subject:"Re\: Safari debug and videos"

Re: Safari debug and videos

2023-03-28 Thread Traci Duncan

Thank you for this reply. I knew next to nothing about live regions. Here is 
the Apple Support page about them. In case it helps others.

https://support.apple.com/guide/voiceover/by-live-regions-vo34654/mac
Thanks,
Traci

> On Mar 26, 2023, at 9:30 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Autoplay is a feature fully embedded into the system preferences for a few 
> years now.
> First open your safari settings and then click on the web sites tab.
> In the first table is an item “auto play”, this will then show a list of 
> active tabs nd customized sites. Each will have three choices:
> 1. Never autoplay  
> 2. Auto play always 
> 3. Don’t autoplay with sound.
> 
> I believe however you were complaining bout the messages 
> This add will end in 5 seconds.
> This is a “live region message”
> Live regions can be turned off in  VoiceOver utility in the web area 
> the specific control is "Enable Live Regions “ 
> Note, if you disable live regions, then  some status updates that get sent to 
> screen reader users like the gmail announcement that you deleted a message or 
> the contents in a web chat  the other  will no longer auto speak. You can use 
> an activity to customize this if you need that level of control.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 1:21 PM, Traci Duncan > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, after doing a little more Googling, the debug menu may not be available 
>> for Ventura. If it is, it might be in the developer’s menu.
>> 
>> *Sighs, guess this won’t solve my ad video countdown. 
>> 
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Dave Carlson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tracey,
>>> 
>>> Just tried this, but cannot find the new debug menu anywhere. Should it 
>>> appear to the right of the help menu? Not sure what to the right and on top 
>>> means.
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician
>>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 7:57 AM, Traci Duncan >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, in my continued quest to stop videos from playing and Voiceover 
>>> counting down this ad will stop in so many seconds, I came across this 
>>> idea. What do you think?
>>> 
>>> From Mac World. 
>>> Safari has a debug menu that can be used to stop autoplaying video, but 
>>> first we need to activate the debug menu using Terminal.
>>> 
>>> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu 1
>>> 
>>> Close Terminal, and reopen Safari. You’ll see a new option at the righthand 
>>> end of the top menu bar: Debug. Click this, then select Media Flags > 
>>> Disallow Inline Video.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That’s it! (If you want to get rid of that Debug menu option, go back to 
>>> Terminal and enter
>>> 
>>> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu 0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Safari debug and videos

2023-03-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn

Hello,
Autoplay is a feature fully embedded into the system preferences for a few 
years now.
First open your safari settings and then click on the web sites tab.
In the first table is an item “auto play”, this will then show a list of active 
tabs nd customized sites. Each will have three choices:
1. Never autoplay  
2. Auto play always 
3. Don’t autoplay with sound.

I believe however you were complaining bout the messages 
This add will end in 5 seconds.
This is a “live region message”
Live regions can be turned off in  VoiceOver utility in the web area 
the specific control is "Enable Live Regions “ 
Note, if you disable live regions, then  some status updates that get sent to 
screen reader users like the gmail announcement that you deleted a message or 
the contents in a web chat  the other  will no longer auto speak. You can use 
an activity to customize this if you need that level of control.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 22, 2023, at 1:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi, after doing a little more Googling, the debug menu may not be available 
> for Ventura. If it is, it might be in the developer’s menu.
> 
> *Sighs, guess this won’t solve my ad video countdown. 
> 
> Traci
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Dave Carlson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Tracey,
>> 
>> Just tried this, but cannot find the new debug menu anywhere. Should it 
>> appear to the right of the help menu? Not sure what to the right and on top 
>> means.
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
>> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician
>> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 7:57 AM, Traci Duncan > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, in my continued quest to stop videos from playing and Voiceover 
>> counting down this ad will stop in so many seconds, I came across this idea. 
>> What do you think?
>> 
>> From Mac World. 
>> Safari has a debug menu that can be used to stop autoplaying video, but 
>> first we need to activate the debug menu using Terminal.
>> 
>> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu 1
>> 
>> Close Terminal, and reopen Safari. You’ll see a new option at the righthand 
>> end of the top menu bar: Debug. Click this, then select Media Flags > 
>> Disallow Inline Video.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That’s it! (If you want to get rid of that Debug menu option, go back to 
>> Terminal and enter
>> 
>> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu 0
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> 
>> 
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Re: Safari debug and videos

2023-03-22 Thread Traci Duncan

Hi, after doing a little more Googling, the debug menu may not be available for 
Ventura. If it is, it might be in the developer’s menu.

*Sighs, guess this won’t solve my ad video countdown. 

Traci


> On Mar 22, 2023, at 8:06 AM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Tracey,
> 
> Just tried this, but cannot find the new debug menu anywhere. Should it 
> appear to the right of the help menu? Not sure what to the right and on top 
> means.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 7:57 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, in my continued quest to stop videos from playing and Voiceover 
> counting down this ad will stop in so many seconds, I came across this idea. 
> What do you think?
> 
> From Mac World. 
> Safari has a debug menu that can be used to stop autoplaying video, but first 
> we need to activate the debug menu using Terminal.
> 
> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu 1
> 
> Close Terminal, and reopen Safari. You’ll see a new option at the righthand 
> end of the top menu bar: Debug. Click this, then select Media Flags > 
> Disallow Inline Video.
> 
> 
> 
> That’s it! (If you want to get rid of that Debug menu option, go back to 
> Terminal and enter
> 
> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu 0
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
> 
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Re: Safari debug and videos

2023-03-22 Thread Dave Carlson

Tracey,

Just tried this, but cannot find the new debug menu anywhere. Should it appear 
to the right of the help menu? Not sure what to the right and on top means.

Dave Carlson
Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com




On Mar 22, 2023, at 7:57 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all, in my continued quest to stop videos from playing and Voiceover 
counting down this ad will stop in so many seconds, I came across this idea. 
What do you think?

>From Mac World. 
Safari has a debug menu that can be used to stop autoplaying video, but first 
we need to activate the debug menu using Terminal.

defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu 1

Close Terminal, and reopen Safari. You’ll see a new option at the righthand end 
of the top menu bar: Debug. Click this, then select Media Flags > Disallow 
Inline Video.



That’s it! (If you want to get rid of that Debug menu option, go back to 
Terminal and enter

defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu 0



Thanks,
Traci


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