Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Bartosh
2009/10/29 Graham Cobb : > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 22:50:25 Ed Bartosh wrote: >> Somehow I don't like the idea of doing anything with the package >> without developer being aware of this. I'd rather implement check on >> autobuilder side to insure that packages are optified. Developer can >> u

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Bartosh
2009/10/29 Graham Cobb : > I think we should do the second item before Ed goes on holiday, even if it > means deferring the multiple package builds. We can then test it (setting > the header to auto in various packages) while Ed is away but there is minimal > danger of problems cropping up while h

Re: Extras-testing Marathon – Next Saturday (Oct 31)

2009-10-28 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Valerio Valerio wrote: > If you’re a developer, make sure your applications are in good shape > before the testing marathon. Any developers who would like Bugzilla products before the marathon starts, please email me the information listed on this page[1]: http://

Extras-testing Marathon – Next Saturday (Oct 31)

2009-10-28 Thread Valerio Valerio
Are you a lucky N900 owner ? Want to help the Maemo Community ? This call is for you. In the next Saturday(Oct 31) from 2pm till 7pm(UTC/GMT) we’ll host a testing marathon at #maemo-test...@freenode, in order to make more awesome community applications available for end users. This marathon will b

The issue of version strings

2009-10-28 Thread Ryan Abel
One thing I think it might be worth working on is the user- friendliness of the version strings of packages in Extras. We want the Application manager to be as friendly and approachable for the average user as possible and long incomprehensible lines of alphanumerics are a surefire way to sc

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 22:50:25 Ed Bartosh wrote: > Somehow I don't like the idea of doing anything with the package > without developer being aware of this. I'd rather implement check on > autobuilder side to insure that packages are optified. Developer can > use option XS-Maemo-Optify: none

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Bartosh
2009/10/28 Andrew Flegg : > Ed wrote: >> > >> > I've put together a suggested spec for the decision, taken at the >> > summit during the /opt BOF[1], that the auto-builder would run some >> > maemo-optify version during the build process (controlled by a control >> > file header): >> >> Sorry, I se

Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-28 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 18:28:24 Antti Vähä-Sipilä wrote: > > * MUST NOT introduce security risks. > > I'd rephrase "MUST NOT contain known security vulnerabilities" and > "MUST specify a security vulnerability reporting contact point". The second requirement is not reasonable. Many small p

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 20:39:57 Andrew Flegg wrote: > Ed wrote: > > BTW, when you want to have it done? > > I'm going to vacation in a couple of weeks. Before that I was going to > > finish implementation of multiple packages builds if I have time. > > i don't know, it's not my baby :-) One w

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laoide
I think it is good to be able to keep maemo-optify out of Build-Depends : This way we can keep the same debian control file for Diablo and Fremantle. I suppose the Diablo builder will only ignore the optify header ? Fred On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Ed Bartosh wrote: > 2009/10/28 Andrew Fleg

Maemo5 MicroB: javascript API for fullscreen, location, cursor enable?

2009-10-28 Thread Thomas Waelti
Hello all I'm looking for any information about MicroB maemo-specific javascript API to do the following things: - Switch to fullscreen - Access location information - Enable the cursor Any hints? Thanks -Tom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-d

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Andrew Flegg
Kamen wrote: > > Wouldn't it be better to leave the none option out considering the lack of > storage space in N900. It can be made available in Harmattan. The thought was that there might be a small, or niche, product which just wouldn't work with maemo-optify and changing it to use /opt would b

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Andrew Flegg
Ed wrote: > > > > I've put together a suggested spec for the decision, taken at the > > summit during the /opt BOF[1], that the auto-builder would run some > > maemo-optify version during the build process (controlled by a control > > file header): > > Sorry, I seem to miss the whole point of this

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Phonon uses GStreamer. Anyway if ou are using Qt, phonon is the best solution. Br, Antonio On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Cornelius Hald wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 19:49 +0200, Topi Hukkanen wrote: > > Thanks for the heads-up, Conny. > > > > But... could there be more things wrong? > > >

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009 schrieb Dirk Behme: > How do you guys connect USB to Beagle? Via USB 2.0 EHCI HS connector > (#8 in [1])? Or use USB 2.0 HS OTG connector (#12 in [1]) with a > special Mini-A plug? Most probably you then connect keyboard and mouse > at powered hub? Via OTG and a

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Tuomas Kulve
Dirk Behme wrote: > How do you guys connect USB to Beagle? Via USB 2.0 EHCI HS connector (#8 > in [1])? Or use USB 2.0 HS OTG connector (#12 in [1]) with a special > Mini-A plug? Most probably you then connect keyboard and mouse at > powered hub? > > I normally use OTG connector with special Mini

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Dirk Behme
tero.k...@nokia.com wrote: >>> - Disable screen blanking >> Unblanks when touching the USB mouse. >> >>> - Make (USB) mouse to show and work >> WORKSFORME. >> >> I'm using a D-Link DUB-E100 USB ethernet dongle and at least I managed >> to install openssh using that. I haven't tried anything else ye

Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-28 Thread Antti Vähä-Sipilä
>> "Known" is also tricky - known by whom? - but it could suffice, as if >> anyone who is actually involved in this QA checking "knows", it would >> trigger this. > > Perhaps a check against the CVE database? That could be a plus, but many vulnerabilities never get CVE entries (for various reaso

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Kamen Bundev
Wouldn't it be better to leave the none option out considering the lack of storage space in N900. It can be made available in Harmattan. Regards: Bundyo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listin

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Ed Bartosh
2009/10/28 Andrew Flegg : > Hi, > > I've put together a suggested spec for the decision, taken at the > summit during the /opt BOF[1], that the auto-builder would run some > maemo-optify version during the build process (controlled by a control > file header): > >http://talk.maemo.org/showthrea

Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Oct 28, 2009, at 19:28, Antti Vähä-Sipilä wrote: >> * MUST NOT introduce security risks. > > I'd rephrase "MUST NOT contain known security vulnerabilities" and > "MUST specify a security vulnerability reporting contact point". This makes sense to me. > > This would take the ambiguity out of a

Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Oct 28, 2009, at 16:45, Attila Csipa wrote: > On Wednesday 28 October 2009 15:23:14 Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> Actually, this is not that hard. The license information has to be in >> the debian/copyright file. If the package comes from debian, you can >> be pretty sure that the license (i.e. t

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 19:49 +0200, Topi Hukkanen wrote: > Thanks for the heads-up, Conny. > > But... could there be more things wrong? > > [sbox-FREMANTLE_X86: ~/test2] > run-standalone.sh pulseaudio > OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 405: oil_test_check_impl(): function > mas10_u8_mmx_2 in class mas10_u8

Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-28 Thread Antti Vähä-Sipilä
> * MUST NOT introduce security risks. I'd rephrase "MUST NOT contain known security vulnerabilities" and "MUST specify a security vulnerability reporting contact point". This would take the ambiguity out of a security *risk* (almost nothing is risk-free). Vulnerabilities, however, are more

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Topi Hukkanen
Thanks for the heads-up, Conny. But... could there be more things wrong? [sbox-FREMANTLE_X86: ~/test2] > run-standalone.sh pulseaudio OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 405: oil_test_check_impl(): function mas10_u8_mmx_2 in class mas10_u8_l15 failed check (7843 > 0) || (outside=0) pulseaudio: symbol lookup

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 19:36 +0200, Topi Hukkanen wrote: > [sbox-FREMANTLE_X86: ~/test2] > fakeroot run-standalone.sh ./test2 > cat1.wav > main.cpp: pa_simple_new() failed: Connection refused > > Does anyone know what could be wrong? It might be that the pulseaudio daemon is not running. I know it

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Topi Hukkanen
Is even Phonon really used for snappy/lightweight audio playback? It *appears* that PulseAudio is usable according to here: http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_5_api_documentation/ With the code below on host, I can get a wav file to play. That same wav file won't play when I move everything

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, nevermind, i am just too stupid to copy'n paste ... It should be git clone git://gitorious.org/maemo5-sgx-beagle/maemo5-beagle-cvm.git Till Am Mittwoch 28 Oktober 2009 schrieb Till Harbaum / Lists: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag 27 Oktober 2009 schrieb Carsten Valdemar Munk: > > I have uploaded m

maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-28 Thread Andrew Flegg
Hi, I've put together a suggested spec for the decision, taken at the summit during the /opt BOF[1], that the auto-builder would run some maemo-optify version during the build process (controlled by a control file header): http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=359996#post359996 I suggest th

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Dienstag 27 Oktober 2009 schrieb Carsten Valdemar Munk: > I have uploaded my kernel at > http://gitorious.org/maemo5-sgx-beagle/maemo5-beagle-cvm . It is > omap-pm kernel with beagleboard patch on top, as well as few patches > to get Nokia SGX module going. Defconfig is at > http://

Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-28 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 16:45:56 Attila Csipa wrote: > proper license/attribution information (for example Qt itself has no > debian/copyright or license files included. Probably not commercial To make this a bit more precise before someone misunderstands - the binary package is missing the

Re: Optification breaks package on upgrade from non-optified older version

2009-10-28 Thread Marius Vollmer
Marius Vollmer writes: > I have pushed a new version of maemo-optify to gitorious that patches > maintainer scripts to do "late optification" for stuff that dpkg didn't > do. > > It's not very well tested yet, of course, so please dig in! > > http://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/maemo-optify

Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-28 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 28 October 2009 15:23:14 Jeremiah Foster wrote: > Actually, this is not that hard. The license information has to be in > the debian/copyright file. If the package comes from debian, you can > be pretty sure that the license (i.e. the copyright file) is correct. I was mostly referring

Re: My first day as maemo.org distmaster

2009-10-28 Thread Andrea Borgia
Carsten Valdemar Munk ha scritto: > Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as > maemo.org distmaster. Nokia has gracefully sponsored this position for > the community at the request of the maemo.org community council. Wow, I am glad to see this level of involvment from Nok

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Antonio Aloisio
Hi, You can use phonon to play video and sound with Qt for fremantle. It's available in current 4.5 community port as well as in the official 4.6 port. It's cross-platform, anyhow you can read more about that at: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/phonon-overview.html Br, Antonio On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 a

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello! > Isn't it a bit of an overkill to set up an entire GST pipeline just to > play > a blip sound? Yes, but if you want to play your own sound or any sound on the filesystem this seems the way to go (libcanberra is for predefined sounds for predefined events). Lower level ways are likely forb

Re: My first day as maemo.org distmaster

2009-10-28 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Valerio Valerio wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 14:03, Carsten Valdemar Munk >> wrote: >> >>> Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as >>> maemo.org distmaster. Nokia has gracefully sp

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Topi Hukkanen
Thanks for the reply, Tim. Isn't it a bit of an overkill to set up an entire GST pipeline just to play a blip sound? Is there something more lightweight? -Topi On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Tim Teulings wrote: > Hello! > > > I tried using libcanberra, and my example works on the desktop, b

Re: Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello! > I tried using libcanberra, and my example works on the desktop, but when I > move it to Scratchbox, I get a CA_ERROR_NOTAVAILABLE when I call > ca_context_play(). [...] > Should I be doing something different? Is there a better API? What do > linux game developers usually use for playin

Re: My first day as maemo.org distmaster

2009-10-28 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hi, On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 14:03, Carsten Valdemar Munk wrote: >> Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as >> maemo.org distmaster. Nokia has gracefully sponsored this position for >> the community at the request of the

Maemo 5 - Playing sounds from Qt

2009-10-28 Thread Topi Hukkanen
Hi, I'm looking for an easy way to play sounds for a small game I'm developing for Fremantle. I'm using the Fremantle Qt port. I tried using libcanberra, and my example works on the desktop, but when I move it to Scratchbox, I get a CA_ERROR_NOTAVAILABLE when I call ca_context_play(). As a side

Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:53, Attila Csipa wrote: > A few random thoughts, not pushing for anything. > > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 10:20:39 Andrew Flegg wrote: >> * MUST have bug tracker URL in XSBC-Bugtracker control field. > > This is a machine controllable thing, so if it's a MUST, it has > n

Re: My first day as maemo.org distmaster

2009-10-28 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 14:03, Carsten Valdemar Munk wrote: > Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as > maemo.org distmaster. Nokia has gracefully sponsored this position for > the community at the request of the maemo.org community council. Congratulations! And can I be the

My first day as maemo.org distmaster

2009-10-28 Thread Carsten Valdemar Munk
Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as maemo.org distmaster. Nokia has gracefully sponsored this position for the community at the request of the maemo.org community council. The current maemo.org team cover areas such as bug management, system administration&collabora

Re: More Git/Garage issues...

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Samoff
Hi, > Please make sure you have filled in your garage credentials to > ~/.netrc. The info that needs to be added there is the > following: > > machine git.maemo.org > login __garage user name__ > password __garage password__ Thanks, Ferenc! All is well now. :) Tim -- http://samoff.com _

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Tuomas Kulve
Carsten Valdemar Munk wrote: > If you can't wait, you will need to find it in libmatchbox2 (it is kinda > easy to find) and remove that part, recompile libmatchbox2 and > hildon-desktop which has libmatchbox2 statically linked. I commented this part out of the MB: /* set the cursor invisible */

Re: More Git/Garage issues...

2009-10-28 Thread Ferenc Szekely
Hello, Tim Samoff wrote: > Hi, > > I was using Git with Garage just fine...until yesterday. Now, every time > I try to push files to the project, I get this output: > > --- > tims-macbook:hermes tim$ git push origin master > error: Cannot access URL https://git.maemo.org/projects/hermes/, retur

More Git/Garage issues...

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Samoff
Hi, I was using Git with Garage just fine...until yesterday. Now, every time I try to push files to the project, I get this output: --- tims-macbook:hermes tim$ git push origin master error: Cannot access URL https://git.maemo.org/projects/hermes/, return code 22 error: failed to push some refs

Gowalla.com would like to work with Maemo: Need answers...

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Samoff
Hi, One of my friends (a developer at gowalla.com) just emailed this question to me: --- do you know if some/most Nokia devices have a GPS, and expose that information to their browser via the W3C geolocation API, like iPhone and Android w/Gears do? --- While the question isn't in a Maemo conte

Re: RE: Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, never mind, i didn't expect this to be in /tmp Till - original Nachricht Betreff: RE: Re: Maemo5 on Beagle Gesendet: Mi, 28. Okt 2009 Von: tero.k...@nokia.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: ext Till Harbaum [mailto:li...@harbaum.org] > --snip-- > > > This cou

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:59 +0100, ext Carsten Valdemar Munk wrote: ... > If you can't wait, you will need to find it in libmatchbox2 (it is > kinda easy to find) and remove that part, recompile libmatchbox2 and > hildon-desktop which has libmatchbox2 statically linked. You can change (redefin

RE: Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread tero.kojo
> -Original Message- > From: ext Till Harbaum [mailto:li...@harbaum.org] --snip-- > > This could be a usb hub thing. I have gone through two or > three usb hubs to get one that works as it should. > > The Xorg.0.log should tell that you have a mouse and keyboard. > Uhm, the SDK doesn't

Re: Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, > I'm using a D-Link DUB-E100 USB ethernet dongle and at least I managed > to install openssh using that. I haven't tried anything else yet (I need > to get the curson showing first). I just tried to include openssh into the image at build time. Adding the extras-devel repo is no problem, bu

Re: orca screen reader

2009-10-28 Thread Piñeiro
From: jonathan > Hello list, > > I was wondering if you knew about the orca screen reader working with > the n900? Sorry if this isn't the right list to post to about this. Well you asked about a specific application on a maemo based device, so I bet that this is the correct list ;) AFAIK, no

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Carsten Valdemar Munk
>> - Make (USB) mouse to show and work > > WORKSFORME. > > I'm using a D-Link DUB-E100 USB ethernet dongle and at least I managed > to install openssh using that. I haven't tried anything else yet (I need > to get the curson showing first). Oh, while I remember. You won't be seeing a cursor in th

Re: Hildon Extras project launched

2009-10-28 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 14:30 -0400, Andrew Olmsted wrote: > I haven't done a build yet, mostly because I was having autotool > difficulty. I haven't attempted to figure out whether it is my setup, > or the scripts, but autogen.sh fails for me. I will send more > information as I get it. Should

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread tero.kojo
- Original message - > > Dirk Behme wrote: > > > Short status: > > [clip] > > > 10. Re-boot, enjoy booting it with Beagle :) > > I followed these instructions roughly and got it running. Ok, I need to make a fresh image from scratch. I guess my stuff is messed from trying different versi

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Carsten Valdemar Munk
> The serial console seems to work during the boot phase but it gets > garbage later. It does work for me most of the time after finishing the > boot up as well. > > Could this be related to power management..? This happens on N900 too. OMAP-PM kernel issue (mentioned in OMAP-PM wiki). /Carsten

Re: Hildon Extras project launched

2009-10-28 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 14:30 -0400, Andrew Olmsted wrote: > After taking WAY too long to do anything on this project, I have > imported my initial color and font selectors to the Hildon Extras > project. I edited the Makefile.am to include the source and header > files, and added the following:

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Tuomas Kulve
Dirk Behme wrote: > Short status: [clip] > 10. Re-boot, enjoy booting it with Beagle :) I followed these instructions roughly and got it running. > Further work: > > - I was not able to log in at minicom console. I got login prompt, but > typing resulted in some garbage characters. Typing roo

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-28 Thread Dirk Behme
Carsten Valdemar Munk wrote: > Hi all, > > I have uploaded my kernel at > http://gitorious.org/maemo5-sgx-beagle/maemo5-beagle-cvm . It is omap-pm > kernel with beagleboard patch on top, as well as few patches to get > Nokia SGX module going. Defconfig is at > http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/om