subject:"Re\: Voices in Sierra"

Re: voices high sierra

2017-09-26 Thread christopher hallsworth

Hello, glad you have sorted it, but it's a radical change in High Sierra. You 
now interact with the activities scroll area, interact with the customize 
language list table then go from there.

> On 26 Sep 2017, at 16:19, Wayne Coles  wrote:
> 
> hello thankks i have it now thanks
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:11 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You do this through Voiceover utility.  Open Voiceover utility with vo+f8, 
>> then down to the category "Speech" then right to "default voice" popup 
>> button where you activate "customize" dialog and choose your voice to 
>> download.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 03:06, Wayne Coles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello list can anyone please remind me on how to download voices again i 
>>> have lost sam and can’t remember how to get the voices again thanks advance 
>>>
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Re: voices high sierra

2017-09-26 Thread Wayne Coles

hello thankks i have it now thanks  

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:11 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You do this through Voiceover utility.  Open Voiceover utility with vo+f8, 
> then down to the category "Speech" then right to "default voice" popup button 
> where you activate "customize" dialog and choose your voice to download.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 03:06, Wayne Coles  wrote:
>> 
>> hello list can anyone please remind me on how to download voices again i 
>> have lost sam and can’t remember how to get the voices again thanks advance 
>> 
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Re: voices high sierra

2017-09-26 Thread christopher hallsworth

Hello, sorry for the rant. It is unbelievable the original poster touts this as 
a "major bug", when it's possibly a typo and would be clased as a "minor bug". 
In my limited testing of the beta, I discovered this, but would never class 
this as anything major. The feature is still fully functional, like before. The 
wording has just changed, that is all. Whether this will be fixed is likely but 
remains to be seen.
> On 26 Sep 2017, at 12:32, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> Correct.  This is where the person is saying that it says Activities which is 
> valid.  It’s probably either a change of wording or just a typing mistake.  
> Either or it will probably be fixed in a future release.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 1:11 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You do this through Voiceover utility.  Open Voiceover utility with vo+f8, 
>> then down to the category "Speech" then right to "default voice" popup 
>> button where you activate "customize" dialog and choose your voice to 
>> download.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 03:06, Wayne Coles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello list can anyone please remind me on how to download voices again i 
>>> have lost sam and can’t remember how to get the voices again thanks advance 
>>>
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Re: voices high sierra

2017-09-26 Thread Scott Berry

Correct.  This is where the person is saying that it says Activities which is 
valid.  It’s probably either a change of wording or just a typing mistake.  
Either or it will probably be fixed in a future release.



> On Sep 26, 2017, at 1:11 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You do this through Voiceover utility.  Open Voiceover utility with vo+f8, 
> then down to the category "Speech" then right to "default voice" popup button 
> where you activate "customize" dialog and choose your voice to download.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 26 Sep 2017, at 03:06, Wayne Coles  wrote:
>> 
>> hello list can anyone please remind me on how to download voices again i 
>> have lost sam and can’t remember how to get the voices again thanks advance 
>> 
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Re: voices high sierra

2017-09-26 Thread Andrew Lamanche

Hi,

You do this through Voiceover utility.  Open Voiceover utility with vo+f8, then 
down to the category "Speech" then right to "default voice" popup button where 
you activate "customize" dialog and choose your voice to download.

Andrew
> On 26 Sep 2017, at 03:06, Wayne Coles  wrote:
> 
> hello list can anyone please remind me on how to download voices again i have 
> lost sam and can’t remember how to get the voices again thanks advance  
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Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-12 Thread Ray Foret jr

There might be another folder in to which those voices need to be put.  Bear in 
mind I’m using L Capitan and not Sierra and so can be of no help there.


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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Ray. Those voices are there as you say but they don't work with Voiceover.
> 
> Shawn
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>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Let me look and see a second.
>> 
>> Found it I think.  Here’s the path.
>> 
>> Macintosh/System/Library/Speech/Voices  and from that point on, each voice 
>> is assigned its own folder.
>> 
>> So, I’m guessing that the male Siri voice would have this path:
>> 
>> Macintosh/System/Library/Speech/Voices/Aaron folder.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Ray, is there a specific folder you put voices if you want them to work 
>>> with Voiceover? If so, where?
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
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>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi John. No, unfortunately not. BTW the preference pain to change voices 
>>>> in system prefs is accessibility.
>>>> 
>>>> Shawn
>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do they show up in the list of voices available for non VoiceOver speech? 
>>>>> I understand the Dictation and Voice control panel might have been 
>>>>> renamed, so I can't give a hint as to where to look.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Best wishes,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 3:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The strange thing about that is that if you go into the finder, 
>>>>>> Mackintosh HD, library, system, speech, and voices, you can see all the 
>>>>>> Siri voices there. I'd love it if there was something out there to make 
>>>>>> them work with Voiceover.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:15 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver 
>>>>>>> Utility.
>>>>>>>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we

Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

Hey Ray. Those voices are there as you say but they don't work with Voiceover.

Shawn
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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Let me look and see a second.
> 
> Found it I think.  Here’s the path.
> 
> Macintosh/System/Library/Speech/Voices  and from that point on, each voice is 
> assigned its own folder.
> 
> So, I’m guessing that the male Siri voice would have this path:
> 
> Macintosh/System/Library/Speech/Voices/Aaron folder.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Ray, is there a specific folder you put voices if you want them to work 
>> with Voiceover? If so, where?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John. No, unfortunately not. BTW the preference pain to change voices in 
>>> system prefs is accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
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>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Do they show up in the list of voices available for non VoiceOver speech? 
>>>> I understand the Dictation and Voice control panel might have been 
>>>> renamed, so I can't give a hint as to where to look.
>>>> 
>>>>Best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 3:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The strange thing about that is that if you go into the finder, 
>>>>> Mackintosh HD, library, system, speech, and voices, you can see all the 
>>>>> Siri voices there. I'd love it if there was something out there to make 
>>>>> them work with Voiceover.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shawn
>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:15 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver 
>>>>>> Utility.
>>>>>>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
>>>>>>> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was 
>>>>>>> talk about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 
>>>>>>> 9, but as far as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX 
>>>>>>> side, as we thought they would.
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
>>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>>>>> From: John Panarese
>>>>>>>> To: macvision

Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-11 Thread Ray Foret jr

Let me look and see a second.

Found it I think.  Here’s the path.

Macintosh/System/Library/Speech/Voices  and from that point on, each voice is 
assigned its own folder.

So, I’m guessing that the male Siri voice would have this path:

Macintosh/System/Library/Speech/Voices/Aaron folder.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Ray, is there a specific folder you put voices if you want them to work 
> with Voiceover? If so, where?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John. No, unfortunately not. BTW the preference pain to change voices in 
>> system prefs is accessibility.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do they show up in the list of voices available for non VoiceOver speech? I 
>>> understand the Dictation and Voice control panel might have been renamed, 
>>> so I can't give a hint as to where to look.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 3:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The strange thing about that is that if you go into the finder, Mackintosh 
>>>> HD, library, system, speech, and voices, you can see all the Siri voices 
>>>> there. I'd love it if there was something out there to make them work with 
>>>> Voiceover.
>>>> 
>>>> Shawn
>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:15 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver 
>>>>> Utility.
>>>>>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
>>>>>> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was 
>>>>>> talk about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, 
>>>>>> but as far as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX side, as 
>>>>>> we thought they would.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>>>> From: John Panarese
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:00 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voices in Sierra
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way 
>>>>>>> towards the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO 
>>>>>>> Utility when you use the popup menu for default voice?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>

Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

Hey Ray, is there a specific folder you put voices if you want them to work 
with Voiceover? If so, where?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi John. No, unfortunately not. BTW the preference pain to change voices in 
> system prefs is accessibility.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do they show up in the list of voices available for non VoiceOver speech? I 
>> understand the Dictation and Voice control panel might have been renamed, so 
>> I can't give a hint as to where to look.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 3:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The strange thing about that is that if you go into the finder, Mackintosh 
>>> HD, library, system, speech, and voices, you can see all the Siri voices 
>>> there. I'd love it if there was something out there to make them work with 
>>> Voiceover.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:15 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver 
>>>> Utility.
>>>>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
>>>>> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was 
>>>>> talk about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, 
>>>>> but as far as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX side, as 
>>>>> we thought they would.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>>> From: John Panarese
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:00 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voices in Sierra
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way 
>>>>>> towards the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO 
>>>>>> Utility when you use the popup menu for default voice?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com>
>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up in 
>>>>>>> the speech rotor. That one

Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

Hi John. No, unfortunately not. BTW the preference pain to change voices in 
system prefs is accessibility.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do they show up in the list of voices available for non VoiceOver speech? I 
> understand the Dictation and Voice control panel might have been renamed, so 
> I can't give a hint as to where to look.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 3:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The strange thing about that is that if you go into the finder, Mackintosh 
>> HD, library, system, speech, and voices, you can see all the Siri voices 
>> there. I'd love it if there was something out there to make them work with 
>> Voiceover.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:15 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>> <challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver 
>>> Utility.
>>>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
>>>> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was 
>>>> talk about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, 
>>>> but as far as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX side, as 
>>>> we thought they would.
>>>> ---
>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>> 
>>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>> From: John Panarese
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Voices in Sierra
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way 
>>>>> towards the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO 
>>>>> Utility when you use the popup menu for default voice?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>>>> 
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>> 
>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up in 
>>>>>> the speech rotor. That one is Samantha. What's keeping her out of sight?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
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>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
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>>>>>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
>>>>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@cara

Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-11 Thread Ray Foret jr

I should think that if that is the case, it would be possible to copy those 
voices over in to the voice folder for voice over to make them work yes?


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> The strange thing about that is that if you go into the finder, Mackintosh 
> HD, library, system, speech, and voices, you can see all the Siri voices 
> there. I'd love it if there was something out there to make them work with 
> Voiceover.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:15 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver 
>> Utility.
>>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
>>> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was 
>>> talk about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, 
>>> but as far as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX side, as we 
>>> thought they would.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: John Panarese
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Voices in Sierra
>>>> 
>>>>   I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way towards 
>>>> the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO Utility when 
>>>> you use the popup menu for default voice?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>>> 
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>> 
>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up in 
>>>>> the speech rotor. That one is Samantha. What's keeping her out of sight?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
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Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-11 Thread Jonathan Cohn

Do they show up in the list of voices available for non VoiceOver speech? I 
understand the Dictation and Voice control panel might have been renamed, so I 
can't give a hint as to where to look.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Oct 11, 2016, at 3:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> The strange thing about that is that if you go into the finder, Mackintosh 
> HD, library, system, speech, and voices, you can see all the Siri voices 
> there. I'd love it if there was something out there to make them work with 
> Voiceover.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:15 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver 
>> Utility.
>>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
>>> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was 
>>> talk about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, 
>>> but as far as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX side, as we 
>>> thought they would.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: John Panarese
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Voices in Sierra
>>>> 
>>>>   I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way towards 
>>>> the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO Utility when 
>>>> you use the popup menu for default voice?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> 
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>> 
>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>>> 
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>> 
>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up in 
>>>>> the speech rotor. That one is Samantha. What's keeping her out of sight?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
>>>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-11 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

The strange thing about that is that if you go into the finder, Mackintosh HD, 
library, system, speech, and voices, you can see all the Siri voices there. I'd 
love it if there was something out there to make them work with Voiceover.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:15 AM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver Utility.
>> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
>> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was talk 
>> about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, but as 
>> far as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX side, as we thought 
>> they would.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: John Panarese
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Voices in Sierra
>>> 
>>>I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way towards 
>>> the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO Utility when 
>>> you use the popup menu for default voice?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up in 
>>>> the speech rotor. That one is Samantha. What's keeping her out of sight?
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
>>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>> 
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Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-11 Thread christopher hallsworth

No they haven’t, at least it’s not in the list of voices in VoiceOver Utility.
> On 11 Oct 2016, at 03:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was talk 
> about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, but as 
> far as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX side, as we thought 
> they would.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
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>> I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way towards 
>> the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO Utility when 
>> you use the popup menu for default voice?
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>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
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>>>   I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up in 
>>> the speech rotor. That one is Samantha. What's keeping her out of sight?
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Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-10 Thread E.T.

   Yes. After doing the clean install and putting Infovox voices back, 
I selected the desired voices, Samantha is the only one who is a no show.


   Hmmm, I went back in and made Samantha the default and now she is in 
the rotor. Strange as I did not have to do this with the Infovox voices. 
Now I have all the voices I selected.


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On 10/10/2016 7:00 PM, John Panarese wrote:

I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way
towards the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO
Utility when you use the popup menu for default voice?


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On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. > wrote:

  I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up
in the speech rotor. That one is Samantha. What's keeping her out of
sight?

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Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-10 Thread John Panarese

   No, I thought so too, but they are not listed in the master table of voices.


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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 10:13 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
> Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was talk 
> about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, but as 
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>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: Voices in Sierra
>> 
>> I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way towards 
>> the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO Utility when 
>> you use the popup menu for default voice?
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up in 
>>> the speech rotor. That one is Samantha. What's keeping her out of sight?
>>> 
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Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-10 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Am I correct in my assumption that in Sierra we didn't get access with 
Voiceover to the male and female American Siri voices? I know there was talk 
about them possibly including them like they did starting in iOS 9, but as far 
as I can tell, they didn't actually do it on the OSX side, as we thought they 
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  Subject: Re: Voices in Sierra


  I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way towards 
the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO Utility when you 
use the popup menu for default voice?



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On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:


  I have several voices selected in VO Utility and all but one show up in 
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Re: Voices in Sierra

2016-10-10 Thread John Panarese

I just looked here and she is in my rotor, though all of the way towards 
the bottom mixed with other languages. Does she show up in VO Utility when you 
use the popup menu for default voice?


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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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