Re: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

2018-02-16 Thread Daniel Miller
What you guys need to realize is, Apple intended the speaker to be smart in 
terms of the spatial awareness capabilities. Meaning it sounds great no matter 
where you place it. Yes, I think we all would like Siri to be smarter, but 
that’s not their vision for the speaker.

Sent from my iPhone  

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 6:48 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would rather buy some nice equipment than spend my money on a home
> pod. Seriously come on I want a smart speaker not a speaker that
> pretends to be smart, and only gives me really good audio.
> 
>> On 2/16/18, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It seems like entirely too many people are falling for the nonsense in the
>> tech press which is basically saying that the HomePod is meant to compete
>> with cheap devices like the echo. It isn’t. It is marketed to people who are
>> in the apple ecosystem want really good sound and don’t want to screw around
>> with extra devices etc. I don’t own one. I might get a stereo pair at some
>> point, but not now. I like the fact that you can get it and try it and if
>> you don’t like it, take it back. Depending on what Apple eventually does as
>> far as opening it up to other apps like Spotify, and how the whole airplay
>> thing works out, it could be a really good set up. I have aging big stereo
>> equipment. So this is an attractive looking deal for me in the hopefully not
>> too distant future. I would never consider replacing my good equipment with
>> anything like an Amazon echo. Just not.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not really laughing here but
>>> 
>>> Why is it that apples product range sounds like it's going backwards
>>> rather than forwards
>>> 
>>> If I was buying one of these home speaker units I think I'd be going
>>> amazon echo if anything
>>> 
>>> Apple sound like they are really struggling to move ahead
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 4:12 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge
>>> 
>>> HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring By Chaim Gartenberg
>>> 
>>> Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and
>>> it turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside
>>> from its lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the
>>> HomePod can damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including
>>> Wirecutter and Pocket Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of
>>> wooden surfaces can cause a white ring to form.
>>> 
>>> Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can
>>> improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood
>>> surface," with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the
>>> surface with the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white
>>> rings don't fade.
>>> 
>>> Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters
>>> fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the
>>> sound), it's not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a
>>> cloth underneath it, either.
>>> 
>>> Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it
>>> secretes a deadly acid that destroys your furniture
>>> https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter_medi
>>> um=social_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
>>> pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .
>>> 
>>> Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod,
>>> explaining that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a
>>> vibration-dampening silicone base to leave mild marks when placed on some
>>> wooden surfaces." According to the support page, the marks are apparently
>>> caused by "oils diffusing between the silicone base and the table
>>> surface." In addition to the previous stated advice about hoping the marks
>>> go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also said for customers who are
>>> concerned about the issue, "We recommen

Re: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

2018-02-16 Thread lenron brown
I would rather buy some nice equipment than spend my money on a home
pod. Seriously come on I want a smart speaker not a speaker that
pretends to be smart, and only gives me really good audio.

On 2/16/18, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems like entirely too many people are falling for the nonsense in the
> tech press which is basically saying that the HomePod is meant to compete
> with cheap devices like the echo. It isn’t. It is marketed to people who are
> in the apple ecosystem want really good sound and don’t want to screw around
> with extra devices etc. I don’t own one. I might get a stereo pair at some
> point, but not now. I like the fact that you can get it and try it and if
> you don’t like it, take it back. Depending on what Apple eventually does as
> far as opening it up to other apps like Spotify, and how the whole airplay
> thing works out, it could be a really good set up. I have aging big stereo
> equipment. So this is an attractive looking deal for me in the hopefully not
> too distant future. I would never consider replacing my good equipment with
> anything like an Amazon echo. Just not.
> Mary
>
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 16, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not really laughing here but
>>
>> Why is it that apples product range sounds like it's going backwards
>> rather than forwards
>>
>> If I was buying one of these home speaker units I think I'd be going
>> amazon echo if anything
>>
>> Apple sound like they are really struggling to move ahead
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 4:12 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge
>>
>> HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring By Chaim Gartenberg
>>
>> Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and
>> it turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside
>> from its lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the
>> HomePod can damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including
>> Wirecutter and Pocket Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of
>> wooden surfaces can cause a white ring to form.
>>
>> Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can
>> improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood
>> surface," with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the
>> surface with the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white
>> rings don't fade.
>>
>> Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters
>> fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the
>> sound), it's not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a
>> cloth underneath it, either.
>>
>> Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it
>> secretes a deadly acid that destroys your furniture
>> https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter_medi
>> um=social_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
>> pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .
>>
>> Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod,
>> explaining that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a
>> vibration-dampening silicone base to leave mild marks when placed on some
>> wooden surfaces." According to the support page, the marks are apparently
>> caused by "oils diffusing between the silicone base and the table
>> surface." In addition to the previous stated advice about hoping the marks
>> go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also said for customers who are
>> concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing your HomePod on a
>> different surface."
>>
>> Update February 14th, 4:00pm: Added additional information about placing
>> the HomePod on soft surfaces. Updated post to reflect new information from
>> Apple's official support page for the HomePod.
>>
>> Original Article at:
>> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-whi
>> te-ring-wooden-table-staining-issue-problem
>>
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Re: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

2018-02-16 Thread Mary Otten
It seems like entirely too many people are falling for the nonsense in the tech 
press which is basically saying that the HomePod is meant to compete with cheap 
devices like the echo. It isn’t. It is marketed to people who are in the apple 
ecosystem want really good sound and don’t want to screw around with extra 
devices etc. I don’t own one. I might get a stereo pair at some point, but not 
now. I like the fact that you can get it and try it and if you don’t like it, 
take it back. Depending on what Apple eventually does as far as opening it up 
to other apps like Spotify, and how the whole airplay thing works out, it could 
be a really good set up. I have aging big stereo equipment. So this is an 
attractive looking deal for me in the hopefully not too distant future. I would 
never consider replacing my good equipment with anything like an Amazon echo. 
Just not.
Mary

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm not really laughing here but 
> 
> Why is it that apples product range sounds like it's going backwards rather 
> than forwards 
> 
> If I was buying one of these home speaker units I think I'd be going amazon 
> echo if anything 
> 
> Apple sound like they are really struggling to move ahead 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 4:12 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge
> 
> HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring By Chaim Gartenberg
> 
> Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and it 
> turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside from its 
> lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the HomePod can 
> damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including Wirecutter and 
> Pocket Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of wooden surfaces can 
> cause a white ring to form. 
> 
> Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can 
> improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood 
> surface," with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the 
> surface with the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white rings 
> don't fade. 
> 
> Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters 
> fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the sound), 
> it's not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a cloth 
> underneath it, either. 
> 
> Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it secretes 
> a deadly acid that destroys your furniture 
> https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter_medi
> um=social_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
> pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .
> 
> Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod, explaining 
> that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a vibration-dampening silicone 
> base to leave mild marks when placed on some wooden surfaces." According to 
> the support page, the marks are apparently caused by "oils diffusing between 
> the silicone base and the table surface." In addition to the previous stated 
> advice about hoping the marks go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also 
> said for customers who are concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing 
> your HomePod on a different surface."
> 
> Update February 14th, 4:00pm: Added additional information about placing the 
> HomePod on soft surfaces. Updated post to reflect new information from 
> Apple's official support page for the HomePod. 
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-whi
> te-ring-wooden-table-staining-issue-problem
> 
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RE: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

2018-02-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
I'm not really laughing here but 

Why is it that apples product range sounds like it's going backwards rather 
than forwards 

If I was buying one of these home speaker units I think I'd be going amazon 
echo if anything 

Apple sound like they are really struggling to move ahead 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 4:12 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring By Chaim Gartenberg

Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and it 
turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside from its 
lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the HomePod can 
damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including Wirecutter and Pocket 
Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of wooden surfaces can cause a 
white ring to form. 

Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can 
improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood surface," 
with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the surface with 
the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white rings don't fade. 

Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters fire 
down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the sound), it's 
not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a cloth underneath 
it, either. 

Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it secretes a 
deadly acid that destroys your furniture 
https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter_medi
um=social_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .

Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod, explaining 
that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a vibration-dampening silicone 
base to leave mild marks when placed on some wooden surfaces." According to the 
support page, the marks are apparently caused by "oils diffusing between the 
silicone base and the table surface." In addition to the previous stated advice 
about hoping the marks go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also said for 
customers who are concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing your HomePod 
on a different surface."

Update February 14th, 4:00pm: Added additional information about placing the 
HomePod on soft surfaces. Updated post to reflect new information from Apple's 
official support page for the HomePod. 

Original Article at:
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-whi
te-ring-wooden-table-staining-issue-problem

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HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring, The Verge

2018-02-14 Thread M. Taylor
HomePods are staining wooden tables with a white ring
By Chaim Gartenberg

Apple's HomePod is a great sounding but ideologically flawed speaker, and it
turns out there's another major problem with the smart speaker aside from
its lack of support for Spotify. Apparently the silicone base of the HomePod
can damage wooden furniture, with multiple outlets (including Wirecutter and
Pocket Lint) reporting that leaving the speaker on top of wooden surfaces
can cause a white ring to form. 

Apple has confirmed the issue to Wirecutter, stating that "the marks can
improve over several days after the speaker is removed from the wood
surface," with the company also recommending that users "try cleaning the
surface with the manufacturer's suggested oiling method" if the white rings
don't fade. 

Given that HomePods aren't meant to be put on a soft surface (the tweeters
fire down, so putting it on cloth messes with the reflectivity of the
sound), it's not the sort of problem you can solve by just putting down a
cloth underneath it, either. 

Congratulations to everyone on their beautiful HomePods and sorry it
secretes a deadly acid that destroys your furniture
https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/apple-homepod/?utm_source=twitter_medi
um=social_campaign=social-promo#homepods-flaws-but-not-dealbreakers-home
pod-vs-echo-vs-google-home-max-vs-sonos-one .

Apple has also updated its official support page for the HomePod, explaining
that "It is not unusual for any speaker with a vibration-dampening silicone
base to leave mild marks when placed on some wooden surfaces." According to
the support page, the marks are apparently caused by "oils diffusing between
the silicone base and the table surface." In addition to the previous stated
advice about hoping the marks go away or cleaning the surface, Apple also
said for customers who are concerned about the issue, "We recommend placing
your HomePod on a different surface."

Update February 14th, 4:00pm: Added additional information about placing the
HomePod on soft surfaces. Updated post to reflect new information from
Apple's official support page for the HomePod. 

Original Article at:
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-whi
te-ring-wooden-table-staining-issue-problem

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