Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-11 Thread Jack Jansen
On 10-Jul-2006, at 16:20 , Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Or, assuming that 95% of the time python on 770 would be used for GUI applications (rather than daemons, scripts or such) linking pygtk and pyhildon statically with python might be wortwhile optimization. Licenses permitting, of course.

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Osvaldo Santana
Hi, On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [cut] There is also other feature/bug in those examples - they need to be killed with ctrl-c, they don't quit properly when closed via X button. Window is closed but application doesn't terminate in shell. Is this bug or some 'python cac

Re: Python memory use (was: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Ruda Moura
Hello! On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 16:38 +0300, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote: > On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2. memory consumption > > > 4. run-time speed? > > > > These are not an issue,

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming wrote: > On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming wrote: >> Are you talking about something that happens for every class, or just >> during library initialization? Either way, I'd love to see the patch, if >> you have a URL. > > PyGTK used to force calls to gtk_$CLASS_type() even for

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:29 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for the horrible startup time even applications written in C start > > slowly but python is really much wo

Re: Python memory use (was: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. memory consumption > > 4. run-time speed? > > These are not an issue, really. Since python does garbage collect, i

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Murray Cumming
> On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Are you talking about something that happens for every class, or just >> during library initialization? Either way, I'd love to see the patch, if >> you have a URL. > > PyGTK used to force calls to gtk_$CLASS_type() even for unused class, >

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But the 2 seconds for the second time is already better if you try > pygtk from CVS. > > Problem is: Glib/GObject is actually a dynamic type system. Every call > to GTK_IS_WIDGET() wil

Python memory use (was: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2. memory consumption > > 4. run-time speed? > > These are not an issue, really. Since python does garbage collect, in > the long run it may show even more

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:29 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for the horrible startup time even applications written in C start > > slowly but python is really much worse. Yesterday I tried the runtime in > > 2.0 repository w

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Murray Cumming
> On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But the 2 seconds for the second time is already better if you try > pygtk from CVS. > > Problem is: Glib/GObject is actually a dynamic type system. Every call > to GTK_IS_WIDGET() will actually use the gtype system, that will call > gtk_$C

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tommi Komulainen wrote: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they >> expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the >

python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the showstopper so far... if it's the size, how many megabytes woul

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they > expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the > showstopper so far... if it's the size, how many megabytes would be > ok? Can't

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/7/06, Eduardo de Barros Lima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/7/06, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Gazpacho UI builder and some documentation on how to try it out > > * Python APIs for Hildon

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread Eduardo de Barros Lima
On 7/7/06, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Gazpacho UI builder and some documentation on how to try it out > * Python APIs for Hildon and LibOSSO Ok... now I wonder when Python will make its way into

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Gazpacho UI builder and some documentation on how to try it out * Python APIs for Hildon and LibOSSO Ok... now I wonder when Python will make its way into product. Seems that nokia want to use it, but it's not in the pro

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread Luca Donaggio
I found a little (very little, really) bug in IT2006:In the Application installer, the icon you can associate with a package, which is shown for example, in the "installed application" list, is supposed to be an image 26x26 pixel large. The problem is that in the App. Installer the column which hol

[maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread erkko.anttila
Title: Maemo 2.0 final release available Hi all, After the official release of the Internet Tablet OS 2006 edition last week, the final maemo 2.0 release is also now available. Some highlights of this release in addition to what was introduced in mistral-beta include:     * The maemo