Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-24 Thread Hai Nguyen Ly
Jeff, 
Are you switching to full-screen mode when you are focussed on VMWare? You 
should generally need to do this once when you first start your VM.

On Jun 23, 2011, at 7:44 PM, joseph wrote:

> hi
> 
> i tried your method but i still had to quit voice over to get to the virtual 
> machine. am i missing something here?
> 
> best
> 
> On 23 Jun 2011, at 16:26, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jeff,
>> Since I don't like having to turn off VO everytime I switch  to using my VM, 
>> I've found that one can solve the keyboard focus issue by going to Fusion 
>> preferences/general and navigating to the popup button after Games. Activate 
>> this popup button and navigate down to Always optimize mouse for games and 
>> you should be all set.
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> 
>>> Here is the way I solve this. Once in the virtual machine, turn off voice 
>>> over and press command control enter, this puts the virtual machine in full 
>>> screen mode. Your keyboard focus will remain in the virtual machine. If you 
>>> need to do something on the mac, press command control enter again and 
>>> reenable voiceover. After the first time doing this, if you switch back and 
>>> forth between fusion and other apps, it seems to work fine.
>>> On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting 
 Windows on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard 
 issues.
 
 One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus 
 being maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in 
 Windows, making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn’t switch 
 away or staying in Mac land.
 
 Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have 
 suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also 
 getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to 
 get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
 
 I really don’t want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
 
 Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates 
 to the keyboard focus issue?
 
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Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-23 Thread joseph
hi

i tried your method but i still had to quit voice over to get to the virtual 
machine. am i missing something here?

best

On 23 Jun 2011, at 16:26, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:

> Hello Jeff,
> Since I don't like having to turn off VO everytime I switch  to using my VM, 
> I've found that one can solve the keyboard focus issue by going to Fusion 
> preferences/general and navigating to the popup button after Games. Activate 
> this popup button and navigate down to Always optimize mouse for games and 
> you should be all set.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Here is the way I solve this. Once in the virtual machine, turn off voice 
>> over and press command control enter, this puts the virtual machine in full 
>> screen mode. Your keyboard focus will remain in the virtual machine. If you 
>> need to do something on the mac, press command control enter again and 
>> reenable voiceover. After the first time doing this, if you switch back and 
>> forth between fusion and other apps, it seems to work fine.
>> On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting Windows 
>>> on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard issues.
>>> 
>>> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus 
>>> being maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in 
>>> Windows, making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn’t switch 
>>> away or staying in Mac land.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have 
>>> suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also 
>>> getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to 
>>> get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>>> 
>>> I really don’t want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>>> 
>>> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates 
>>> to the keyboard focus issue?
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
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Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-23 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Mike and All,
Am I the only one who doesn't experience issues of this sort?  I have only 
needed to turn VO off when dealing with my Linux VM, which doesn't have the 
VmWare tools installed.  My WIndows VM, by contrast, does, and I have never ran 
into issues of focus when using it.  The most I'll occasionally run into is a 
key conflict between a VO key and a WIndows VM key, which is easy enough to 
bypass with vo-tab.  If anything, full-screen mode presents more issues for me, 
specifically when resuming a suspended vM.
Best,
Zack.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Here is the way I solve this. Once in the virtual machine, turn off voice 
> over and press command control enter, this puts the virtual machine in full 
> screen mode. Your keyboard focus will remain in the virtual machine. If you 
> need to do something on the mac, press command control enter again and 
> reenable voiceover. After the first time doing this, if you switch back and 
> forth between fusion and other apps, it seems to work fine.
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting Windows 
>> on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard issues.
>> 
>> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus being 
>> maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in Windows, 
>> making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn’t switch away or 
>> staying in Mac land.
>> 
>> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have 
>> suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also 
>> getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to 
>> get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>> 
>> I really don’t want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>> 
>> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates 
>> to the keyboard focus issue?
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
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Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-23 Thread Naama Shang
Hey Jeff,
Do let me know if that works well.
Cheers,
Naama
On 23 Jun 2011, at 18:28, Jeff Bishop wrote:

> Wow, thank you.
> 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems
> 
> Hello Jeff,
> Since I don't like having to turn off VO everytime I switch  to using my VM,
> I've found that one can solve the keyboard focus issue by going to Fusion
> preferences/general and navigating to the popup button after Games. Activate
> this popup button and navigate down to Always optimize mouse for games and
> you should be all set.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Here is the way I solve this. Once in the virtual machine, turn off voice
> over and press command control enter, this puts the virtual machine in full
> screen mode. Your keyboard focus will remain in the virtual machine. If you
> need to do something on the mac, press command control enter again and
> reenable voiceover. After the first time doing this, if you switch back and
> forth between fusion and other apps, it seems to work fine.
>> On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting
> Windows on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard
> issues.
>>> 
>>> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus
> being maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in
> Windows, making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn't switch away
> or staying in Mac land.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have
> suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also
> getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to
> get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>>> 
>>> I really don't want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>>> 
>>> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it
> relates to the keyboard focus issue?
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-23 Thread Jeff Bishop
Wow, thank you.

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Subject: Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

Hello Jeff,
Since I don't like having to turn off VO everytime I switch  to using my VM,
I've found that one can solve the keyboard focus issue by going to Fusion
preferences/general and navigating to the popup button after Games. Activate
this popup button and navigate down to Always optimize mouse for games and
you should be all set.
Hope this helps.


On Jun 22, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Here is the way I solve this. Once in the virtual machine, turn off voice
over and press command control enter, this puts the virtual machine in full
screen mode. Your keyboard focus will remain in the virtual machine. If you
need to do something on the mac, press command control enter again and
reenable voiceover. After the first time doing this, if you switch back and
forth between fusion and other apps, it seems to work fine.
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting
Windows on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard
issues.
>> 
>> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus
being maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in
Windows, making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn't switch away
or staying in Mac land.
>> 
>> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have
suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also
getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to
get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>> 
>> I really don't want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>> 
>> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it
relates to the keyboard focus issue?
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
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Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-23 Thread Hai Nguyen Ly
Hello Jeff,
Since I don't like having to turn off VO everytime I switch  to using my VM, 
I've found that one can solve the keyboard focus issue by going to Fusion 
preferences/general and navigating to the popup button after Games. Activate 
this popup button and navigate down to Always optimize mouse for games and you 
should be all set.
Hope this helps.


On Jun 22, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Here is the way I solve this. Once in the virtual machine, turn off voice 
> over and press command control enter, this puts the virtual machine in full 
> screen mode. Your keyboard focus will remain in the virtual machine. If you 
> need to do something on the mac, press command control enter again and 
> reenable voiceover. After the first time doing this, if you switch back and 
> forth between fusion and other apps, it seems to work fine.
> On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting Windows 
>> on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard issues.
>> 
>> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus being 
>> maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in Windows, 
>> making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn’t switch away or 
>> staying in Mac land.
>> 
>> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have 
>> suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also 
>> getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to 
>> get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>> 
>> I really don’t want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>> 
>> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates 
>> to the keyboard focus issue?
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
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Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-22 Thread Mike Arrigo
Here is the way I solve this. Once in the virtual machine, turn off voice over 
and press command control enter, this puts the virtual machine in full screen 
mode. Your keyboard focus will remain in the virtual machine. If you need to do 
something on the mac, press command control enter again and reenable voiceover. 
After the first time doing this, if you switch back and forth between fusion 
and other apps, it seems to work fine.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>  
> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting Windows 
> on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard issues.
>  
> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus being 
> maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in Windows, 
> making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn’t switch away or 
> staying in Mac land.
>  
> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have 
> suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also 
> getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to get 
> ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>  
> I really don’t want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>  
> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates to 
> the keyboard focus issue?
>  
> Jeff
>  
> 
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RE: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-22 Thread Jeff Bishop
I myself hadn't seen it yet but I have seen reports from others that have so
was wondering if any special settings must be set to insure proper
operation. Naama is on the list and may have more info to share here?

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

Dear Jeff,
Could you perhaps explain a little more clearly exactly what the issue
you're experiencing is?  I've been running FUsion for months and whenever I
switch between the FUsion window and the Mac OS, I expect focus to switch,
and it does.
In short, FUsion works the way I expect.  Is there something I'm missing
here?
best,
Zack.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>  
> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting
Windows on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard
issues.
>  
> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus
being maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in
Windows, making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn't switch away
or staying in Mac land.
>  
> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have
suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also
getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to
get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>  
> I really don't want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>  
> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates
to the keyboard focus issue?
>  
> Jeff
>  
> 
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Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Dear Jeff,
Could you perhaps explain a little more clearly exactly what the issue you're 
experiencing is?  I've been running FUsion for months and whenever I switch 
between the FUsion window and the Mac OS, I expect focus to switch, and it does.
In short, FUsion works the way I expect.  Is there something I'm missing here?
best,
Zack.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>  
> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting Windows 
> on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard issues.
>  
> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus being 
> maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in Windows, 
> making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn’t switch away or 
> staying in Mac land.
>  
> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have 
> suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also 
> getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to get 
> ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>  
> I really don’t want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>  
> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates to 
> the keyboard focus issue?
>  
> Jeff
>  
> 
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RE: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-22 Thread Jeff Bishop
Yes, I am most certain that there has to be a fix to this somehow or there
better well darn better be one LOL.

Let's hope or both of us will be very sad.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Naama Shang
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

Hello Jeff,
This is exactly the issue I was having, and it was very frustrating. Also,
neither system  was particularly stable. That's why I decided to blow away
the virtual machine for now.
Naama
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From: "Jeff Bishop" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:05 PM
Subject: Fusion and switching between operating systems


Hello Everyone,



As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting Windows
on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard issues.



One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus being
maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in Windows,
making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn't switch away or
staying in Mac land.



Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have
suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also
getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to
get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.



I really don't want to Bootcamp if I can help it.



Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates
to the keyboard focus issue?



Jeff



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Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-22 Thread Naama Shang
Hello Jeff,
This is exactly the issue I was having, and it was very frustrating. Also, 
neither system  was particularly stable. That's why I decided to blow away 
the virtual machine for now.
Naama
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Bishop" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:05 PM
Subject: Fusion and switching between operating systems


Hello Everyone,



As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting Windows
on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard issues.



One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus being
maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in Windows,
making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn't switch away or
staying in Mac land.



Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have
suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also
getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to
get ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.



I really don't want to Bootcamp if I can help it.



Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates
to the keyboard focus issue?



Jeff



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Re: Fusion and switching between operating systems

2011-06-22 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I'm using Fusion and Windows 7 and although I updated to the latest version of 
Fusion I can't see any improvements.  However if you want help with any screen 
reading stuff (Jaws) just write to me off list and I'll forward the e-mail 
concerning what to do although it should be in the archive.

Kawal.
On 22 Jun 2011, at 21:05, Jeff Bishop wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>  
> As I will be attempting this to replace my Windows machine (putting Windows 
> on my Mac) I wanted to start a thread about Fusion and keyboard issues.
>  
> One of the issues I have seen from users is an issue of keyboard focus being 
> maintained or switching between operating systems. Meaning, once in Windows, 
> making sure keyboard focus stays in Windows and doesn’t switch away or 
> staying in Mac land.
>  
> Has anyone else seen this with the latest version and if so do you have 
> suggestions to resolve it? I will be working with my son Brian who is also 
> getting a Mac so I am sure we may run into this ourselves. Just trying to get 
> ahead here as this will be a vital issue for both him and me.
>  
> I really don’t want to Bootcamp if I can help it.
>  
> Also, have others seen a difference between XP and Windows 7 as it relates to 
> the keyboard focus issue?
>  
> Jeff
>  
> 
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