Re: Navigating message components in Apple Mail

2018-08-13 Thread 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
We've all done things like that, and we all will again.  I'm just glad 
everything is now working again.

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Alex Hall




> On Aug 13, 2018, at 08:28, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Actually, Alex, you were far more helpful than you may realize.  This is very 
> embarrassing, because I should have known better.  The problem was  with me, 
> not VoiceOver or my MacBook Pro.
> 
> The mistake I repeatedly made was that I had not stopped interacting with the 
> body of the message so actually, VO was behaving properly all along.
> 
> So thanks for your help, though after all these years of using the Mac, I 
> shouldn’t have made that type of mistake.
> 
> Best regards and thanks again,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11.08.2018, at 14:44, 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's odd, because shift-tab works here. It worked on High Sierra, and it 
>> still works on the Mojave betas. It's the only method I use, actually. Even 
>> if that isn't working for some reason, VO commands should. Here, I can stop 
>> interacting with my message body, then vo-left and get to the subject, from 
>> address, and other options just as expected. I can't think of anything that 
>> might be stopping this on your system. Sorry I can't be of more help.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 07:40, Michael Busboom >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, that seems to be no longer the solution.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10.08.2018, at 15:53, michael dailey >>> > wrote:
 
 I am not on the sam os, but shift tab worked for me.
 
 
 Mike Dailey
 mpd...@gmail.com 
 
 
 
 
 
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 7:42 AM, Michael Busboom  > wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I should start out by saying that I am running the latest OS on my 2016 
> MacBook Pro.
> 
> Here’s the problem:
> 
> I recently wrote a note to several friends and in the course of my 
> writing, I decided I wanted to change the subject and change the email 
> address from which the message would be sent.  Once inside the body of 
> the message, I was unable to get back to fields where I could modify the 
> subject line and change the address from wwhich I wanted to send the 
> note.  When I stopped interacting with the body of my message, I was 
> still unable to get to the fields I wanted to change.  Using the Item 
> Chooser didn’t reveal anything I could click on, unless I am missing the 
> obvious.
> 
> Any help would be both welcome and greatly appreciated.
> 
> Have a nice weekend, everybody, and thanks!
> 
> Mike
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Re: Navigating message components in Apple Mail

2018-08-13 Thread Michael Busboom 
Actually, Alex, you were far more helpful than you may realize.  This is very 
embarrassing, because I should have known better.  The problem was  with me, 
not VoiceOver or my MacBook Pro.

The mistake I repeatedly made was that I had not stopped interacting with the 
body of the message so actually, VO was behaving properly all along.

So thanks for your help, though after all these years of using the Mac, I 
shouldn’t have made that type of mistake.

Best regards and thanks again,

Mike



> On 11.08.2018, at 14:44, 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's odd, because shift-tab works here. It worked on High Sierra, and it 
> still works on the Mojave betas. It's the only method I use, actually. Even 
> if that isn't working for some reason, VO commands should. Here, I can stop 
> interacting with my message body, then vo-left and get to the subject, from 
> address, and other options just as expected. I can't think of anything that 
> might be stopping this on your system. Sorry I can't be of more help.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2018, at 07:40, Michael Busboom > > wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately, that seems to be no longer the solution.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10.08.2018, at 15:53, michael dailey >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not on the sam os, but shift tab worked for me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike Dailey
>>> mpd...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 10, 2018, at 7:42 AM, Michael Busboom >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I should start out by saying that I am running the latest OS on my 2016 
 MacBook Pro.
 
 Here’s the problem:
 
 I recently wrote a note to several friends and in the course of my 
 writing, I decided I wanted to change the subject and change the email 
 address from which the message would be sent.  Once inside the body of the 
 message, I was unable to get back to fields where I could modify the 
 subject line and change the address from wwhich I wanted to send the note. 
  When I stopped interacting with the body of my message, I was still 
 unable to get to the fields I wanted to change.  Using the Item Chooser 
 didn’t reveal anything I could click on, unless I am missing the obvious.
 
 Any help would be both welcome and greatly appreciated.
 
 Have a nice weekend, everybody, and thanks!
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Navigating message components in Apple Mail

2018-08-11 Thread 'Alex Hall' via MacVisionaries 
That's odd, because shift-tab works here. It worked on High Sierra, and it 
still works on the Mojave betas. It's the only method I use, actually. Even if 
that isn't working for some reason, VO commands should. Here, I can stop 
interacting with my message body, then vo-left and get to the subject, from 
address, and other options just as expected. I can't think of anything that 
might be stopping this on your system. Sorry I can't be of more help.

--
Alex Hall




> On Aug 11, 2018, at 07:40, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, that seems to be no longer the solution.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10.08.2018, at 15:53, michael dailey > > wrote:
>> 
>> I am not on the sam os, but shift tab worked for me.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Dailey
>> mpd...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2018, at 7:42 AM, Michael Busboom >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I should start out by saying that I am running the latest OS on my 2016 
>>> MacBook Pro.
>>> 
>>> Here’s the problem:
>>> 
>>> I recently wrote a note to several friends and in the course of my writing, 
>>> I decided I wanted to change the subject and change the email address from 
>>> which the message would be sent.  Once inside the body of the message, I 
>>> was unable to get back to fields where I could modify the subject line and 
>>> change the address from wwhich I wanted to send the note.  When I stopped 
>>> interacting with the body of my message, I was still unable to get to the 
>>> fields I wanted to change.  Using the Item Chooser didn’t reveal anything I 
>>> could click on, unless I am missing the obvious.
>>> 
>>> Any help would be both welcome and greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Have a nice weekend, everybody, and thanks!
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
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Re: Navigating message components in Apple Mail

2018-08-11 Thread Michael Busboom 
Unfortunately, that seems to be no longer the solution.

Mike



> On 10.08.2018, at 15:53, michael dailey  wrote:
> 
> I am not on the sam os, but shift tab worked for me.
> 
> 
> Mike Dailey
> mpd...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2018, at 7:42 AM, Michael Busboom > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I should start out by saying that I am running the latest OS on my 2016 
>> MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> Here’s the problem:
>> 
>> I recently wrote a note to several friends and in the course of my writing, 
>> I decided I wanted to change the subject and change the email address from 
>> which the message would be sent.  Once inside the body of the message, I was 
>> unable to get back to fields where I could modify the subject line and 
>> change the address from wwhich I wanted to send the note.  When I stopped 
>> interacting with the body of my message, I was still unable to get to the 
>> fields I wanted to change.  Using the Item Chooser didn’t reveal anything I 
>> could click on, unless I am missing the obvious.
>> 
>> Any help would be both welcome and greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Have a nice weekend, everybody, and thanks!
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: Navigating message components in Apple Mail

2018-08-10 Thread michael dailey 
I am not on the sam os, but shift tab worked for me.


Mike Dailey
mpd...@gmail.com





> On Aug 10, 2018, at 7:42 AM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I should start out by saying that I am running the latest OS on my 2016 
> MacBook Pro.
> 
> Here’s the problem:
> 
> I recently wrote a note to several friends and in the course of my writing, I 
> decided I wanted to change the subject and change the email address from 
> which the message would be sent.  Once inside the body of the message, I was 
> unable to get back to fields where I could modify the subject line and change 
> the address from wwhich I wanted to send the note.  When I stopped 
> interacting with the body of my message, I was still unable to get to the 
> fields I wanted to change.  Using the Item Chooser didn’t reveal anything I 
> could click on, unless I am missing the obvious.
> 
> Any help would be both welcome and greatly appreciated.
> 
> Have a nice weekend, everybody, and thanks!
> 
> Mike
> 
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Navigating message components in Apple Mail

2018-08-10 Thread Michael Busboom 
Hello.

I should start out by saying that I am running the latest OS on my 2016 MacBook 
Pro.

Here’s the problem:

I recently wrote a note to several friends and in the course of my writing, I 
decided I wanted to change the subject and change the email address from which 
the message would be sent.  Once inside the body of the message, I was unable 
to get back to fields where I could modify the subject line and change the 
address from wwhich I wanted to send the note.  When I stopped interacting with 
the body of my message, I was still unable to get to the fields I wanted to 
change.  Using the Item Chooser didn’t reveal anything I could click on, unless 
I am missing the obvious.

Any help would be both welcome and greatly appreciated.

Have a nice weekend, everybody, and thanks!

Mike

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