Installing Maemo SDK 4 Beta Howto

Hi all, I wrote a simple howto that explain how to installa Maemo SDK 4 Beta on a Linux machine (in particular Debian/Ubuntu). You can find it here: http://www.ptlug.org/wiki/Howto_Installing_Maemo_SDK_4_Beta Any suggestion/idea/fix is welcome :) Best regards, -- Andrea Grandi email: [EMAIL P

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 18:22 +0300, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: > [1] A former collegue of mine had implemented the Finnish language > morphological model in Z-code, but it needed over 64Kb i.e. more > than the old adventure games written in Z-code... :-) Which is a mathematical proof that learning F

Anyone know where to get the VMWare application for maemo development?

please excuse my stupidity if this has been posted somewhere and I missed it, but what's the root password for this VM image? Thanks Jason ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-devel

Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta

ext Kemal Hadimli wrote: > Speaking of, does the SDL in Chinook (well, when used with > python/pygame) allow the XF86XK_Phone (0x1008ff6e) keycode to be > passed along? > > See http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/25147 for > explanation. > > If it does not work and works in d

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 00:00 +0200, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > What kind of rules do you have in mind yet? Almost no rules in mind. We'd prefer community minds to come up with the process. This includes community developers that also happen to work at Nokia (this is the case for some authors

Re: Cisco leap support for maemo / wpa-supplicant

"ext Rainer Dorsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Since wpa-supplicant is supporting leap since a long time, does anybody know, > if wpa-supplicant supports the cx3110x chip? Not yet. The Wireless Extension interface in cx3110x does not support WE-18 which wpa_supplicant needs. -- Kalle Valo _

[EMAIL PROTECTED] for extras apps (was Re: Steve's Ranty Review...)

PreS: moving this to maemo-developers since the target is clearly developers. On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 17:59 +, ext Steve Greenland wrote: > Well, that just means that there would need to be a single BTS for the > extra repository, which would be a good thing. Expecting users to track > down pack

Re: ARM MMU questions

>> (i.e. see my shared memory example code I sent to the list >> a few weeks ago, which runs on both 770 and N800). > > Yes, I've seen it. Please don't stop with such examples :-) Don't worry, there are more things in the pipeline :) >> Yes, that's why it's not mapped, but there shouldn't necess

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

Am Mittwoch, 24. Oktober 2007 schrieb Quim Gil: > This is an invitation to resume all previous discussions about "the > repository mess" and come up with conclusions and actions. Please read > this through and have a say, specially if you are maintaining a > repository with maemo packages out of ma

New release of Python2.5 for Maemo (r0.4-13)

I am pleased to announce Python2.5.1 for Maemo - r0.4-13 - OS2006/2007 (*PyMaemo Chinook will be released tomorrow) This new release is available from: http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org What's it? -- Python for Maemo (PyMaemo for short) main objective is to make possible to use Python pro

Re: ARM MMU questions

Simon Pickering wrote: > (i.e. see my shared memory example code I sent to the list > a few weeks ago, which runs on both 770 and N800). Yes, I've seen it. Please don't stop with such examples :-) > Yes, that's why it's not mapped, but there shouldn't necessarily be any > reason why it can't be r

Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta

Speaking of, does the SDL in Chinook (well, when used with python/pygame) allow the XF86XK_Phone (0x1008ff6e) keycode to be passed along? See http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/25147 for explanation. Best regards, Kemal > Eero Tamminen wrote: > > ext Klaus Rotter wrote: > >>

Re: Audio in on N800 and N810

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> What software are you using for PSK-31? > Interesting. I had wanted to port GMFSK over, but haven't had the time. What I was hoping to do was to use USB master mode to drive an external serial port and external sound device. Do you have any ideas on the CPU loading t

Re: Audio in on N800 and N810

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What software are you using for PSK-31? A hildon modified version of gpsk31, which I call MaemoPSK31. GPSK31 uses plain gtk calls to build its gui, so there weren't that much changes to get it running on the N800. I modified the waterfall code and of course the gui to

RE: ARM MMU questions

> > I'm looking to share the framebuffer between the ARM CPU and DSP and > > therefore would like to ask a few questions about the ARM MMU and in > > particular TLBs. > > Most probably it is related to DSP MMU not ARM MMU but I am not sure. > Until now I thought TLB (translation look-aside buff

gps listener

Hey Is there a way with the gps api to watch the gpsd/gps status without affecting it? I'd like to leave an app running which doesn't force gpsd startup & gps power-on but would use it whenever another app has started it... hopefully such an app would not force the gps to stay on... fwiw, I could

Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta

Eero Tamminen wrote: > ext Klaus Rotter wrote: >> Hm... I should have read that before. O.k. Funny thing that my >> bomberman package build straight away... > > Anything using SDL works fine on Chinook if it worked > on earlier release. Yes! But my game launcher uses Hildon/Gtk. I looked at the

Re: OS2008 pre-built image for download

> As commented when we announced the last 2006 Hacker Edition, there are > plans and ongoing work to bring the HE up to Chinook levels. Note that > this is not the same as offering the OS2008 for the 770. This is great news - I'm looking forward to (someday) flashing ChinookHE. :-D -- "Tak does

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

> This all sounds very positive to me. The only thing I'd add is that > Nokia/Maemo should consider providing a auto-builder service for Maemo > packages, such that > > - developers could upload source code packages > > - the autobuilder would attempt to build them, for all supported > platforms

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Hi, Marius Vollmer wrote: > Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> In general, we should try to reduce the need for context and >>> complicated translations. The classical example might: >>> >>>Searched in %d files and %d directories. >>> >>> You will never be able to translate this ni

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

On 10/24/07, Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is an invitation to resume all previous discussions about "the > > repository mess" and come up with conclusions and actions. Please read > > this through and have a say, specially if you are maint

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On ons, 2007-10-24 at 17:53 +0300, ext Marius Vollmer wrote: > Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> In general, we should try to reduce the need for context and > >> complicated translations. The classical example might: > >> > >>Searched in %d files and %d directories. > >> > >>

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In general, we should try to reduce the need for context and >> complicated translations. The classical example might: >> >>Searched in %d files and %d directories. >> >> You will never be able to translate this nicely for all languages >> because

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

> MISSION > > To provide the simplest interface for end users to get good quality > third party software that downloads and installs flawlessly, without > compromising their default system. [...] I know I'm adding something a bit "out-of-the-rails", but I think this subject is very important, a

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

* Mohammed Hassan | > msgfmt will happily provide you with statistics about untranslated | > strings and fuzzy translations, with the added bonus that it can be | > automated. | | Yes but it will not help differentiation _visually_ between an en_US or | en_GB string and an Engineering English on

Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta

And changing the name of libraries for pkgconfig Eero Tamminen a écrit : > Hi, > > ext Klaus Rotter wrote: >> Rafael Proença schrieb: Is this a bug or a new feature? >>> Neither. This is called API break, as you can see here: >>> http://maemo.org/development/sdks/api_changes_between_maemo_3

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This doesn't necessarily need to be provided by Nokia, autobuild could > be also provided by some external party. True. Perhaps, as this thread develops, Nokia will indicate whether or not they might look at doing this. Then, if the indication is "no"

Re: Maemo SDK 4.x beta

Hi, ext Klaus Rotter wrote: > Rafael Proença schrieb: >>> Is this a bug or a new feature? >> >> Neither. This is called API break, as you can see here: >> http://maemo.org/development/sdks/api_changes_between_maemo_3_2_and_maemo_4_0.html >> and some recents clues here: >> http://lists.maemo.org/

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 15:33 +0300, ext Igor Stoppa wrote: > Hi, > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 15:14 +0300, ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:56 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > > Kimmo Hämäläinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Wrong. It would depend on the context and

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 16:03 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > Mohammed Hassan wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:15 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: > >> And if you want to check the translation for common errors, > >> something like this can be used: > >> https://gramps.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroo

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 03:08:13PM +0300, Mohammed Hassan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:56 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > In general, we should try to reduce the need for context and > > complicated translations. The classical example might: > > > >Searched in %d files and %d directorie

Re: scratchbox problem after new installation

The perl version problem was fixed in the others mails :) On 10/24/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:27:34AM +0200, Mathias Uebelacker wrote: > > after installation, solving the resolve problem (thanks to Marius) and > > installing python via apt-get the

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

Hi, ext Neil Jerram wrote: > Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> This is an invitation to resume all previous discussions about "the >> repository mess" and come up with conclusions and actions. Please read >> this through and have a say, specially if you are maintaining a >> repository wit

Re: scratchbox problem after new installation

On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:27:34AM +0200, Mathias Uebelacker wrote: > after installation, solving the resolve problem (thanks to Marius) and > installing python via apt-get the basic problem is still the same. Every > time i call the run-standalone.sh ./myscript.py i get the error: > > File "./m

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Hi, Mohammed Hassan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:15 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: >> And if you want to check the translation for common errors, >> something like this can be used: >> https://gramps.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gramps/branches/gramps22/po/check_po >> >> (which of course doesn't

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 15:26 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 14:41 +0300, Mohammed Hassan wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:19 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > > > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 14:14 +0300, Mohammed Hassan wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:54 +0300, David Weineh

Re: GStreamer PCM sink stuttering/dropouts...

Stefan Kost schrieb: > Hi, Hi! > Nils Faerber schrieb: >> I am playing around with some GStreamer hacking and try to output a >> simply WAV file. In general this works even on commandline: >> gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=./wsh.wav \! wavparse \! dsppcmsink > any wav? or is it specific format?

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Hi, ext Marius Vollmer wrote: > Kimmo Hämäläinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Wrong. It would depend on the context and language. > > Yes, it COULD, fer-crying-out-loudly. :) We have the data now to > figure out whether it actually DOES for the set of our supported > languages. > >> And what

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

On 10/24/07, Neil Jerram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This all sounds very positive to me. The only thing I'd add is that > Nokia/Maemo should consider providing a auto-builder service for Maemo > packages, [...] Agreed, and as you reference mud-builder later on, I've *no* problem in the Maemo

Re: Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is an invitation to resume all previous discussions about "the > repository mess" and come up with conclusions and actions. Please read > this through and have a say, specially if you are maintaining a > repository with maemo packages out of maemo.org T

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Hi, On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 15:14 +0300, ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:56 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > Kimmo Hämäläinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Wrong. It would depend on the context and language. > > > > Yes, it COULD, fer-crying-out-loudly. :) We have th

Re: scratchbox problem after new installation

Hi, Did you start a Xephyr (or something that opens a X display) and run "af-sb-init.sh start" inside scratchbox? PyGtk requires an active display to be loaded properly. More info about Xephyr steps at: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html#settingup Rega

Future development

Hi I read a reasonable review of the N810 here, http://stuff.tv/blogs/future/archive/2007/10/17/hands-on-with-the-nokia-n810.aspx I'm about to have a go at maemo development, but I have question about the future and openness to develop. The review linked above, touches on the possibility of a SIM

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On ons, 2007-10-24 at 14:41 +0300, Mohammed Hassan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:19 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 14:14 +0300, Mohammed Hassan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:54 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > > > > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 12:47 +0300, ext Mohamme

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:56:46 +0300, ext Marius Vollmer wrote: > In general, we should try to reduce the need for context and > complicated translations. The classical example might: > >Searched in %d files and %d directories. > > You will never be able to translate this nicely for all lang

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 15:14 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > "ext Marius Vollmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > We change the code. Simple. Providing unneeded context is bad in my > > opinion, and the way we do it with the logical ids is excessivly ugly. > > Also, we provide excessive context

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:56 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > Kimmo Hämäläinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Wrong. It would depend on the context and language. > > Yes, it COULD, fer-crying-out-loudly. :) We have the data now to > figure out whether it actually DOES for the set of our supporte

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

"ext Marius Vollmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We change the code. Simple. Providing unneeded context is bad in my > opinion, and the way we do it with the logical ids is excessivly ugly. Also, we provide excessive context, but not very relevant context. Take "ai_bd_new_repository_ok" as an

Re: ARM MMU questions

Simon Pickering wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm looking to share the framebuffer between the ARM CPU and DSP and > therefore would like to ask a few questions about the ARM MMU and in > particular TLBs. Most probably it is related to DSP MMU not ARM MMU but I am not sure. Until now I thought TLB (tr

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For example, I have 9 logical ids that map to "OK", and 9 that map to > "Cancel" in the hildon-application-manager .po file: > > $ msgunfmt > /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/hildon-application-manager.mo | grep -B 1 > '"OK"' > msgid "ai_bd

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:56 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > Also, how do you know whether I use the correct context in my code? > Maybe I am using "ai_bd_ok" for all my "OK" buttons? Testing will reveal it. > In general, we should try to reduce the need for context and > complicated translations.

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Kimmo Hämäläinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wrong. It would depend on the context and language. Yes, it COULD, fer-crying-out-loudly. :) We have the data now to figure out whether it actually DOES for the set of our supported languages. > And what happens when you add a new, more 'context-se

Repositories mess: conclusions and actions

This is an invitation to resume all previous discussions about "the repository mess" and come up with conclusions and actions. Please read this through and have a say, specially if you are maintaining a repository with maemo packages out of maemo.org MISSION To provide the simplest interface for

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:12 +0300, ext Marius Vollmer wrote: ... > For example, I have 9 logical ids that map to "OK", and 9 that map to > "Cancel" in the hildon-application-manager .po file: > > $ msgunfmt > /usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/hildon-application-manager.mo | grep -B 1 > '"O

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:19 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 14:14 +0300, Mohammed Hassan wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:54 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > > > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 12:47 +0300, ext Mohammed Hassan wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:12 +0300, Marius V

ARM MMU questions

Hello all, I'm looking to share the framebuffer between the ARM CPU and DSP and therefore would like to ask a few questions about the ARM MMU and in particular TLBs. When I try mapping the framebuffer the following messages appear in dmesg: [10790.375152] omapdsp: 3 frame buffers found. we use f

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 14:15 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > And if you want to check the translation for common errors, > something like this can be used: > https://gramps.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gramps/branches/gramps22/po/check_po > > (which of course doesn't work with our "unique ID" be

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [...] but as a programmer I cannot be happy until we get proper > strings that have the same parameter format as the real strings, to > allow for proper argument checking by the compiler. Yes, but this is independent from whether we use logical ids or

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Hi, ext David Weinehall wrote: > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 12:47 +0300, ext Mohammed Hassan wrote: >> On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:12 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: The problem is the logical IDs are needed to maintain the smooth process. It's not easy to simply drop them. I did not say it's

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On ons, 2007-10-24 at 14:14 +0300, Mohammed Hassan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:54 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 12:47 +0300, ext Mohammed Hassan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:12 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > > > > The problem is the logical IDs are needed

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 13:54 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > On ons, 2007-10-24 at 12:47 +0300, ext Mohammed Hassan wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:12 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > > > The problem is the logical IDs are needed to maintain the smooth > > > > process. It's not easy to simply d

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On ons, 2007-10-24 at 12:47 +0300, ext Mohammed Hassan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:12 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > > The problem is the logical IDs are needed to maintain the smooth > > > process. It's not easy to simply drop them. I did not say it's > > > impossible. I didn't say it'll

Re: scratchbox problem after new installation

Hi, is there a correct lib path? On 10/24/07, Mathias Uebelacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > after installation, solving the resolve problem (thanks to Marius) and > installing python via apt-get the basic problem is still the same. Every > time i call the run-standalone.sh ./myscrip

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 12:12 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > The problem is the logical IDs are needed to maintain the smooth > > process. It's not easy to simply drop them. I did not say it's > > impossible. I didn't say it'll be done or it'll not. I'm just saying > > that they are needed ;-) >

Re: dealing with non-GTK windows

Hi, ext Tapani Pälli wrote: > ext Austin Che wrote: >> Tapani Pälli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Is it possible to force such a window into fullscreen? I don't care if it needs to be done manually. For example, is it possible to have a program that takes whatever win

maemo 4.0 Chinook beta SDK released

Nokia has released the beta version of the maemo 4.0 SDK , codenamed Chinook (shortcut for the impatient). Developers are encouraged to port their applications from maemo 3.x Bo

maemo 3.2 Bora released with minor updates

Maemo 3.2 Bora [1] consists of a minor release based on the Nokia Internet Tablet OS 2007 edition, feature upgrade [2]. It is fully compatible with the previous 3.x versions. Upgrading to this version is highly recommended in order to get the latest stable code and bugfixes. Developers using maemo

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Mohammed Hassan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 14:01 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: >> "ext Mohammed Hassan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > What I'd propose is we/I replace the logical IDs with Engineering >> > English in the POT files you use to translate and convert them

scratchbox problem after new installation

Hello, after installation, solving the resolve problem (thanks to Marius) and installing python via apt-get the basic problem is still the same. Every time i call the run-standalone.sh ./myscript.py i get the error: File "./myscript.py", line 2, in ? import gtk ImportError: No module named

Re: Themes for MAEMO platform

Hi, ext madhuri wrote: > I am new to MAEMO platform. I have installed Mamemo3.x successfully & able > to see hildon desktop. Now my aim is to view the themes for SDK_X86 target. > While doing google search I found that themes are available only for ARM > target. Are you talking about the 3rd pa

Re: Maemo localization to officially non-supported languages

Hi, ext Riku Voipio wrote: > Mohammed Hassan wrote: >>> It would be interesting to take our current translations and mine them >>> for the logical ids that map to the same Engineering English, but at >>> the same time have different translations in some language. These are >>> the cases where we

Re: dealing with non-GTK windows

Hello; ext Austin Che wrote: > Tapani Pälli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> - Is it possible to force such a window into fullscreen? I don't >>> care if it needs to be done manually. For example, is it >>> possible to have a program that takes whatever window is >>> cur