Re: difficulties working with attachments

[Ian Harrison]

Hi. I hope this helps. I have both El Capitan and High Sierra 
computers. El Capitan seems to still work as expected. When I save attachments 
I go to File then down to save attachment. Then a dialog box pops up allowing 
me to choose where to save.

In High Sierra what appears to happen is that when I click on the menu to save 
an attachment a finder window comes up rather than a dialog box. I then have to 
navigate through the finder windows to pick the folder I want to save in. 
Although voice over does not tell me, I then clicked on enter/return and I 
could then see the attachment in that folder. 

I usually do it this way as I am not much good at selecting within the email 
and then right clicking.

I could be wrong, but try the above workflow and see what happens.

HTH, Ian
> On 6 Apr 2018, at 15:25, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, not running with HS here at work, but with EC but there is a menu 
> available either right after the DELETE / REPLY / Reply All / Forward or else 
> as the very last item in the Header section of the e-mail message. It is a 
> button menu with the name as the number of attachments in the mail message.
> 
> Also, at least in 10.3 and earlier, attached documents that are in mail 
> messages were stored in ~/Library/Mail Downloads  now when I look through 
> ~/Library/Mail/v3  there is a folder for each mail account with a 
> folderName.mobx folder under that folder and then a folder with each message 
> inside of that which does have downloaded attachments in it. Though I would 
> expect that only pdf and inline graphics would be in that folder by default 
> and that other attachments might be only stored on the server until 
> requested. Again, I am viewing on my El Capitan system so some information 
> might have changed. 
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds like VO isn't focused on the attachment. Also, remember that 
>> attachments may not appear at the end of messages. Some mail clients, 
>> including the default ones on macOS and iOS, will embed attachments wherever 
>> the author wants them.
>> 
>> Because of this, and because of the focus you're running into, I tend to use 
>> the file menu instead. If you go to that menu while on a message, there's an 
>> option to save attachments. Select this, choose a folder as you would for 
>> saving a file in any other app, and you're done. This menu item has no 
>> keyboard shortcut, but you can assign one if you want to.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:25, aliFaisal  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I am having  lot of issues being able to open or save attachments on the 
>>> latest build of hi sera. Normally what I’ve been doing is going to the 
>>> bottom of the message, option ctrl m on the attachment and it will allow me 
>>> to open or save it that way. However, lately, the only options I am seeing 
>>> when manipulating attachments is copy and speech sub menu. There does not 
>>> appear to be a way for me to open or save it.
>>> Am I missing anything?,
>>> 
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Re: difficulties working with attachments

[Jonathan Cohn]

Sorry, not running with HS here at work, but with EC but there is a menu 
available either right after the DELETE / REPLY / Reply All / Forward or else 
as the very last item in the Header section of the e-mail message. It is a 
button menu with the name as the number of attachments in the mail message.

Also, at least in 10.3 and earlier, attached documents that are in mail 
messages were stored in ~/Library/Mail Downloads  now when I look through 
~/Library/Mail/v3  there is a folder for each mail account with a 
folderName.mobx folder under that folder and then a folder with each message 
inside of that which does have downloaded attachments in it. Though I would 
expect that only pdf and inline graphics would be in that folder by default and 
that other attachments might be only stored on the server until requested. 
Again, I am viewing on my El Capitan system so some information might have 
changed. 

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like VO isn't focused on the attachment. Also, remember that 
> attachments may not appear at the end of messages. Some mail clients, 
> including the default ones on macOS and iOS, will embed attachments wherever 
> the author wants them.
> 
> Because of this, and because of the focus you're running into, I tend to use 
> the file menu instead. If you go to that menu while on a message, there's an 
> option to save attachments. Select this, choose a folder as you would for 
> saving a file in any other app, and you're done. This menu item has no 
> keyboard shortcut, but you can assign one if you want to.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:25, aliFaisal  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I am having  lot of issues being able to open or save attachments on the 
>> latest build of hi sera. Normally what I’ve been doing is going to the 
>> bottom of the message, option ctrl m on the attachment and it will allow me 
>> to open or save it that way. However, lately, the only options I am seeing 
>> when manipulating attachments is copy and speech sub menu. There does not 
>> appear to be a way for me to open or save it.
>> Am I missing anything?,
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Re: difficulties working with attachments

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

On occasion, I've had the Mail app not bring up the Save dialog right away.  In 
some cases, I believe that it was just a VO focus thing, and in other cases, I 
just had to repeat the request.  That is, if it was a focus thing, cmd-tab out 
of Mail then cmd-tab back in and the dialog should be present, or simply repeat 
the File menu and Save Attachment request and the dialog should appear.  
Alternatively, the newest iteration of Mail is awkward when navigating through 
some messages.  Either use QuickNav or arrows without the VO keys until you 
locate the attachment.  Once located, you can then press VO-space and the 
proper menu may appear.  As Alex mentioned, if you are getting the menu choices 
you outlined, then VO focus is not on the proper item in the message area.

Later...
\
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 6, 2018, at 07:51, aliFaisal  wrote:

Hi Alex,
this was also my thinking, but I checked the downloads folder. and the 
attachment was not there. I did a spotlight search for the attachment, and the 
only hit I got was the email message with the attachment, not the actual 
attachment itself.
,


> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Really? I'm guessing they're going to your downloads folder, then. I thought 
> there was a way to change that to prompt for a location, but I'm not in front 
> of my Mac just now to verify.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:45, aliFaisal  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> Thank you for your response. However, accessing the save attachments from 
>> the menu does not bring  up a   dialogue box asking me where to save it. 
>> When I select that option, the menu disappears and I am brought back to my 
>> message in focus.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It sounds like VO isn't focused on the attachment. Also, remember that 
>>> attachments may not appear at the end of messages. Some mail clients, 
>>> including the default ones on macOS and iOS, will embed attachments 
>>> wherever the author wants them.
>>> 
>>> Because of this, and because of the focus you're running into, I tend to 
>>> use the file menu instead. If you go to that menu while on a message, 
>>> there's an option to save attachments. Select this, choose a folder as you 
>>> would for saving a file in any other app, and you're done. This menu item 
>>> has no keyboard shortcut, but you can assign one if you want to.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:25, aliFaisal  wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am having  lot of issues being able to open or save attachments on the 
 latest build of hi sera. Normally what I’ve been doing is going to the 
 bottom of the message, option ctrl m on the attachment and it will allow 
 me to open or save it that way. However, lately, the only options I am 
 seeing when manipulating attachments is copy and speech sub menu. There 
 does not appear to be a way for me to open or save it.
 Am I missing anything?,
 
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Re: difficulties working with attachments

[aliFaisal]

Hi Alex,
this was also my thinking, but I checked the downloads folder. and the 
attachment was not there. I did a spotlight search for the attachment, and the 
only hit I got was the email message with the attachment, not the actual 
attachment itself.
,


> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Really? I'm guessing they're going to your downloads folder, then. I thought 
> there was a way to change that to prompt for a location, but I'm not in front 
> of my Mac just now to verify.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:45, aliFaisal  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> Thank you for your response. However, accessing the save attachments from 
>> the menu does not bring  up a   dialogue box asking me where to save it. 
>> When I select that option, the menu disappears and I am brought back to my 
>> message in focus.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It sounds like VO isn't focused on the attachment. Also, remember that 
>>> attachments may not appear at the end of messages. Some mail clients, 
>>> including the default ones on macOS and iOS, will embed attachments 
>>> wherever the author wants them.
>>> 
>>> Because of this, and because of the focus you're running into, I tend to 
>>> use the file menu instead. If you go to that menu while on a message, 
>>> there's an option to save attachments. Select this, choose a folder as you 
>>> would for saving a file in any other app, and you're done. This menu item 
>>> has no keyboard shortcut, but you can assign one if you want to.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:25, aliFaisal  wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am having  lot of issues being able to open or save attachments on the 
 latest build of hi sera. Normally what I’ve been doing is going to the 
 bottom of the message, option ctrl m on the attachment and it will allow 
 me to open or save it that way. However, lately, the only options I am 
 seeing when manipulating attachments is copy and speech sub menu. There 
 does not appear to be a way for me to open or save it.
 Am I missing anything?,
 
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Re: difficulties working with attachments

[Alex Hall]

Really? I'm guessing they're going to your downloads folder, then. I thought 
there was a way to change that to prompt for a location, but I'm not in front 
of my Mac just now to verify.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:45, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alex,
> Thank you for your response. However, accessing the save attachments from the 
> menu does not bring  up a   dialogue box asking me where to save it. When I 
> select that option, the menu disappears and I am brought back to my message 
> in focus.
>
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> It sounds like VO isn't focused on the attachment. Also, remember that 
>> attachments may not appear at the end of messages. Some mail clients, 
>> including the default ones on macOS and iOS, will embed attachments wherever 
>> the author wants them.
>> 
>> Because of this, and because of the focus you're running into, I tend to use 
>> the file menu instead. If you go to that menu while on a message, there's an 
>> option to save attachments. Select this, choose a folder as you would for 
>> saving a file in any other app, and you're done. This menu item has no 
>> keyboard shortcut, but you can assign one if you want to.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:25, aliFaisal  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I am having  lot of issues being able to open or save attachments on the 
>>> latest build of hi sera. Normally what I’ve been doing is going to the 
>>> bottom of the message, option ctrl m on the attachment and it will allow me 
>>> to open or save it that way. However, lately, the only options I am seeing 
>>> when manipulating attachments is copy and speech sub menu. There does not 
>>> appear to be a way for me to open or save it.
>>> Am I missing anything?,
>>> 
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Re: difficulties working with attachments

[aliFaisal]

Hi Alex,
Thank you for your response. However, accessing the save attachments from the 
menu does not bring  up a   dialogue box asking me where to save it. When I 
select that option, the menu disappears and I am brought back to my message in 
focus.


> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like VO isn't focused on the attachment. Also, remember that 
> attachments may not appear at the end of messages. Some mail clients, 
> including the default ones on macOS and iOS, will embed attachments wherever 
> the author wants them.
> 
> Because of this, and because of the focus you're running into, I tend to use 
> the file menu instead. If you go to that menu while on a message, there's an 
> option to save attachments. Select this, choose a folder as you would for 
> saving a file in any other app, and you're done. This menu item has no 
> keyboard shortcut, but you can assign one if you want to.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:25, aliFaisal  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I am having  lot of issues being able to open or save attachments on the 
>> latest build of hi sera. Normally what I’ve been doing is going to the 
>> bottom of the message, option ctrl m on the attachment and it will allow me 
>> to open or save it that way. However, lately, the only options I am seeing 
>> when manipulating attachments is copy and speech sub menu. There does not 
>> appear to be a way for me to open or save it.
>> Am I missing anything?,
>> 
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Re: difficulties working with attachments

[Alex Hall]

It sounds like VO isn't focused on the attachment. Also, remember that 
attachments may not appear at the end of messages. Some mail clients, including 
the default ones on macOS and iOS, will embed attachments wherever the author 
wants them.

Because of this, and because of the focus you're running into, I tend to use 
the file menu instead. If you go to that menu while on a message, there's an 
option to save attachments. Select this, choose a folder as you would for 
saving a file in any other app, and you're done. This menu item has no keyboard 
shortcut, but you can assign one if you want to.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 09:25, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I am having  lot of issues being able to open or save attachments on the 
> latest build of hi sera. Normally what I’ve been doing is going to the bottom 
> of the message, option ctrl m on the attachment and it will allow me to open 
> or save it that way. However, lately, the only options I am seeing when 
> manipulating attachments is copy and speech sub menu. There does not appear 
> to be a way for me to open or save it.
> Am I missing anything?,
> 
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difficulties working with attachments

[aliFaisal]

Hello everyone,
I am having  lot of issues being able to open or save attachments on the latest 
build of hi sera. Normally what I’ve been doing is going to the bottom of the 
message, option ctrl m on the attachment and it will allow me to open or save 
it that way. However, lately, the only options I am seeing when manipulating 
attachments is copy and speech sub menu. There does not appear to be a way for 
me to open or save it.
Am I missing anything?,

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