Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
Although pages is easier to use in many aspects, i do not like it and that’s 
for one reason and one reason alone: You can’t load a Word document into Pages, 
edit or modify it and then save directly to Word format again, oh no, you’ll 
have to ”export” it into Word. The only formats you can save directly into are 
Apples own and i think text .rtf and possibly .pdf as well. If Apple had done 
what Openoffice does and have Word as a format you could save to directly that 
would be ok, after all i think Openoffice has its own format as well, but alas 
no and that is a deal breaker for me.
/Krister

> 13 okt. 2015 kl. 03:43 skrev Christina C. :
> 
> Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? Or 
> are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am hoping 
> that I can learn one and stick with it. :)
> 
> Christina
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Jamie Pauls]

I don’t find exporting any more difficult than saving. I personally don’t know 
why Apple does not allow for saving as a Word file, but exporting isn’t an 
issue, unless I am missing something here.



Take care and have a great day.
Jamie Pauls
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> On Oct 13, 2015, at 2:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Although pages is easier to use in many aspects, i do not like it and that’s 
> for one reason and one reason alone: You can’t load a Word document into 
> Pages, edit or modify it and then save directly to Word format again, oh no, 
> you’ll have to ”export” it into Word. The only formats you can save directly 
> into are Apples own and i think text .rtf and possibly .pdf as well. If Apple 
> had done what Openoffice does and have Word as a format you could save to 
> directly that would be ok, after all i think Openoffice has its own format as 
> well, but alas no and that is a deal breaker for me.
> /Krister
> 
>> 13 okt. 2015 kl. 03:43 skrev Christina C. :
>> 
>> Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? Or 
>> are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am hoping 
>> that I can learn one and stick with it. :)
>> 
>> Christina
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Phil Halton]

Personally, I do all my word processing in TextEdit, and then transfer that 
draft file into a pages document. I use the pages document to add features that 
are not available in TextEdit such as headers and footers, tables, and some 
formatting as well. I consider the TextEdit as the draft editor, and pages as a 
sort of "rapper", where I can add additional features not available elsewhere. 
This works out well for me.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Oct 12, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? Or 
> are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am hoping 
> that I can learn one and stick with it. :)
> 
> Christina
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Christina,

I use Pages all the time and like it. I use all kinds of formatting, insert 
tables, text boxes and images. There are just a few accessibility problems, 
mostly to do with insufficient information available to VoiceOver.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 13 Oct 2015, at 03:43, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? Or 
> are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am hoping 
> that I can learn one and stick with it. :)
> 
> Christina
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Krister,

Pages, and iWork in general, is Apple’s proprietory word processing format and 
it only saves into Pages format. All other formats require exporting. This is 
normal. Pages is not Word. Why should it save into Word format?

Cheers,

Anne


> On 13 Oct 2015, at 09:58, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Although pages is easier to use in many aspects, i do not like it and that’s 
> for one reason and one reason alone: You can’t load a Word document into 
> Pages, edit or modify it and then save directly to Word format again, oh no, 
> you’ll have to ”export” it into Word. The only formats you can save directly 
> into are Apples own and i think text .rtf and possibly .pdf as well. If Apple 
> had done what Openoffice does and have Word as a format you could save to 
> directly that would be ok, after all i think Openoffice has its own format as 
> well, but alas no and that is a deal breaker for me.
> /Krister
> 
>> 13 okt. 2015 kl. 03:43 skrev Christina C. :
>> 
>> Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? Or 
>> are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am hoping 
>> that I can learn one and stick with it. :)
>> 
>> Christina
>> 
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Nisus kan open pdfs from what i know.
Don’t know about pages or ms word.
/A
> On 11 Oct 2015, at 21:57, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> I read in the recent Nisus newsletter that the latest version - el Capitan 
> compatible - is going to be submitted to the appstore.  It's a nice app but I 
> don't think it supports tables which is a deal for most users.  The only app 
> that supports tables is Pages.  I had great hopes for Ms Word on the mac and 
> took part in beta testing but since it came out of beta,, it had loads of 
> bugs and I ditched it.  I'm talking about Ms Word on the mac not iOS.
>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 17:48, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I would love some opinions about Word Processing on the Mac with Voice Over. 
>>  I seem to remember hearing great stuff about Nisus some time back. I looked 
>> it up in the Mac app store and noticed it hasn’t been updated since 2013. I 
>> also have seem some recent vague discussion on Office 365 for Mac. Of 
>> course, I have heard of pages since it’s made by apple.  I am looking for a 
>> long term solution that is feature rich and easy to use with VoiceOver. I 
>> also need the documents to be easily convertible for people who are on a PC. 
>> Great costumer support is also hoped for. :)  I also think it would be super 
>> to sync with my iDevices or also maybe even transfer to voice Dream Writer 
>> and then maybe back again into the word Processor of choice.
>> 
>> I’d appreciate any advice or shared experiences.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi Anne,
Openoffice has its own proprietary format as well, but it doesn’t force us to 
use it. It would be simple just to have the format menu in the save as dialog 
include word as well but it doesn’t and the result? if you don’t know what you 
do you’ll end up with 2 versions of the same document, one in Apples own format 
which you can edit direct but which no other word processor can do anything 
about and a word document which many word processors including Word of course, 
Openoffice, Libreoffice and possibly a few more can work with.

> 13 okt. 2015 kl. 19:34 skrev Anne Robertson :
> 
> Hello Krister,
> 
> Pages, and iWork in general, is Apple’s proprietory word processing format 
> and it only saves into Pages format. All other formats require exporting. 
> This is normal. Pages is not Word. Why should it save into Word format?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2015, at 09:58, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Although pages is easier to use in many aspects, i do not like it and that’s 
>> for one reason and one reason alone: You can’t load a Word document into 
>> Pages, edit or modify it and then save directly to Word format again, oh no, 
>> you’ll have to ”export” it into Word. The only formats you can save directly 
>> into are Apples own and i think text .rtf and possibly .pdf as well. If 
>> Apple had done what Openoffice does and have Word as a format you could save 
>> to directly that would be ok, after all i think Openoffice has its own 
>> format as well, but alas no and that is a deal breaker for me.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 13 okt. 2015 kl. 03:43 skrev Christina C. :
>>> 
>>> Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? 
>>> Or are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am 
>>> hoping that I can learn one and stick with it. :)
>>> 
>>> Christina
>>> 
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Alwine Hardus]

Hai,
I use textedit and nisus, nisus because you can easily save in many formats and 
also read pdf files.
Alwine
Met vriendelijke groet,

Alwine Hardus





> Op 13 okt. 2015, om 16:10 heeft Phil Halton  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Personally, I do all my word processing in TextEdit, and then transfer that 
> draft file into a pages document. I use the pages document to add features 
> that are not available in TextEdit such as headers and footers, tables, and 
> some formatting as well. I consider the TextEdit as the draft editor, and 
> pages as a sort of "rapper", where I can add additional features not 
> available elsewhere. This works out well for me.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? Or 
>> are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am hoping 
>> that I can learn one and stick with it. :)
>> 
>> Christina
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Krister Ekstrom]

I checked the latest Ms Word and it looks as though something has been fixed 
there. Earlier i wasn’t able at all to read large documents or in fact 
documents over 1 page in length, but now even larger documents can be read. As 
for other bugs i don’t know.
/Krister
> 11 okt. 2015 kl. 21:57 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
> 
> I read in the recent Nisus newsletter that the latest version - el Capitan 
> compatible - is going to be submitted to the appstore.  It's a nice app but I 
> don't think it supports tables which is a deal for most users.  The only app 
> that supports tables is Pages.  I had great hopes for Ms Word on the mac and 
> took part in beta testing but since it came out of beta,, it had loads of 
> bugs and I ditched it.  I'm talking about Ms Word on the mac not iOS.
>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 17:48, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I would love some opinions about Word Processing on the Mac with Voice Over. 
>>  I seem to remember hearing great stuff about Nisus some time back. I looked 
>> it up in the Mac app store and noticed it hasn’t been updated since 2013. I 
>> also have seem some recent vague discussion on Office 365 for Mac. Of 
>> course, I have heard of pages since it’s made by apple.  I am looking for a 
>> long term solution that is feature rich and easy to use with VoiceOver. I 
>> also need the documents to be easily convertible for people who are on a PC. 
>> Great costumer support is also hoped for. :)  I also think it would be super 
>> to sync with my iDevices or also maybe even transfer to voice Dream Writer 
>> and then maybe back again into the word Processor of choice.
>> 
>> I’d appreciate any advice or shared experiences.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi, I’m sorry but i’m not so much into heavy word processing myself so i 
haven’t been able to check into the matter of tables. When i do word processing 
it’s often enough for me to be able to create text with some headers and maybe 
lists.
Sorry i can’t be of more help here.
/Krister

> 12 okt. 2015 kl. 09:58 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
> 
> Have you checked out working with tables in Ms Word on the mac?  it's quite 
> often a deal breaker for many of us who need to be able to access tables.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 12 Oct 2015, at 08:53, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> I checked the latest Ms Word and it looks as though something has been fixed 
>> there. Earlier i wasn’t able at all to read large documents or in fact 
>> documents over 1 page in length, but now even larger documents can be read. 
>> As for other bugs i don’t know.
>> /Krister
>>> 11 okt. 2015 kl. 21:57 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
>>> 
>>> I read in the recent Nisus newsletter that the latest version - el Capitan 
>>> compatible - is going to be submitted to the appstore.  It's a nice app but 
>>> I don't think it supports tables which is a deal for most users.  The only 
>>> app that supports tables is Pages.  I had great hopes for Ms Word on the 
>>> mac and took part in beta testing but since it came out of beta,, it had 
>>> loads of bugs and I ditched it.  I'm talking about Ms Word on the mac not 
>>> iOS.
 On 11 Oct 2015, at 17:48, Christina C.  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I would love some opinions about Word Processing on the Mac with Voice 
 Over.  I seem to remember hearing great stuff about Nisus some time back. 
 I looked it up in the Mac app store and noticed it hasn’t been updated 
 since 2013. I also have seem some recent vague discussion on Office 365 
 for Mac. Of course, I have heard of pages since it’s made by apple.  I am 
 looking for a long term solution that is feature rich and easy to use with 
 VoiceOver. I also need the documents to be easily convertible for people 
 who are on a PC. Great costumer support is also hoped for. :)  I also 
 think it would be super to sync with my iDevices or also maybe even 
 transfer to voice Dream Writer and then maybe back again into the word 
 Processor of choice.
 
 I’d appreciate any advice or shared experiences.
 
 Thanks,
 Christina
 
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Have you checked out working with tables in Ms Word on the mac?  it's quite 
often a deal breaker for many of us who need to be able to access tables.

Andrew
> On 12 Oct 2015, at 08:53, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> I checked the latest Ms Word and it looks as though something has been fixed 
> there. Earlier i wasn’t able at all to read large documents or in fact 
> documents over 1 page in length, but now even larger documents can be read. 
> As for other bugs i don’t know.
> /Krister
>> 11 okt. 2015 kl. 21:57 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
>> 
>> I read in the recent Nisus newsletter that the latest version - el Capitan 
>> compatible - is going to be submitted to the appstore.  It's a nice app but 
>> I don't think it supports tables which is a deal for most users.  The only 
>> app that supports tables is Pages.  I had great hopes for Ms Word on the mac 
>> and took part in beta testing but since it came out of beta,, it had loads 
>> of bugs and I ditched it.  I'm talking about Ms Word on the mac not iOS.
>>> On 11 Oct 2015, at 17:48, Christina C.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I would love some opinions about Word Processing on the Mac with Voice 
>>> Over.  I seem to remember hearing great stuff about Nisus some time back. I 
>>> looked it up in the Mac app store and noticed it hasn’t been updated since 
>>> 2013. I also have seem some recent vague discussion on Office 365 for Mac. 
>>> Of course, I have heard of pages since it’s made by apple.  I am looking 
>>> for a long term solution that is feature rich and easy to use with 
>>> VoiceOver. I also need the documents to be easily convertible for people 
>>> who are on a PC. Great costumer support is also hoped for. :)  I also think 
>>> it would be super to sync with my iDevices or also maybe even transfer to 
>>> voice Dream Writer and then maybe back again into the word Processor of 
>>> choice.
>>> 
>>> I’d appreciate any advice or shared experiences.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

I found that Word didn't seem to expose tables the same way Pages did. 
For instance, even though I'd see tables in the document body, I'd also 
see those tables outside of the document and I'd be able to work with 
them from there. That just confused me. I am not sure if this has been 
changed or not in Pages, since I am no longer using it.


You can work with tables in Word just fine when I was using 2016, but 
both Pages and Word miss one important capability that I need. I can't 
jump to items included in a table of contents. VoiceOver sees them in 
either application, but I can't find any way to use them.


As of yet, I personally don't find these apps efficient or productive 
enough to use them regularly, but that could either be because I just 
suck at using them, or because I need to change the group mode VoiceOver 
is using. Seeing all those items isn't necessarily efficient if you 
don't need to use them, and I feel that with VoiceOver they get in the 
way. Maybe the content chooser and window spots will be of great help here.


Nicolai

On 10/12/2015 4:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi, I’m sorry but i’m not so much into heavy word processing myself so i 
haven’t been able to check into the matter of tables. When i do word processing 
it’s often enough for me to be able to create text with some headers and maybe 
lists.
Sorry i can’t be of more help here.
/Krister


12 okt. 2015 kl. 09:58 skrev Andrew Lamanche :

Have you checked out working with tables in Ms Word on the mac?  it's quite 
often a deal breaker for many of us who need to be able to access tables.

Andrew

On 12 Oct 2015, at 08:53, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

I checked the latest Ms Word and it looks as though something has been fixed 
there. Earlier i wasn’t able at all to read large documents or in fact 
documents over 1 page in length, but now even larger documents can be read. As 
for other bugs i don’t know.
/Krister

11 okt. 2015 kl. 21:57 skrev Andrew Lamanche :

I read in the recent Nisus newsletter that the latest version - el Capitan 
compatible - is going to be submitted to the appstore.  It's a nice app but I 
don't think it supports tables which is a deal for most users.  The only app 
that supports tables is Pages.  I had great hopes for Ms Word on the mac and 
took part in beta testing but since it came out of beta,, it had loads of bugs 
and I ditched it.  I'm talking about Ms Word on the mac not iOS.

On 11 Oct 2015, at 17:48, Christina C.  wrote:

Hello,

I would love some opinions about Word Processing on the Mac with Voice Over.  I 
seem to remember hearing great stuff about Nisus some time back. I looked it up 
in the Mac app store and noticed it hasn’t been updated since 2013. I also have 
seem some recent vague discussion on Office 365 for Mac. Of course, I have 
heard of pages since it’s made by apple.  I am looking for a long term solution 
that is feature rich and easy to use with VoiceOver. I also need the documents 
to be easily convertible for people who are on a PC. Great costumer support is 
also hoped for. :)  I also think it would be super to sync with my iDevices or 
also maybe even transfer to voice Dream Writer and then maybe back again into 
the word Processor of choice.

I’d appreciate any advice or shared experiences.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Christina C.]

Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? Or 
are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am hoping that 
I can learn one and stick with it. :)

Christina

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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Jamie Pauls]

I personally use and like Pages, although I use Word under Windows for some 
tasks. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I apologize for my confusion, are you guys saying that you use pages? Or 
> are you guys saying that you don’t like any of the solutions? I am hoping 
> that I can learn one and stick with it. :)
> 
> Christina
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Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Christina C.]

Hello,

I would love some opinions about Word Processing on the Mac with Voice Over.  I 
seem to remember hearing great stuff about Nisus some time back. I looked it up 
in the Mac app store and noticed it hasn’t been updated since 2013. I also have 
seem some recent vague discussion on Office 365 for Mac. Of course, I have 
heard of pages since it’s made by apple.  I am looking for a long term solution 
that is feature rich and easy to use with VoiceOver. I also need the documents 
to be easily convertible for people who are on a PC. Great costumer support is 
also hoped for. :)  I also think it would be super to sync with my iDevices or 
also maybe even transfer to voice Dream Writer and then maybe back again into 
the word Processor of choice.

I’d appreciate any advice or shared experiences.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Nisus, Word, or pages?

[Andrew Lamanche]

I read in the recent Nisus newsletter that the latest version - el Capitan 
compatible - is going to be submitted to the appstore.  It's a nice app but I 
don't think it supports tables which is a deal for most users.  The only app 
that supports tables is Pages.  I had great hopes for Ms Word on the mac and 
took part in beta testing but since it came out of beta,, it had loads of bugs 
and I ditched it.  I'm talking about Ms Word on the mac not iOS.
> On 11 Oct 2015, at 17:48, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would love some opinions about Word Processing on the Mac with Voice Over.  
> I seem to remember hearing great stuff about Nisus some time back. I looked 
> it up in the Mac app store and noticed it hasn’t been updated since 2013. I 
> also have seem some recent vague discussion on Office 365 for Mac. Of course, 
> I have heard of pages since it’s made by apple.  I am looking for a long term 
> solution that is feature rich and easy to use with VoiceOver. I also need the 
> documents to be easily convertible for people who are on a PC. Great costumer 
> support is also hoped for. :)  I also think it would be super to sync with my 
> iDevices or also maybe even transfer to voice Dream Writer and then maybe 
> back again into the word Processor of choice.
> 
> I’d appreciate any advice or shared experiences.
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina
> 
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