Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

[Julie Rattray]

So far I haven’t had an issue but of course that doesn’t mean I won’t you are 
right 

> On 3 Jun 2019, at 23:43, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> That might well be true, as long as Pages supports all of the necessary 
> features of the original Microsoft Word document. When I last read a review, 
> Pages didn’t support everything. My impression is that LibreOffice is more 
> comprehensive in its feature support, but that isn’t accessible on the Mac. 
> (It is somewhat under Linux, but not including comments and change tracking.)
>  
> From: Macvisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Julie Rattray 
> mailto:julierattra...@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: Macvisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Date: Monday, June 3, 2019 at 08:34
> To: Macvisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.
>  
> Hi,
>  
> If you use pages it will convert a word doc with comments into pages and when 
> you export back to word it retains comments so it is easier, I think to do 
> all this kind of editing in pages. 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jun 2019, at 13:06, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> My experience is that comments and change tracking can crash Microsoft Word 
>> and both JAWS and NVDA, in the Windows environment. I’ve lost work as a 
>> result. This is also an area in which Microsoft Word for Mac could benefit 
>> from accessibility improvements, although, on the positive side, it doesn’t 
>> seem to crash as its Windows counterpart does.
>>  
>> I tend to avoid word processors when writing my own documents, but I 
>> sometimes need to collaborate on Microsoft Word files, or to submit 
>> documents in that format.
>>  
>> From: Macvisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Leo Bado 
>> mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>>
>> Reply-To: Macvisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Date: Monday, June 3, 2019 at 06:15
>> To: Macvisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.
>>  
>> Hi,
>> Well I am grateful as well for this feature: I mean it is fantastic. 
>> Yesterday I was trying to make comments and reply in a word document, but 
>> neither jaws or n v d a were working as expected in office 365. It might 
>> have been that there were so many comments and insertions that both screen 
>> readers crushed out.  Therefore, I turned on my mac and everything was 
>> smooth sailing from that point on. The only thing that I find a bit annoying 
>>  is that when I want to read the document with no distractions, voice over 
>> keeps verbalizing the first comment in an annotation, but I guess I just 
>> will have to copy the text on textedit and turn back to pages each time I 
>> want to make a new comment or reply to a previous one.
>> 
>> "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 
>> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
>> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. 
>> All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
>>  
>>  
>> Leo Bado
>> El 03/06/2019 a las 2:16, Julie Rattray escribió:
>>> Hi, 
>>>  
>>> Never tried turning them off because I was so glad when they started to be 
>>> read out   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Jun 2019, at 15:23, Leo Bado >>> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> My question is simple:
>>>> How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?
>>>>  
>>>> I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under the 
>>>> view menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level as the 
>>>> default verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for something in 
>>>> voice over utilities that can be related to comments or annotations but I 
>>>> haven’t found anything.
>>>>  
>>>> Does someone know how to do this?
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> -- 
>>>> "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 
>>>> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
>>>> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. 
>&

Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

That might well be true, as long as Pages supports all of the necessary 
features of the original Microsoft Word document. When I last read a review, 
Pages didn’t support everything. My impression is that LibreOffice is more 
comprehensive in its feature support, but that isn’t accessible on the Mac. (It 
is somewhat under Linux, but not including comments and change tracking.)

 

From: Macvisionaries  on behalf of Julie 
Rattray 
Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Monday, June 3, 2019 at 08:34
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

 

Hi,

 

If you use pages it will convert a word doc with comments into pages and when 
you export back to word it retains comments so it is easier, I think to do all 
this kind of editing in pages. 



On 3 Jun 2019, at 13:06, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

 

My experience is that comments and change tracking can crash Microsoft Word and 
both JAWS and NVDA, in the Windows environment. I’ve lost work as a result. 
This is also an area in which Microsoft Word for Mac could benefit from 
accessibility improvements, although, on the positive side, it doesn’t seem to 
crash as its Windows counterpart does.

 

I tend to avoid word processors when writing my own documents, but I sometimes 
need to collaborate on Microsoft Word files, or to submit documents in that 
format.

 

From: Macvisionaries  on behalf of Leo Bado 

Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Monday, June 3, 2019 at 06:15
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

 

Hi,

Well I am grateful as well for this feature: I mean it is fantastic. Yesterday 
I was trying to make comments and reply in a word document, but neither jaws or 
n v d a were working as expected in office 365. It might have been that there 
were so many comments and insertions that both screen readers crushed out.  
Therefore, I turned on my mac and everything was smooth sailing from that point 
on. The only thing that I find a bit annoying  is that when I want to read the 
document with no distractions, voice over keeps verbalizing the first comment 
in an annotation, but I guess I just will have to copy the text on textedit and 
turn back to pages each time I want to make a new comment or reply to a 
previous one.


"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. 
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
 
 
Leo Bado
El 03/06/2019 a las 2:16, Julie Rattray escribió:

Hi, 

 

Never tried turning them off because I was so glad when they started to be read 
out   




On 1 Jun 2019, at 15:23, Leo Bado  wrote:

 

Hello everyone,

My question is simple:

How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?

 

I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under the view 
menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level as the default 
verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for something in voice over 
utilities that can be related to comments or annotations but I haven’t found 
anything.

 

Does someone know how to do this?

 

 

 

 
-- 
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. 
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
 
 
Leo Bado
 

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Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

[Julie Rattray]

Hi,

If you use pages it will convert a word doc with comments into pages and when 
you export back to word it retains comments so it is easier, I think to do all 
this kind of editing in pages. 

> On 3 Jun 2019, at 13:06, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> My experience is that comments and change tracking can crash Microsoft Word 
> and both JAWS and NVDA, in the Windows environment. I’ve lost work as a 
> result. This is also an area in which Microsoft Word for Mac could benefit 
> from accessibility improvements, although, on the positive side, it doesn’t 
> seem to crash as its Windows counterpart does.
>  
> I tend to avoid word processors when writing my own documents, but I 
> sometimes need to collaborate on Microsoft Word files, or to submit documents 
> in that format.
>  
> From: Macvisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Leo Bado 
> mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>>
> Reply-To: Macvisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Date: Monday, June 3, 2019 at 06:15
> To: Macvisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.
>  
> Hi,
> Well I am grateful as well for this feature: I mean it is fantastic. 
> Yesterday I was trying to make comments and reply in a word document, but 
> neither jaws or n v d a were working as expected in office 365. It might have 
> been that there were so many comments and insertions that both screen readers 
> crushed out.  Therefore, I turned on my mac and everything was smooth sailing 
> from that point on. The only thing that I find a bit annoying  is that when I 
> want to read the document with no distractions, voice over keeps verbalizing 
> the first comment in an annotation, but I guess I just will have to copy the 
> text on textedit and turn back to pages each time I want to make a new 
> comment or reply to a previous one.
> 
> "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 
> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. 
> All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
>  
>  
> Leo Bado
> El 03/06/2019 a las 2:16, Julie Rattray escribió:
>> Hi, 
>>  
>> Never tried turning them off because I was so glad when they started to be 
>> read out   
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Jun 2019, at 15:23, Leo Bado >> <mailto:leobado1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> My question is simple:
>>> How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?
>>>  
>>> I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under the 
>>> view menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level as the 
>>> default verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for something in 
>>> voice over utilities that can be related to comments or annotations but I 
>>> haven’t found anything.
>>>  
>>> Does someone know how to do this?
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -- 
>>> "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 
>>> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
>>> I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. 
>>> All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Leo Bado
>>>  
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Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

My experience is that comments and change tracking can crash Microsoft Word and 
both JAWS and NVDA, in the Windows environment. I’ve lost work as a result. 
This is also an area in which Microsoft Word for Mac could benefit from 
accessibility improvements, although, on the positive side, it doesn’t seem to 
crash as its Windows counterpart does.

 

I tend to avoid word processors when writing my own documents, but I sometimes 
need to collaborate on Microsoft Word files, or to submit documents in that 
format.

 

From: Macvisionaries  on behalf of Leo Bado 

Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Monday, June 3, 2019 at 06:15
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

 

Hi,

Well I am grateful as well for this feature: I mean it is fantastic. Yesterday 
I was trying to make comments and reply in a word document, but neither jaws or 
n v d a were working as expected in office 365. It might have been that there 
were so many comments and insertions that both screen readers crushed out.  
Therefore, I turned on my mac and everything was smooth sailing from that point 
on. The only thing that I find a bit annoying  is that when I want to read the 
document with no distractions, voice over keeps verbalizing the first comment 
in an annotation, but I guess I just will have to copy the text on textedit and 
turn back to pages each time I want to make a new comment or reply to a 
previous one.


"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. 
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
 
 
Leo Bado
El 03/06/2019 a las 2:16, Julie Rattray escribió:

Hi, 

 

Never tried turning them off because I was so glad when they started to be read 
out   



On 1 Jun 2019, at 15:23, Leo Bado  wrote:

 

Hello everyone,

My question is simple:

How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?

 

I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under the view 
menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level as the default 
verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for something in voice over 
utilities that can be related to comments or annotations but I haven’t found 
anything.

 

Does someone know how to do this?

 

 

 

 
-- 
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. 
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. 
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."
 
 
Leo Bado
 

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Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

[Leo Bado]

Hi,

Well I am grateful as well for this feature: I mean it is fantastic. 
Yesterday I was trying to make comments and reply in a word document, 
but neither jaws or n v d a were working as expected in office 365. It 
might have been that there were so many comments and insertions that 
both screen readers crushed out.Therefore, I turned on my mac and 
everything was smooth sailing from that point on. The only thing that I 
find a bit annoying is that when I want to read the document with no 
distractions, voice over keeps verbalizing the first comment in an 
annotation, but I guess I just will have to copy the text on textedit 
and turn back to pages each time I want to make a new comment or reply 
to a previous one.


"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."


Leo Bado

El 03/06/2019 a las 2:16, Julie Rattray escribió:

Hi,

Never tried turning them off because I was so glad when they started 
to be read out


On 1 Jun 2019, at 15:23, Leo Bado > wrote:


Hello everyone,

My question is simple:

How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?


I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under 
the view menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level 
as the default verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for 
something in voice over utilities that can be related to comments or 
annotations but I haven’t found anything.



Does someone know how to do this?





--
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."


Leo Bado

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Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

[Leo Bado]

Hi Anne,
from now on, I guess that's what I'll have to do since I can't think of 
a better idea.

Thanks.

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."


Leo Bado

El 03/06/2019 a las 2:33, Anne Robertson escribió:

Hello Leo,

What I do when reading through a translation with change tracking on, 
is to select all and paste into a TextEdit document. That way, I can 
read through the whole thing as it would appear with all the changes 
accepted.

Cheers,

Anne




On 1 Jun 2019, at 16:23, Leo Bado > wrote:


Hello everyone,

My question is simple:

How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?


I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under 
the view menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level 
as the default verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for 
something in voice over utilities that can be related to comments or 
annotations but I haven’t found anything.



Does someone know how to do this?





--
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."


Leo Bado

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Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Leo,

What I do when reading through a translation with change tracking on, is to 
select all and paste into a TextEdit document. That way, I can read through the 
whole thing as it would appear with all the changes accepted.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 1 Jun 2019, at 16:23, Leo Bado  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> My question is simple:
> 
> How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?
> 
>  
> I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under the view 
> menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level as the default 
> verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for something in voice over 
> utilities that can be related to comments or annotations but I haven’t found 
> anything.
> 
>  
> Does someone know how to do this?
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -- 
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> Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. 
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Re: Voice Over and annotations in pages.

[Julie Rattray]

Hi,

Never tried turning them off because I was so glad when they started to be read 
out   

> On 1 Jun 2019, at 15:23, Leo Bado  > wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> My question is simple:
> 
> How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?
> 
>  
> I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under the view 
> menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level as the default 
> verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for something in voice over 
> utilities that can be related to comments or annotations but I haven’t found 
> anything.
> 
>  
> Does someone know how to do this?
> 
>  
>  
>  
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Voice Over and annotations in pages.

[Leo Bado]

Hello everyone,

My question is simple:

How to stop voice over from reading comments and annotations on pages?

I’ve tried checking all the options related to hiding comments under the 
view menu, but nothing seems to work. I use low verbosity level as the 
default verbosity for voice over, and I’ve already looked for something 
in voice over utilities that can be related to comments or annotations 
but I haven’t found anything.


Does someone know how to do this?

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Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."


Leo Bado

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