I'm eagerly awaiting my >> Series 4. But I'm still sporting a Series 1, and it's so slow as to >> almost be more of a hinderance than a help. So, for me the display >> size had nothing to do with the purchase decision. I want the power >> and speed, which I'm sure will be a big improvement over my series 1. >> I did think about saving some money and getting a series 3, but I >> figured it would just become slow that much faster, so decided to >> spend the money for the 4. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that >>> big phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about >>> these phones is there so much better design. You don’t need a >>> honking big thing to get a nice large display these days. I think >>> that is to be cheered not lamented. How did your friend Carrie that >>> monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My regret is that >>> Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller form >>> factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >>>> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >>>> >>>> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >>>> expected, there were almost no customers. >>>> >>>> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >>>> enthusiastic Apple representative. >>>> >>>> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me >>>> really wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch >>>> display size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not >>>> ready for Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to >>>> purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow me, enough. >>>> >>>> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first >>>> modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was >>>> 6.3 inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used >>>> it, I felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. >>>> I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >>>> >>>> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. >>>> It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a >>>> phone and a tablet computer. >>>> >>>> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
My Series 1 screen popped off. I suspect due to battery swelling. Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli -Original Message- From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:50 AM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor I can't wait! My series 1 is getting on my last nerve any more. lol Cheers, Donna > On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:14 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Donna, > > You are going to absolutely adore your series 4. Other than its size, I was > amazed at how much faster it appeared to function, in the short time that I > played with it, than even the Series 2. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:35 PM > To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > And here's another take on the Apple Watch. I'm eagerly awaiting my Series > 4. But I'm still sporting a Series 1, and it's so slow as to almost be more > of a hinderance than a help. So, for me the display size had nothing to do > with the purchase decision. I want the power and speed, which I'm sure will > be a big improvement over my series 1. I did think about saving some money > and getting a series 3, but I figured it would just become slow that much > faster, so decided to spend the money for the 4. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big >> phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones >> is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a >> nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. >> How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a >> pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like >> a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >>> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >>> >>> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >>> expected, there were almost no customers. >>> >>> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >>> enthusiastic Apple representative. >>> >>> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really >>> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display >>> size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for >>> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 >>> S Max if it could wow me, enough. >>> >>> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first >>> modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 >>> inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I >>> felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. >>> I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >>> >>> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. >>> It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a >>> phone and a tablet computer. >>> >>> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time >>> with my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >>> >>> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like >>> Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making >>> the Mega. >>> >>> >>> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I >>> suppose, on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same >>> huge form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, >>> believe it or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is >>> almost identical to my 8 Plus. >>> >>> I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the >>> Apple sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical >>> attention. >>> >>> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
I should have my watch in my hands tomorrow. Excited about it, one of the only apple things I can be excited about anyways. Mark I remember that phone loved it. I prefer bigger devices myself, and I want them to feel big. My mom was kind of upset when she noticed that her x max was pretty much the same size as her 8plus she had. I use to have a note myself and loved the fact that it took up a fair bit of space. Putting your phone in your back pocket um that's not me. My phone is normally in my front pocket or in a clip. I can't ever recall putting my phone in my back pocket. On 9/23/18, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: > I can't wait! My series 1 is getting on my last nerve any more. lol > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:14 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Donna, >> >> You are going to absolutely adore your series 4. Other than its size, I >> was amazed at how much faster it appeared to function, in the short time >> that I played with it, than even the Series 2. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:35 PM >> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor >> >> And here's another take on the Apple Watch. I'm eagerly awaiting my >> Series 4. But I'm still sporting a Series 1, and it's so slow as to >> almost be more of a hinderance than a help. So, for me the display size >> had nothing to do with the purchase decision. I want the power and speed, >> which I'm sure will be a big improvement over my series 1. I did think >> about saving some money and getting a series 3, but I figured it would >> just become slow that much faster, so decided to spend the money for the >> 4. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big >>> phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these >>> phones is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing >>> to get a nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not >>> lamented. How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit >>> into a pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the >>> people who like a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my >>> opinion. Smile. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >>>> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >>>> >>>> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >>>> expected, there were almost no customers. >>>> >>>> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >>>> enthusiastic Apple representative. >>>> >>>> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really >>>> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display >>>> size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for >>>> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 >>>> S Max if it could wow me, enough. >>>> >>>> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first >>>> modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 >>>> inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I >>>> felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. >>>> I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >>>> >>>> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. >>>> It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a >>>> phone and a tablet computer. >>>> >>>> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time >>>> with my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >>>> >>>> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like >>>> Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped >>>> making the Mega. >>>> >>>> >>>> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the sto
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
I can't wait! My series 1 is getting on my last nerve any more. lol Cheers, Donna > On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:14 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Donna, > > You are going to absolutely adore your series 4. Other than its size, I was > amazed at how much faster it appeared to function, in the short time that I > played with it, than even the Series 2. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:35 PM > To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor > > And here's another take on the Apple Watch. I'm eagerly awaiting my Series > 4. But I'm still sporting a Series 1, and it's so slow as to almost be more > of a hinderance than a help. So, for me the display size had nothing to do > with the purchase decision. I want the power and speed, which I'm sure will > be a big improvement over my series 1. I did think about saving some money > and getting a series 3, but I figured it would just become slow that much > faster, so decided to spend the money for the 4. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big >> phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones >> is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a >> nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. >> How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a >> pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like >> a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >>> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >>> >>> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >>> expected, there were almost no customers. >>> >>> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >>> enthusiastic Apple representative. >>> >>> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really >>> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display >>> size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for >>> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 >>> S Max if it could wow me, enough. >>> >>> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first >>> modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 >>> inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I >>> felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. >>> I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >>> >>> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. >>> It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a >>> phone and a tablet computer. >>> >>> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time >>> with my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >>> >>> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like >>> Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making >>> the Mega. >>> >>> >>> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I >>> suppose, on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same >>> huge form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, >>> believe it or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is >>> almost identical to my 8 Plus. >>> >>> I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the >>> Apple sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical >>> attention. >>> >>> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of >>> the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would >>> be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I >>> was counting on it. >>> >>> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much >>> better the display is and how much f
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
I wonder if there’ll be a smaller phone coming out early next year. On Friday I was comparing the se with 6s as I wanted to make sure of some facts before selling my 6s, and I discovered the se came out in March of the following year. All the best Angie > On 23 Sep 2018, at 03:27, Mary Otten wrote: > > As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone > looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is > there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice > large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did > your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My > regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller > form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended >> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >> >> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, >> there were almost no customers. >> >> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic >> Apple representative. >> >> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted >> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size. As you >> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I >> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow >> me, enough. >> >> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern >> phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. Its >> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was >> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just couldn't stop >> grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >> >> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It felt, >> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet >> computer. >> >> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my >> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >> >> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android >> enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega. >> >> >> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on >> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on >> the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it or not, the actual >> body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus. >> >> I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales >> rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention. >> >> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 >> S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, >> much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I was counting on >> it. >> >> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better >> the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!. >> >> All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from >> my beloved 8 Plus. >> >> As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size >> difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new >> watch. >> >> Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays >> without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a >> let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least, >> it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse, >> set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return. >> >> Mark >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Yeah Mark I was trying to get my hands on one today to have a look at but no retail store in my city has a demo version yet and none of them have real devices out for the public to view. Also with the 749 NZ dollar price, I might wait 6 months and see what happens incase they bring the LTE model out here in NZ, Currently there is no word but they didn't have the series 3 model NZ mobile providers don’t' want to have these second devices for some reason. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 4:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor Donna, You are going to absolutely adore your series 4. Other than its size, I was amazed at how much faster it appeared to function, in the short time that I played with it, than even the Series 2. Mark -Original Message- From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:35 PM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor And here's another take on the Apple Watch. I'm eagerly awaiting my Series 4. But I'm still sporting a Series 1, and it's so slow as to almost be more of a hinderance than a help. So, for me the display size had nothing to do with the purchase decision. I want the power and speed, which I'm sure will be a big improvement over my series 1. I did think about saving some money and getting a series 3, but I figured it would just become slow that much faster, so decided to spend the money for the 4. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone > looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is > there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice > large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did > your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My > regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller > form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >> >> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >> expected, there were almost no customers. >> >> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >> enthusiastic Apple representative. >> >> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really >> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display >> size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for >> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 >> S Max if it could wow me, enough. >> >> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first >> modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 >> inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I >> felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. >> I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >> >> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. >> It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a >> phone and a tablet computer. >> >> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time >> with my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >> >> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like >> Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making >> the Mega. >> >> >> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I >> suppose, on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same >> huge form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, >> believe it or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost >> identical to my 8 Plus. >> >> I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the >> Apple sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical >> attention. >> >> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of >> the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would >> be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hi Mark, Yeah I have had a plus sized phone before, it ws the 7+. I'm total so didn't get the increased resolution screen size, But it was a good size for the keyboard and my big fingers However I'm now use to the X and found it more difficult to type on the XS Max, But a real reason for me to not update is the pricing of the devices here in NZ, The XS 256 GB device is 2200 nZ dollars The prices just go up majorily from there. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 4:22 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor Hello Simon, You make an excellent point. You know, I do like to watch old episodes of the Twilight Zone and Star Trek on my 8 Plus. I can enjoy the video easily enough, most of the time. Yesterday, I had the sales person play a few videos and, no doubt because of my poor vision, I did not really notice an increase in frame size. Doubtless a sighted person would definitely notice the increase in display quality but to me, it was undetectable. The display would have to be much larger in order for me to find it easier to see. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 8:18 PM To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor I thought the same way until I actually got to look at the new devices yesterday and all I can say is that they are simply the same feel to that of the likes of the 7 and 7+. They really or at least to me don't feel that large, But yet the increased screen size isn't something we the blind can use due to it being more of a visual increase rather than a physical increase. The edge to edge would be great if you were watching videos etc -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 2:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not > intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. > > Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I > expected, there were almost no customers. > > The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very > enthusiastic Apple representative. > > Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really > wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display > size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for > Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 > S Max if it could wow me, enough. > > Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern > phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. > Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as > though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just > couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. > > It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It > felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone > and a tablet computer. > > Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with > my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) > > I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like > Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making > the Mega. > > > So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, > on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge > form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it > or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical > to my 8 Plus. > > I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple > sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical > attention. > > Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hello Simon, You make an excellent point. You know, I do like to watch old episodes of the Twilight Zone and Star Trek on my 8 Plus. I can enjoy the video easily enough, most of the time. Yesterday, I had the sales person play a few videos and, no doubt because of my poor vision, I did not really notice an increase in frame size. Doubtless a sighted person would definitely notice the increase in display quality but to me, it was undetectable. The display would have to be much larger in order for me to find it easier to see. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 8:18 PM To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor I thought the same way until I actually got to look at the new devices yesterday and all I can say is that they are simply the same feel to that of the likes of the 7 and 7+. They really or at least to me don't feel that large, But yet the increased screen size isn't something we the blind can use due to it being more of a visual increase rather than a physical increase. The edge to edge would be great if you were watching videos etc -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 2:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not > intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. > > Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I > expected, there were almost no customers. > > The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very > enthusiastic Apple representative. > > Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really > wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display > size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for > Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 > S Max if it could wow me, enough. > > Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern > phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. > Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as > though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just > couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. > > It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It > felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone > and a tablet computer. > > Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with > my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) > > I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like > Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making > the Mega. > > > So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, > on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge > form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it > or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical > to my 8 Plus. > > I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple > sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical > attention. > > Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of > the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would > be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I > was counting on it. > > The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much > better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, > blah!. > > All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S > Max from my beloved 8 Plus. > > As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size > difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a > new watch. > &
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Donna, You are going to absolutely adore your series 4. Other than its size, I was amazed at how much faster it appeared to function, in the short time that I played with it, than even the Series 2. Mark -Original Message- From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:35 PM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor And here's another take on the Apple Watch. I'm eagerly awaiting my Series 4. But I'm still sporting a Series 1, and it's so slow as to almost be more of a hinderance than a help. So, for me the display size had nothing to do with the purchase decision. I want the power and speed, which I'm sure will be a big improvement over my series 1. I did think about saving some money and getting a series 3, but I figured it would just become slow that much faster, so decided to spend the money for the 4. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone > looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is > there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice > large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did > your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My > regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller > form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not >> intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >> >> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I >> expected, there were almost no customers. >> >> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very >> enthusiastic Apple representative. >> >> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really >> wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display >> size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for >> Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 >> S Max if it could wow me, enough. >> >> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first >> modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 >> inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I >> felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. >> I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >> >> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. >> It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a >> phone and a tablet computer. >> >> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time >> with my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >> >> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like >> Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making >> the Mega. >> >> >> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I >> suppose, on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same >> huge form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, >> believe it or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost >> identical to my 8 Plus. >> >> I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the >> Apple sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical >> attention. >> >> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of >> the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would >> be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I >> was counting on it. >> >> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much >> better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, >> blah!. >> >> All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S >> Max from my beloved 8 Plus. >> >> As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size >> difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a >> new watch. >> >> Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its >> displays without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, >> t
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hello Mary, Actually, she, my friend that is, carried the Samsung Mega in her purse. As it turned out, she sold it because it proved to be too large for her hands. (smile). Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not > intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. > > Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I > expected, there were almost no customers. > > The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very > enthusiastic Apple representative. > > Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really > wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display > size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for > Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 > S Max if it could wow me, enough. > > Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern > phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. > Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as > though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just > couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. > > It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It > felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone > and a tablet computer. > > Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with > my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) > > I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like > Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making > the Mega. > > > So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, > on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge > form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it > or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical > to my 8 Plus. > > I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple > sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical > attention. > > Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of > the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would > be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I > was counting on it. > > The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much > better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, > blah!. > > All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S > Max from my beloved 8 Plus. > > As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size > difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a > new watch. > > Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays > without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind > of a let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me > at least, it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for > better or worse, set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to > return. > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach > mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach > Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionari
RE: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
I thought the same way until I actually got to look at the new devices yesterday and all I can say is that they are simply the same feel to that of the likes of the 7 and 7+. They really or at least to me don't feel that large, But yet the increased screen size isn't something we the blind can use due to it being more of a visual increase rather than a physical increase. The edge to edge would be great if you were watching videos etc -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 2:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not > intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. > > Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I > expected, there were almost no customers. > > The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very > enthusiastic Apple representative. > > Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really > wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display > size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for > Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 > S Max if it could wow me, enough. > > Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern > phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. > Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as > though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just > couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. > > It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It > felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone > and a tablet computer. > > Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with > my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) > > I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like > Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making > the Mega. > > > So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, > on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge > form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it > or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical > to my 8 Plus. > > I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple > sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical > attention. > > Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of > the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would > be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I > was counting on it. > > The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much > better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, > blah!. > > All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S > Max from my beloved 8 Plus. > > As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size > difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a > new watch. > > Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays > without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind > of a let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me > at least, it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for > better or worse, set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to > return. > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can rea
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
And here's another take on the Apple Watch. I'm eagerly awaiting my Series 4. But I'm still sporting a Series 1, and it's so slow as to almost be more of a hinderance than a help. So, for me the display size had nothing to do with the purchase decision. I want the power and speed, which I'm sure will be a big improvement over my series 1. I did think about saving some money and getting a series 3, but I figured it would just become slow that much faster, so decided to spend the money for the 4. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 22, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone > looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is > there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice > large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did > your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My > regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller > form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended >> to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. >> >> Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, >> there were almost no customers. >> >> The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic >> Apple representative. >> >> Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted >> to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size. As you >> may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I >> discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow >> me, enough. >> >> Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern >> phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. Its >> physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was >> a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just couldn't stop >> grinning, every time I held it in my hand. >> >> It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It felt, >> just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet >> computer. >> >> Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my >> friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) >> >> I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android >> enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega. >> >> >> So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on >> some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on >> the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it or not, the actual >> body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus. >> >> I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales >> rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention. >> >> Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 >> S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, >> much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I was counting on >> it. >> >> The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better >> the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!. >> >> All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from >> my beloved 8 Plus. >> >> As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size >> difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new >> watch. >> >> Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays >> without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a >> let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least, >> it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse, >> set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return. >> >> Mark >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because
Re: Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
As you said, Mark, that was your opinion. I can’t imagine what that big phone looked like. I know I wouldn’t want one. The thing about these phones is there so much better design. You don’t need a honking big thing to get a nice large display these days. I think that is to be cheered not lamented. How did your friend Carrie that monster? Surely, it did not fit into a pocket. My regret is that Apple has apparently abandoned the people who like a smaller form factor. Enough is enough already. Just my opinion. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended > to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. > > Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, > there were almost no customers. > > The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic > Apple representative. > > Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted > to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size. As you > may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I > discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow > me, enough. > > Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern > phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. Its > physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was > a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just couldn't stop > grinning, every time I held it in my hand. > > It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It felt, > just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet > computer. > > Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my > friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) > > I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android > enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega. > > > So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on > some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on > the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it or not, the actual > body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus. > > I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales > rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention. > > Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 > S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, > much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I was counting on > it. > > The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better > the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!. > > All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from > my beloved 8 Plus. > > As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size > difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new > watch. > > Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays > without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a > let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least, > it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse, > set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return. > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than
Mark on iPhone 10 S Max and iWatch Series 4, Form-Factor
Hello Everyone, Let me just say that the following is just my opinion and it is not intended to persuade or dissuade anyone of anything. Yesterday, I went to a remote Best Buy retail store where, as I expected, there were almost no customers. The Apple section was completely deserted except for one very enthusiastic Apple representative. Although I had not fully recognized it myself, some part of me really wanted to be wowed by the 10 S Max in terms of its 6.5 inch display size. As you may recall, I have often stated that I am not ready for Face ID yet, I discovered that I was somewhat open to purchasing a 10 S Max if it could wow me, enough. Five years or so ago, I had a friend who owned one of the first modern phablets, the Samsun Mega. I believe the screen size was 6.3 inches. Its physical size was so large that every time I used it, I felt as though I was a little kid playing with a grown-up's device. I just couldn't stop grinning, every time I held it in my hand. It was huge Yet, despite its size, I really, really liked it. It felt, just as the term phablet implies, like a cross between a phone and a tablet computer. Believe it or not, I found myself finding ways to spend more time with my friend just so I could play with that Samsung Mega. (smile) I almost bought one for myself but, at that time, I just didn't like Android enough to make the investment. Soon after, Samsung stopped making the Mega. So, yesterday, as I entered the Apple section of the store, I suppose, on some subconscious level, I was hoping to see that same huge form-factor on the 10 S Max. It didn't happen. In fact, believe it or not, the actual body, or form-factor of the 10 S Max is almost identical to my 8 Plus. I was so disappointed. I was so disappointed, in fact, that the Apple sales rep thought that I had taken ill and asked if I needed medical attention. Now I know that Apple made it clear as to the physical dimensions of the 10 S Max but, somehow, some way, I thought the form-factor would be larger, much larger than my beloved 8 Plus. In fact, I suppose, I was counting on it. The sales rep, a very nice young man, began his spiel about how much better the display is and how much faster the 10 S Max is, and blah, blah, blah!. All I know is that, when I closed my eyes, I couldn't tell the 10 S Max from my beloved 8 Plus. As for the Apple watch? Same scenario. If there is any major size difference, I couldn't detect it to the point where I wanted to buy a new watch. Now I realize that Apple is simply increasing the size of its displays without increasing the physical form-factors but, for me, this is kind of a let-down. I'm not exactly sure why this is so; perhaps, for me at least, it's the marvelous memory of that Samsung Mega that, for better or worse, set a form-factor size standard to which, one day, I hope to return. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
