Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
That’s so weird. But I’m glad to know someone else had that issue. I couldn’t imagine why I would have chosen that setting. At least this offers an explanation. And, at least it was an easy fix, once Brad suggested I check it out. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 3, 2024, at 9:39 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > > Sent from my IPhone > > >> On Jul 3, 2024, at 10:38 AM, Phil Halton wrote: >> >> I was watching this thpread wondering if anybody would come upon that >> problem and it seems you did Donna Just before I piped in. I had the same >> problem when I upgraded to Sonoma. It seems like VO defaults to have the >> mouse pointer track the VO cursor and disassociating the two of them solves >> that problem of menu navigation. Matter fact Brad I think you’re the one >> that told me about it. >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >>> On Jul 3, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Brad Snyder wrote: >>> >>> >>> OK, good to know. >>> Glad you got it fixed. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2024, at 07:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hey, Brad, thanks! I’m not sure why, but my Mouse Pointer was set to >>> Moves Voiceover Cursor. I’m a little perplexed by that, because I can’t >>> imagine that I would have set it that way, but changing it to ignores VO >>> cursor solved the issue. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 10:11 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote: OK, now I am the one who is confused. Other than the changes to Quick Key Navigation, there is little difference in Sonoma, compared to Ventura. I have been using Sonoma since it was released in October, with no issues. I have found Sonoma to be a very stable release. The only thing I can think of, is to make sure that your mouse pointer is set to ignore the VoiceOver cursor. You can do this in VoiceOver Utility > Navigation, and look for the item labeled “Ignores VoiceOver cursor Mouse pointer: pop up button”. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2024, at 21:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Brad, Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused. None of the settings in Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all. Single key Quicknav is turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items. If I press Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not Found. I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this change, but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to make VO function as it did in Ventura. TIA, Donna > On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote: > > Rebooting won’t fix this issue. > You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q. > This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple > changed how it works with the introduction of Sonoma. > In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to > modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original > functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma. > Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and > here you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma. > > HTH. > > - Brad - > > > > On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Herbie, > > I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some > setting I need to change? > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: >> >> Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your >> exact steps and had no issues. >> >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the >>> messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The >>> only way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through >>> all the menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under >>> Messages until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way >>> to do this in Sonoma? >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: mk...@ucla
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
Sent from my IPhoneOn Jul 3, 2024, at 10:38 AM, Phil Halton wrote:I was watching this thpread wondering if anybody would come upon that problem and it seems you did Donna Just before I piped in. I had the same problem when I upgraded to Sonoma. It seems like VO defaults to have the mouse pointer track the VO cursor and disassociating the two of them solves that problem of menu navigation. Matter fact Brad I think you’re the one that told me about it.Sent from my IPhoneOn Jul 3, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:OK, good to know.Glad you got it fixed.- Brad -On Jul 3, 2024, at 07:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hey, Brad, thanks! I’m not sure why, but my Mouse Pointer was set to Moves Voiceover Cursor. I’m a little perplexed by that, because I can’t imagine that I would have set it that way, but changing it to ignores VO cursor solved the issue.Cheers,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 10:11 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:OK, now I am the one who is confused.Other than the changes to Quick Key Navigation, there is little difference in Sonoma, compared to Ventura.I have been using Sonoma since it was released in October, with no issues.I have found Sonoma to be a very stable release.The only thing I can think of, is to make sure that your mouse pointer is set to ignore the VoiceOver cursor.You can do this in VoiceOver Utility > Navigation, and look for the item labeled “Ignores VoiceOver cursor Mouse pointer: pop up button”. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2024, at 21:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi Brad,Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused. None of the settings in Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all. Single key Quicknav is turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items. If I press Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not Found. I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this change, but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to make VO function as it did in Ventura.TIA,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:Rebooting won’t fix this issue.You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q.This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed how it works with the introduction of Sonoma.In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma.Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma.HTH.- Brad -On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi Herbie,I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I need to change?Cheers,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact steps and had no issues.On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi all,I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma?TIA,Donna-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googleg
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
I was watching this thpread wondering if anybody would come upon that problem and it seems you did Donna Just before I piped in. I had the same problem when I upgraded to Sonoma. It seems like VO defaults to have the mouse pointer track the VO cursor and disassociating the two of them solves that problem of menu navigation. Matter fact Brad I think you’re the one that told me about it.Sent from my IPhoneOn Jul 3, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:OK, good to know.Glad you got it fixed.- Brad -On Jul 3, 2024, at 07:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hey, Brad, thanks! I’m not sure why, but my Mouse Pointer was set to Moves Voiceover Cursor. I’m a little perplexed by that, because I can’t imagine that I would have set it that way, but changing it to ignores VO cursor solved the issue.Cheers,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 10:11 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:OK, now I am the one who is confused.Other than the changes to Quick Key Navigation, there is little difference in Sonoma, compared to Ventura.I have been using Sonoma since it was released in October, with no issues.I have found Sonoma to be a very stable release.The only thing I can think of, is to make sure that your mouse pointer is set to ignore the VoiceOver cursor.You can do this in VoiceOver Utility > Navigation, and look for the item labeled “Ignores VoiceOver cursor Mouse pointer: pop up button”. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2024, at 21:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi Brad,Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused. None of the settings in Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all. Single key Quicknav is turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items. If I press Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not Found. I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this change, but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to make VO function as it did in Ventura.TIA,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:Rebooting won’t fix this issue.You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q.This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed how it works with the introduction of Sonoma.In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma.Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma.HTH.- Brad -On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi Herbie,I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I need to change?Cheers,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact steps and had no issues.On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi all,I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma?TIA,Donna-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed t
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
OK, good to know.Glad you got it fixed.- Brad -On Jul 3, 2024, at 07:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hey, Brad, thanks! I’m not sure why, but my Mouse Pointer was set to Moves Voiceover Cursor. I’m a little perplexed by that, because I can’t imagine that I would have set it that way, but changing it to ignores VO cursor solved the issue.Cheers,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 10:11 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:OK, now I am the one who is confused.Other than the changes to Quick Key Navigation, there is little difference in Sonoma, compared to Ventura.I have been using Sonoma since it was released in October, with no issues.I have found Sonoma to be a very stable release.The only thing I can think of, is to make sure that your mouse pointer is set to ignore the VoiceOver cursor.You can do this in VoiceOver Utility > Navigation, and look for the item labeled “Ignores VoiceOver cursor Mouse pointer: pop up button”. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2024, at 21:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi Brad,Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused. None of the settings in Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all. Single key Quicknav is turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items. If I press Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not Found. I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this change, but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to make VO function as it did in Ventura.TIA,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote:Rebooting won’t fix this issue.You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q.This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed how it works with the introduction of Sonoma.In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma.Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma.HTH.- Brad -On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi Herbie,I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I need to change?Cheers,DonnaOn Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote:Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact steps and had no issues.On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:Hi all,I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma?TIA,Donna-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of th
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
Hey, Brad, thanks! I’m not sure why, but my Mouse Pointer was set to Moves Voiceover Cursor. I’m a little perplexed by that, because I can’t imagine that I would have set it that way, but changing it to ignores VO cursor solved the issue. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 2, 2024, at 10:11 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote: > > OK, now I am the one who is confused. > Other than the changes to Quick Key Navigation, there is little difference in > Sonoma, compared to Ventura. > I have been using Sonoma since it was released in October, with no issues. > I have found Sonoma to be a very stable release. > The only thing I can think of, is to make sure that your mouse pointer is set > to ignore the VoiceOver cursor. > You can do this in VoiceOver Utility > Navigation, and look for the item > labeled “Ignores VoiceOver cursor Mouse pointer: pop up button”. > > > - Brad - > > > > On Jul 2, 2024, at 21:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Brad, > > Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused. None of the settings in > Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all. Single key Quicknav is > turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items. If I press > Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the > keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not > Found. I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this change, > but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to make VO > function as it did in Ventura. > TIA, > Donna > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote: >> >> Rebooting won’t fix this issue. >> You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q. >> This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed >> how it works with the introduction of Sonoma. >> In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to >> modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original >> functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma. >> Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here >> you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma. >> >> HTH. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi Herbie, >> >> I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I >> need to change? >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: >>> >>> Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact >>> steps and had no issues. >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi all, I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma? TIA, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisio
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
OK, now I am the one who is confused. Other than the changes to Quick Key Navigation, there is little difference in Sonoma, compared to Ventura. I have been using Sonoma since it was released in October, with no issues. I have found Sonoma to be a very stable release. The only thing I can think of, is to make sure that your mouse pointer is set to ignore the VoiceOver cursor. You can do this in VoiceOver Utility > Navigation, and look for the item labeled “Ignores VoiceOver cursor Mouse pointer: pop up button”. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2024, at 21:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Brad, Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused. None of the settings in Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all. Single key Quicknav is turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items. If I press Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not Found. I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this change, but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to make VO function as it did in Ventura. TIA, Donna > On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote: > > Rebooting won’t fix this issue. > You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q. > This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed > how it works with the introduction of Sonoma. > In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to > modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original > functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma. > Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here > you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma. > > HTH. > > - Brad - > > > > On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Herbie, > > I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I > need to change? > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: >> >> Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact >> steps and had no issues. >> >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the >>> messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only >>> way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the >>> menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages >>> until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in >>> Sonoma? >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this lis
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
Hi Brad, Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused. None of the settings in Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all. Single key Quicknav is turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items. If I press Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not Found. I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this change, but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to make VO function as it did in Ventura. TIA, Donna > On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder wrote: > > Rebooting won’t fix this issue. > You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q. > This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed > how it works with the introduction of Sonoma. > In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to > modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original > functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma. > Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here > you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma. > > HTH. > > - Brad - > > > > On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Herbie, > > I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I > need to change? > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: >> >> Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact >> steps and had no issues. >> >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the >>> messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only >>> way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the >>> menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages >>> until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in >>> Sonoma? >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop recei
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
Rebooting won’t fix this issue. You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q. This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed how it works with the introduction of Sonoma. In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma. Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma. HTH. - Brad - On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Herbie, I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I need to change? Cheers, Donna > On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: > > Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact > steps and had no issues. > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the >> messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only >> way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the >> menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until >> I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma? >> TIA, >> Donna >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/47CDF8D8-80C8-4290-9F3D-B486524E160B%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvision
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
Yes, the Apple thing is rather interesting in the menu, but typing in mes real quick should work. Me should also work. > On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > One more thing. In Ventura, when I pressed VO-M, VO said Menu. Now when I > press it, it says Apple, and it seems to actually go into the Apple menu. I > say this because, when I type the letters MES, I am taken to recent items. > So it seems that by pressing VO-M, I’m automatically taken into the apple > menu, not the upper layer of the menu list. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 7:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi Herbie, >> >> I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I >> need to change? >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: >>> >>> Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact >>> steps and had no issues. >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi all, I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma? TIA, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/47CDF8D8-80C8-4290-9F3D-B486524E160B%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionar
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
One more thing. In Ventura, when I pressed VO-M, VO said Menu. Now when I press it, it says Apple, and it seems to actually go into the Apple menu. I say this because, when I type the letters MES, I am taken to recent items. So it seems that by pressing VO-M, I’m automatically taken into the apple menu, not the upper layer of the menu list. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 2, 2024, at 7:11 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Herbie, > > I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I > need to change? > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: >> >> Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact >> steps and had no issues. >> >>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the >>> messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only >>> way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the >>> menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages >>> until I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in >>> Sonoma? >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/47CDF8D8-80C8-4290-9F3D-B486524E160B%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
Hi Herbie, I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some setting I need to change? Cheers, Donna > On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: > > Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact > steps and had no issues. > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the >> messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only >> way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the >> menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until >> I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma? >> TIA, >> Donna >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/47CDF8D8-80C8-4290-9F3D-B486524E160B%40me.com.
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
I did, but I’ll try rebooting the Mac. Cheers, Donna > On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen wrote: > > Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact > steps and had no issues. > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the >> messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only >> way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the >> menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until >> I get the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma? >> TIA, >> Donna >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9FCC0044-E813-4C3F-AD5C-BCD1A1D39AB1%40me.com.
Re: Menu navigation in Mail in Sonoma
Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact steps and had no issues. > On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just upgraded to Sonoma. In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the > messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES. The only way > I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the menu > options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages until I get > the option I want. Is there really no faster way to do this in Sonoma? > TIA, > Donna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49DC1935-A482-4C37-9406-FFF6EECC4C63%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A990A991-048F-484C-9432-CC543FE00AD6%40gmail.com.
