Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Christina 
Cool. That’s good to know. I’m on Ventura using Column layout  and in the email 
thread they were talking about when in column layout. I played around with my 
views and even when my preview pane was set to side preview and I turned off 
column layout my splitter still says horizontal splitter. I wonder if that will 
change when I update or if I reboot. 

Nonetheless, I am grateful for the instructions on how to get rid of the 
preview pane. So, again thanks. ☺️ 
Cheers,
Christina 

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 8:09 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Christina,
> Horizontal vs. Vertical depends on how you have mail set up. If preview is at 
> the bottom, then horizontal. If preview is to the right, then vertical.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 6, 2024, at 3:59 PM, Christina  wrote:
> 
> Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical Splitter. 
> That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to get the 
> Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.
> 
> Christina
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I have no explanation.
>> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
>> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
>> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
>> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
>> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
>> Perhaps that makes a difference.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Brad,
>> 
>> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
>> 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>>> preview pain will be gone.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview 
>>> pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering 
>>> the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
>>> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
>>> showing.  Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
>>> 
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Maurice A . Mines 
Thanks so much for the reminder on how to get rid of the preview pane. I had 
forgotten how to do it and had made peace with it. I’ve actually made use of VO 
J to quickly read what’s in the preview pane, but it’s so nice to now be able 
to get rid of it when I don’t want messages marked as read.

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> OK, you got me.
> Congratulations.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 6, 2024, at 20:23, Christina  wrote:
> 
> You did later say horizontal splitter, but the first time you said vertacle 
> splitter. No biggy, but here’s the copy/paste. 🙂 
> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>>> preview pain will be gone.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>  
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2024, at 5:26 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> In my email quoted below, I clearly said horizontal splitter.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 6, 2024, at 17:59, Christina  wrote:
>> 
>> Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical 
>> Splitter. That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to 
>> get the Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.
>> 
>> Christina
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have no explanation.
>>> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
>>> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
>>> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
>>> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
>>> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
>>> Perhaps that makes a difference.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brad,
>>> 
>>> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase 
>>> to 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
 This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
 preview pain will be gone.
 
 HTH.
 
 - Brad -
 
 On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview 
 pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering 
 the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a 
 vertical splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview 
 pane is still showing.  Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Catherine
 
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Brad Snyder 
Exactly.  :)

- Brad -



On Apr 6, 2024, at 21:09, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Christina,
Horizontal vs. Vertical depends on how you have mail set up. If preview is at 
the bottom, then horizontal. If preview is to the right, then vertical.

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com



On Apr 6, 2024, at 3:59 PM, Christina  wrote:

Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical Splitter. 
That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to get the 
Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.

Christina

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I have no explanation.
> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
> Perhaps that makes a difference.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brad,
> 
> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
> 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>> preview pain will be gone.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview pane 
>> in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the 
>> divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
>> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
>> showing.  Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>> 
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Dave Carlson 
Christina,
Horizontal vs. Vertical depends on how you have mail set up. If preview is at 
the bottom, then horizontal. If preview is to the right, then vertical.

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Engineer,  Farfar
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com



On Apr 6, 2024, at 3:59 PM, Christina  wrote:

Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical Splitter. 
That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to get the 
Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.

Christina

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I have no explanation.
> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
> Perhaps that makes a difference.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brad,
> 
> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
> 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>> preview pain will be gone.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview pane 
>> in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the 
>> divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
>> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
>> showing.  Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
>> 
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Christina 
Thanks so much for the reminder on how to get rid of the preview pane. I had 
forgotten how to do it and had made peace with it. I’ve actually made use of VO 
J to quickly read what’s in the preview pane, but it’s so nice to now be able 
to get rid of it when I don’t want messages marked as read.

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> OK, you got me.
> Congratulations.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 6, 2024, at 20:23, Christina  wrote:
> 
> You did later say horizontal splitter, but the first time you said vertacle 
> splitter. No biggy, but here’s the copy/paste. 🙂 
> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>>> preview pain will be gone.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>  
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2024, at 5:26 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> In my email quoted below, I clearly said horizontal splitter.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 6, 2024, at 17:59, Christina  wrote:
>> 
>> Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical 
>> Splitter. That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to 
>> get the Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.
>> 
>> Christina
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have no explanation.
>>> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
>>> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
>>> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
>>> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
>>> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
>>> Perhaps that makes a difference.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Brad,
>>> 
>>> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase 
>>> to 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
 
 Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
 This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
 preview pain will be gone.
 
 HTH.
 
 - Brad -
 
 On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview 
 pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering 
 the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a 
 vertical splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview 
 pane is still showing.  Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Catherine
 
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Brad Snyder 
OK, you got me.
Congratulations.

- Brad -



On Apr 6, 2024, at 20:23, Christina  wrote:

You did later say horizontal splitter, but the first time you said vertacle 
splitter. No biggy, but here’s the copy/paste. 🙂 

>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>> preview pain will be gone.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
 

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 5:26 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> In my email quoted below, I clearly said horizontal splitter.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 6, 2024, at 17:59, Christina  wrote:
> 
> Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical Splitter. 
> That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to get the 
> Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.
> 
> Christina
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I have no explanation.
>> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
>> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
>> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
>> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
>> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
>> Perhaps that makes a difference.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Brad,
>> 
>> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
>> 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>>> preview pain will be gone.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview 
>>> pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering 
>>> the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
>>> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
>>> showing.  Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
>>> 
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Christina 
You did later say horizontal splitter, but the first time you said vertacle 
splitter. No biggy, but here’s the copy/paste. 🙂 

>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder > > wrote:
>> 
>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>> preview pain will be gone.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
 

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 5:26 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> In my email quoted below, I clearly said horizontal splitter.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Apr 6, 2024, at 17:59, Christina  wrote:
> 
> Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical Splitter. 
> That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to get the 
> Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.
> 
> Christina
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I have no explanation.
>> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
>> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
>> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
>> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
>> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
>> Perhaps that makes a difference.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Brad,
>> 
>> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
>> 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>>> preview pain will be gone.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview 
>>> pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering 
>>> the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
>>> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
>>> showing.  Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
That did work for me.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 6, 2024, at 5:59 PM, Christina  wrote:
> 
> Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical Splitter. 
> That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to get the 
> Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.
> 
> Christina
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> I have no explanation.
>> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
>> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
>> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
>> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
>> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
>> Perhaps that makes a difference.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Brad,
>> 
>> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
>> 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>>> preview pain will be gone.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview 
>>> pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering 
>>> the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
>>> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
>>> showing.  Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Catherine
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Brad Snyder 
In my email quoted below, I clearly said horizontal splitter.- Brad -On Apr 6, 2024, at 17:59, Christina  wrote:Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical Splitter. That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to get the Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.ChristinaOn Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:I have no explanation.Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.Perhaps that makes a difference.- Brad -


On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Brad,Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 45%.  Still running Big Sur.DonnaOn Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the preview pain will be gone.HTH.- Brad -On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still showing.  Any ideas?Thanks,Catherine

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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-04-06 Thread Christina 
Isn’t it supposed to be the horizontal splitter? You said Vertical Splitter. 
That might be why some can’t get it to 100 percent. I was able to get the 
Horizontal splitter to 100% and my Preview pane is gone.

Christina

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:14 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I have no explanation.
> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
> Perhaps that makes a difference.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brad,
> 
> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
> 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>> preview pain will be gone.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview pane 
>> in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the 
>> divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
>> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
>> showing.  Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-03-29 Thread Brad Snyder 
I had no issue when running Big Sur, so I don’t think that has anything to do 
with the issue.

- Brad -



On Mar 29, 2024, at 10:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I wonder if it’s a big sir issue. It would be interesting to know what OS 
Catherine is running. Because I cannot get it to budge past 45%. I use column 
layout, too.
Cheers,
Donna
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 9:15 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I have no explanation.
> Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
> Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
> I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
> have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
> I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
> Perhaps that makes a difference.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brad,
> 
> Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
> 45%.  Still running Big Sur.
> Donna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
>> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
>> preview pain will be gone.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview pane 
>> in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the 
>> divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
>> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
>> showing.  Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Catherine
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-03-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
I wonder if it’s a big sir issue. It would be interesting to know what OS Catherine is running. Because I cannot get it to budge past 45%. I use column layout, too.Cheers,DonnaSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 29, 2024, at 9:15 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:I have no explanation.Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.Perhaps that makes a difference.- Brad -


On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Brad,Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 45%.  Still running Big Sur.DonnaOn Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the preview pain will be gone.HTH.- Brad -On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still showing.  Any ideas?Thanks,Catherine

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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-03-29 Thread Brad Snyder 
I have no explanation.
Mine is at 100%, and when I put focus on the splitter, I hear “Horizontal 
Splitter, collapsed on bottom”.
I am running Sonoma 14.4.1, but I don’t think the version matters because I 
have been doing this since Mountain Lion, macOS 10.8.
I am using Column layout, formerly known as Classic View.
Perhaps that makes a difference.

- Brad -



On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Brad,

Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
45%.  Still running Big Sur.
Donna



> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
> preview pain will be gone.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview pane 
> in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the 
> divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
> showing.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-03-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Brad,

Katherine’s raised my curiosity, so I tried this.  It would only increase to 
45%.  Still running Big Sur.
Donna



> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:41 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.
> This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the 
> preview pain will be gone.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
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> in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the 
> divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical 
> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
> showing.  Any ideas?
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> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-03-29 Thread Brad Snyder 
Try interacting with the vertical splitter, and take it to 100%.This means that the message list will take up 100% of the area, and the preview pain will be gone.HTH.- Brad -On Mar 29, 2024, at 08:03, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries  wrote:Hi, please can anyone tell me if/how it’s possible to hide the preview pane in Mail on the Mac?  I believe sighted users can do this by altering the divider line by dragging it. With VoiceOver, I interact with a vertical splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still showing.  Any ideas?Thanks,Catherine



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Re: Hiding preview pane in Mail?

2024-03-29 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Hi Katherine,

It used to be the case that VO users could do that too.  But I just tried it, 
and got similar results to yours.  I was able to get the vertical splitter down 
to 14%, and now it says collapsed.  But the preview pain still shows. Very 
strange.
Donna

> On Mar 29, 2024, at 8:02 AM, 'Catherine Turner' via MacVisionaries 
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> splitter, but cannot get it any less than 29%, so the preview pane is still 
> showing.  Any ideas?
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> Thanks,
> Catherine
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