Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-24 Thread Julie Rattray
Hi,

I think this is where the format section of the screen becomes important you 
can add sounds pictures and media to the slides and then decide if it plays 
immediately or on click the format area changes as you use different elements 
of the toolbar - happy to help further if I can so just keep posting questions 
- if it would help I can try to do a more detailed response to this later?

> On 24 Oct 2019, at 03:00, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> It worked out great! Yes, all I had to do was VO-Right to the next collapsed 
> element, the one after the table with the slides in it that I could arrow 
> through, interact with that element, and for each slide, the text was right 
> there. What threw me, what made me think it wasn't working, is I found out 
> that the first two slides were banners with nothing on them but the title and 
> a big picture. When I got to slide #3, interacting with that center element 
> showed me the text in a nice editable window.
> 
> 
> Now for my next trick: attaching media and having it play when the slide is 
> display to which said media is attached!
> 
> 
> On 10/23/2019 5:55 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> So in keynote, and forgive me if I am starting with stuff you already know, 
>> you get three sometimes four different areas of the screen you can interact 
>> with - depending on your set up:
>> 
>> 1. Slide navigator - this is a list of all the slides in the presentation 
>> and if you interact with this list you will only get the titles of the 
>> slides.  If you rest your cursor on one of these and then stop interacting 
>> with the slide navigator you then ..
>> 2. Can navigate to the slide itself and here you can interact with the 
>> different elements on the slide and read the text sometimes I need to 
>> interact with the element - say title and then interact with the edit box 
>> and it should work - move around the box with vo arrows.
>> 3. You might also have the formatter area which changes depending on what 
>> you are doing but it is where you can add transitions fonts etc or move 
>> things around.
>> 4. The notes page where you can add presenter notes.
>> 
>> Hope this helps but get back to me if it still doesn’t work
>> 
>>> On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:43, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I sure thought so, too, but I get the title, and that's all. I've tried 
>>> adding a text box from the tool bar, but that didn't help either. I then 
>>> went to the formatter group, but all I could do there was move things 
>>> around and messait up for the people who actually need to see what's on the 
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/23/2019 5:21 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:
 Hi,
 
 If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should read 
 everything to you.
 
> On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this software 
> than I do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto presenter for 
> a group to which I belong whereat I must show a PowerePoint presentation. 
> I've discovered that Keynote doesn't read the embedded text, but the 
> Windows equivalents--PowerPoint and OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do 
> this in Keynote for MacOS?
> 
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Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-23 Thread Steve Matzura
It worked out great! Yes, all I had to do was VO-Right to the next 
collapsed element, the one after the table with the slides in it that I 
could arrow through, interact with that element, and for each slide, the 
text was right there. What threw me, what made me think it wasn't 
working, is I found out that the first two slides were banners with 
nothing on them but the title and a big picture. When I got to slide #3, 
interacting with that center element showed me the text in a nice 
editable window.



Now for my next trick: attaching media and having it play when the slide 
is display to which said media is attached!



On 10/23/2019 5:55 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:

Hi again,

So in keynote, and forgive me if I am starting with stuff you already know, you 
get three sometimes four different areas of the screen you can interact with - 
depending on your set up:

1. Slide navigator - this is a list of all the slides in the presentation and 
if you interact with this list you will only get the titles of the slides.  If 
you rest your cursor on one of these and then stop interacting with the slide 
navigator you then ..
2. Can navigate to the slide itself and here you can interact with the 
different elements on the slide and read the text sometimes I need to interact 
with the element - say title and then interact with the edit box and it should 
work - move around the box with vo arrows.
3. You might also have the formatter area which changes depending on what you 
are doing but it is where you can add transitions fonts etc or move things 
around.
4. The notes page where you can add presenter notes.

Hope this helps but get back to me if it still doesn’t work


On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:43, Steve Matzura  wrote:

I sure thought so, too, but I get the title, and that's all. I've tried adding 
a text box from the tool bar, but that didn't help either. I then went to the 
formatter group, but all I could do there was move things around and messait up 
for the people who actually need to see what's on the screen.


On 10/23/2019 5:21 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:

Hi,

If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should read 
everything to you.


On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:

It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this software than I 
do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto presenter for a group to 
which I belong whereat I must show a PowerePoint presentation. I've discovered 
that Keynote doesn't read the embedded text, but the Windows 
equivalents--PowerPoint and OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do this in 
Keynote for MacOS?


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Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-23 Thread Steve Matzura

None of what you just told me was old. I've never done this before.


There was one edit box I found that was filled with 0's. Very strange! I 
don't have the time to study this now because of time constraints, but I 
will, and report back, probably tomorrow.



On 10/23/2019 5:55 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:

Hi again,

So in keynote, and forgive me if I am starting with stuff you already know, you 
get three sometimes four different areas of the screen you can interact with - 
depending on your set up:

1. Slide navigator - this is a list of all the slides in the presentation and 
if you interact with this list you will only get the titles of the slides.  If 
you rest your cursor on one of these and then stop interacting with the slide 
navigator you then ..
2. Can navigate to the slide itself and here you can interact with the 
different elements on the slide and read the text sometimes I need to interact 
with the element - say title and then interact with the edit box and it should 
work - move around the box with vo arrows.
3. You might also have the formatter area which changes depending on what you 
are doing but it is where you can add transitions fonts etc or move things 
around.
4. The notes page where you can add presenter notes.

Hope this helps but get back to me if it still doesn’t work


On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:43, Steve Matzura  wrote:

I sure thought so, too, but I get the title, and that's all. I've tried adding 
a text box from the tool bar, but that didn't help either. I then went to the 
formatter group, but all I could do there was move things around and messait up 
for the people who actually need to see what's on the screen.


On 10/23/2019 5:21 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:

Hi,

If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should read 
everything to you.


On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:

It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this software than I 
do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto presenter for a group to 
which I belong whereat I must show a PowerePoint presentation. I've discovered 
that Keynote doesn't read the embedded text, but the Windows 
equivalents--PowerPoint and OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do this in 
Keynote for MacOS?


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Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-23 Thread Steve Matzura
I know there's text there,  because I can use OpenOffice's program (and 
probably Keynote, too) to extract and save the text. I'll look at it 
further.



On 10/23/2019 5:51 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm.  That's odd.  VO should read everything within a Keynote slide, 
unless of course it is an unlabelled image, or a scanned image thing. 
 There are usually different aspects on the slide itself, including 
headers, footers, body etc.  VO should read the contents of a Text box 
without even interacting with it.  Images are usually just announced 
as Image.  Transitions are announced.  This is my experience anyway. 
 So, if you're not getting any of that feedback, there's something 
funny with the Keynote slide stack or something funny with your 
version of Keynote.


Are you in Slide Show mode, or just view/edit mode?

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 23, 2019, at 15:43, Steve Matzura > wrote:


I sure thought so, too, but I get the title, and that's all. I've 
tried adding a text box from the tool bar, but that didn't help 
either. I then went to the formatter group, but all I could do there 
was move things around and messait up for the people who actually need 
to see what's on the screen.



On 10/23/2019 5:21 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:

Hi,

If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should 
read everything to you.


On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura > wrote:


It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this 
software than I do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto 
presenter for a group to which I belong whereat I must show a 
PowerePoint presentation. I've discovered that Keynote doesn't read 
the embedded text, but the Windows equivalents--PowerPoint and 
OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do this in Keynote for MacOS?



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Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-23 Thread Julie Rattray
Hi again,

So in keynote, and forgive me if I am starting with stuff you already know, you 
get three sometimes four different areas of the screen you can interact with - 
depending on your set up:

1. Slide navigator - this is a list of all the slides in the presentation and 
if you interact with this list you will only get the titles of the slides.  If 
you rest your cursor on one of these and then stop interacting with the slide 
navigator you then ..
2. Can navigate to the slide itself and here you can interact with the 
different elements on the slide and read the text sometimes I need to interact 
with the element - say title and then interact with the edit box and it should 
work - move around the box with vo arrows.
3. You might also have the formatter area which changes depending on what you 
are doing but it is where you can add transitions fonts etc or move things 
around.
4. The notes page where you can add presenter notes.

Hope this helps but get back to me if it still doesn’t work 

> On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:43, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> I sure thought so, too, but I get the title, and that's all. I've tried 
> adding a text box from the tool bar, but that didn't help either. I then went 
> to the formatter group, but all I could do there was move things around and 
> messait up for the people who actually need to see what's on the screen.
> 
> 
> On 10/23/2019 5:21 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should read 
>> everything to you.
>> 
>>> On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this software than 
>>> I do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto presenter for a group 
>>> to which I belong whereat I must show a PowerePoint presentation. I've 
>>> discovered that Keynote doesn't read the embedded text, but the Windows 
>>> equivalents--PowerPoint and OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do this in 
>>> Keynote for MacOS?
>>> 
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Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-23 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Hmmm.  That's odd.  VO should read everything within a Keynote slide, unless of 
course it is an unlabelled image, or a scanned image thing.  There are usually 
different aspects on the slide itself, including headers, footers, body etc.  
VO should read the contents of a Text box without even interacting with it.  
Images are usually just announced as Image.  Transitions are announced.  This 
is my experience anyway.  So, if you're not getting any of that feedback, 
there's something funny with the Keynote slide stack or something funny with 
your version of Keynote.

Are you in Slide Show mode, or just view/edit mode?

Later...
  

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 23, 2019, at 15:43, Steve Matzura  wrote:

I sure thought so, too, but I get the title, and that's all. I've tried adding 
a text box from the tool bar, but that didn't help either. I then went to the 
formatter group, but all I could do there was move things around and messait up 
for the people who actually need to see what's on the screen.


On 10/23/2019 5:21 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should read 
> everything to you.
> 
>> On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>> 
>> It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this software than 
>> I do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto presenter for a group 
>> to which I belong whereat I must show a PowerePoint presentation. I've 
>> discovered that Keynote doesn't read the embedded text, but the Windows 
>> equivalents--PowerPoint and OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do this in 
>> Keynote for MacOS?
>> 
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Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-23 Thread Julie Rattray
Hmm ok so try this - I think if you interact with the text box or whatever item 
and then use vo and arrow keys it should show you more than the title - I do 
use keynote but not as often at the moment so let me have a play around to 
refresh my memory and see if I can work it out for you because I know there is 
a way 

> On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:43, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> I sure thought so, too, but I get the title, and that's all. I've tried 
> adding a text box from the tool bar, but that didn't help either. I then went 
> to the formatter group, but all I could do there was move things around and 
> messait up for the people who actually need to see what's on the screen.
> 
> 
> On 10/23/2019 5:21 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should read 
>> everything to you.
>> 
>>> On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this software than 
>>> I do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto presenter for a group 
>>> to which I belong whereat I must show a PowerePoint presentation. I've 
>>> discovered that Keynote doesn't read the embedded text, but the Windows 
>>> equivalents--PowerPoint and OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do this in 
>>> Keynote for MacOS?
>>> 
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Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-23 Thread Steve Matzura
I sure thought so, too, but I get the title, and that's all. I've tried 
adding a text box from the tool bar, but that didn't help either. I then 
went to the formatter group, but all I could do there was move things 
around and messait up for the people who actually need to see what's on 
the screen.



On 10/23/2019 5:21 PM, Julie Rattray wrote:

Hi,

If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should read 
everything to you.


On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:

It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this software than I 
do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto presenter for a group to 
which I belong whereat I must show a PowerePoint presentation. I've discovered 
that Keynote doesn't read the embedded text, but the Windows 
equivalents--PowerPoint and OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do this in 
Keynote for MacOS?


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Re: Keynote Tips and Tricks

2019-10-23 Thread Julie Rattray
Hi,

If you interact with the individual elements of the slide it should read 
everything to you. 

> On 23 Oct 2019, at 22:12, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> It has come upon me that I need to know a lot more about this software than I 
> do. For example, I seem to have become the de facto presenter for a group to 
> which I belong whereat I must show a PowerePoint presentation. I've 
> discovered that Keynote doesn't read the embedded text, but the Windows 
> equivalents--PowerPoint and OpeneOffice--do. Is there a way to do this in 
> Keynote for MacOS?
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