Re: Android was Re: Braille input with hands on an I phone podcast?

2016-09-19 Thread Scott Granados 
Google TTS has had some performance problems in the past but the thing with 
voices is it’s also very subjective.  What sounds great to me may sound awful 
to you.  I would try other voices though if on android if you’re having 
performance problems.


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 4:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> You know, this is interesting. I actually find the Swedish google voice to be 
> quite bloody good, it’s the only modern Swedish voice that actually to a 
> certain extent can be multilingual however, i wonder if it’s the google voice 
> that’s choppy when used out and about with a bluetooth headset.
> /Krister
> 
>> 18 sep. 2016 kl. 05:29 skrev Scott Granados > >:
>> 
>> I totally agree with you on the voices.  I have eloquence on my droid device 
>> and enjoy that a lot.  Much more open on the voice side than Apple.  It’s 
>> nice that individual manufacturers can create their own TTS engines for 
>> android  and you can simply install them.
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Erik Burggraaf >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, I use Android on a regular basis. there are several Braille 
>>> keyboards for Android. the problem is that they require you to turn off 
>>> explore by touch. explore by touch is critical for navigating your phone 
>>> using gestures. so, I have never wanted to install one of these keyboards 
>>> and try to make it usable.
>>> 
>>> The default Google text to speech voices are pretty terrible. this might 
>>> lead you to believe that speech on Android is not quite as good as speech 
>>> on iOS. in fact, speech on Android is far superior to that on iOS. the 
>>> number of Manufacturers and the variety of voices you can actually purchase 
>>> or download for free is far and beyond that available on iOS.  Android also 
>>> had pronunciation dictionaries available starting with 4.0 Ice Cream 
>>> Sandwich which are only now being introduced in iOS 10.
>>> 
>>> Braille  is another matter. yes it's nice to be able to hook up the few 
>>> supported Braille displays; however, they are not leveraging the full power 
>>> of Android to make Braille the wonderful experience that it could be.   
>>> especially not compared with iOS.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik
>>> .
>>> 
>>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com 
>>> On September 17, 2016 8:49:22 AM Kawal Gucukoglu >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Please could someone do a podcast on how to use Braille output on their I 
 phone please?  I don’t know how to use it but heard all of Jonathan’s 
 podcast today when he was unboxing his I phone 7 plus and he was so fast 
 on Braille output.  I’d like to use it but the dots are not in the same 
 place as I don’t know how to calibrate the dots and can you chord i.e. do 
 all the six finger combinations as you do on a perkins?  Does Android have 
 this method?  Just curious.  Never used Android as when I heard it a long 
 time ago, didn’t like the voices.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Android was Re: Braille input with hands on an I phone podcast?

2016-09-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom 
You know, this is interesting. I actually find the Swedish google voice to be 
quite bloody good, it’s the only modern Swedish voice that actually to a 
certain extent can be multilingual however, i wonder if it’s the google voice 
that’s choppy when used out and about with a bluetooth headset.
/Krister

> 18 sep. 2016 kl. 05:29 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> I totally agree with you on the voices.  I have eloquence on my droid device 
> and enjoy that a lot.  Much more open on the voice side than Apple.  It’s 
> nice that individual manufacturers can create their own TTS engines for 
> android  and you can simply install them.
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Erik Burggraaf > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, I use Android on a regular basis. there are several Braille keyboards 
>> for Android. the problem is that they require you to turn off explore by 
>> touch. explore by touch is critical for navigating your phone using 
>> gestures. so, I have never wanted to install one of these keyboards and try 
>> to make it usable.
>> 
>> The default Google text to speech voices are pretty terrible. this might 
>> lead you to believe that speech on Android is not quite as good as speech on 
>> iOS. in fact, speech on Android is far superior to that on iOS. the number 
>> of Manufacturers and the variety of voices you can actually purchase or 
>> download for free is far and beyond that available on iOS.  Android also had 
>> pronunciation dictionaries available starting with 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich 
>> which are only now being introduced in iOS 10.
>> 
>> Braille  is another matter. yes it's nice to be able to hook up the few 
>> supported Braille displays; however, they are not leveraging the full power 
>> of Android to make Braille the wonderful experience that it could be.   
>> especially not compared with iOS.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik
>> .
>> 
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com 
>> On September 17, 2016 8:49:22 AM Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Please could someone do a podcast on how to use Braille output on their I 
>>> phone please?  I don’t know how to use it but heard all of Jonathan’s 
>>> podcast today when he was unboxing his I phone 7 plus and he was so fast on 
>>> Braille output.  I’d like to use it but the dots are not in the same place 
>>> as I don’t know how to calibrate the dots and can you chord i.e. do all the 
>>> six finger combinations as you do on a perkins?  Does Android have this 
>>> method?  Just curious.  Never used Android as when I heard it a long time 
>>> ago, didn’t like the voices.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> I'm fundraising for RNIB.
>>> 
>>> Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money 
>>> Giving page. 
>>> 
>>> To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit 
>>> http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland 
>>>  where you can also 
>>> sponsor me online.
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Re: Android was Re: Braille input with hands on an I phone podcast?

2016-09-17 Thread Scott Granados 
I totally agree with you on the voices.  I have eloquence on my droid device 
and enjoy that a lot.  Much more open on the voice side than Apple.  It’s nice 
that individual manufacturers can create their own TTS engines for android  and 
you can simply install them.

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Erik Burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I use Android on a regular basis. there are several Braille keyboards 
> for Android. the problem is that they require you to turn off explore by 
> touch. explore by touch is critical for navigating your phone using gestures. 
> so, I have never wanted to install one of these keyboards and try to make it 
> usable.
> 
> The default Google text to speech voices are pretty terrible. this might lead 
> you to believe that speech on Android is not quite as good as speech on iOS. 
> in fact, speech on Android is far superior to that on iOS. the number of 
> Manufacturers and the variety of voices you can actually purchase or download 
> for free is far and beyond that available on iOS.  Android also had 
> pronunciation dictionaries available starting with 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich 
> which are only now being introduced in iOS 10.
> 
> Braille  is another matter. yes it's nice to be able to hook up the few 
> supported Braille displays; however, they are not leveraging the full power 
> of Android to make Braille the wonderful experience that it could be.   
> especially not compared with iOS.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik
> .
> 
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com 
> On September 17, 2016 8:49:22 AM Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Please could someone do a podcast on how to use Braille output on their I 
>> phone please?  I don’t know how to use it but heard all of Jonathan’s 
>> podcast today when he was unboxing his I phone 7 plus and he was so fast on 
>> Braille output.  I’d like to use it but the dots are not in the same place 
>> as I don’t know how to calibrate the dots and can you chord i.e. do all the 
>> six finger combinations as you do on a perkins?  Does Android have this 
>> method?  Just curious.  Never used Android as when I heard it a long time 
>> ago, didn’t like the voices.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> I'm fundraising for RNIB.
>> 
>> Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money 
>> Giving page. 
>> 
>> To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit 
>> http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland 
>>  where you can also 
>> sponsor me online.
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