Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-06-02 Thread Nils Faerber
Devesh Kothari schrieb: [...] >> So we won't get the SDK before the release, but at the same time? Given >> the huge incompatibilities (app-installer, EABI) I would have thought >> nokia would release the sdk a bit earlier to give the app developers a >> chance to get their software out on time. [.

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-17 Thread Nils Faerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Robinson schrieb: >> Does the fact that there will be internet telephony software on the >> device mean that there will be a working driver for the internal >> microphone? >> Also I'd imagine(hope) that there will be some sort of compatibility >>

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Does the fact that there will be internet telephony software on the device mean that there will be a working driver for the internal microphone? Also I'd imagine(hope) that there will be some sort of compatibility for bluetooth headsets, otherwise it'd be a pain to have to hold the 770 in a posit

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-17 Thread Donars Guillaume
Hi, On 5/17/06, Antti Ijäs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The speaker itself should be cabable of outputting enough noice, so youcan hear something. But I wonder how the battery lasts in a usecase likethat? ie. for how long can you speak?  I heard last month that Nokia and Cisco were fellowshiped to fi

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-17 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 5/17/06, Antti Ijäs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kalle Vahlman wrote: > On 5/17/06, August Joki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Does the fact that there will be internet telephony software on the >> device mean that there will be a working driver for the internal >> microphone? > > > One would

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-17 Thread Antti Ijäs
Kalle Vahlman wrote: > On 5/17/06, August Joki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Does the fact that there will be internet telephony software on the >> device mean that there will be a working driver for the internal >> microphone? > > > One would assume that :) > > Otherwise it would be a bit

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-17 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 5/17/06, August Joki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does the fact that there will be internet telephony software on the device mean that there will be a working driver for the internal microphone? One would assume that :) Otherwise it would be a bit silly thing to put there, wouldn't it? (I ju

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-17 Thread August Joki
e 770 in a position to hear, talk and see it all at the same time. One can always dream. :) -August On 5/16/06, Devesh Kothari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ext Koen Kooi wrote: > [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html > > Hi, > > In case anyone miss

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-17 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:55:48PM +0300, Tomi Ollila wrote: > >> I recommend that a live cd or similiar would be launched some time in > >> advance. > >> > >> That would allow developers to compile their apps in there and switch > >> their own systems to 2.0 when 2.0 is in final state and 200

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Risto Varanka
- Forwarded message from Devesh Kothari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I am of the opinion that everyone MUST be advised to upgrade >Since >- it is a free upgrade >- Maintaining Maemo 1.1 and 2.0 which are incompatible is a big > problem (proposal is move Maemo 1.1 to archive status) >- It just cau

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Ian
Ola, I think some zope/plone solution could be useful here... > 1. which is as easy as wiki to add..plone has a product called wicked which > provides this behaviour > 2. some policy what is acceptable and not acceptable [remember the > thread we had about > when one of the entry was removed] ...

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson
> I also think it would be a good policy that the community will always > get information first before official press releases ;) The only actual news was integration with gizmo and a commitment to deliver it in june, the rest[2] has been on http://maemo.org/platform/docs/roadmap.html for some ti

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nils Faerber schreef: > Devesh Kothari schrieb: > I also think it would be a good policy that the community will always > get information first before official press releases ;) The only actual news was integration with gizmo and a commitment to deliv

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:51:44AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Or moving it to a page for Applications IT 2005 and add a new one for IT > > 2006. > Like this one: > > http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006 > Some thinking here might help :), there hav

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:51:44AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > Or moving it to a page for Applications IT 2005 and add a new one for IT > 2006. Like this one: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006 :) /me ducks and runs... -- Misha signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, > I recommend that a live cd or similiar would be launched some time in > advance. > > That would allow developers to compile their apps in there and switch > their own systems to 2.0 when 2.0 is in final state and 2006 is out. What's the problem of apt-get installing a new EABI Scrathcbox t

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson
> What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development > environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device? Very brief: YES! I think Koen is perfectly right that developers should get a chance to cross compile their apps with the new dev-env. Even if

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Nils Faerber
Devesh Kothari schrieb: > What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development > environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device? Very brief: YES! I think Koen is perfectly right that developers should get a chance to cross compile their apps with th

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Murray Cumming
> So we need to come up with the concept of community contrib repository > where the > 3rd party applications could be uploaded Yes, yes, yes. (Please) Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Florian Boor
Hi, Devesh Kothari wrote: > So we need to come up with the concept of community contrib repository > where the > 3rd party applications could be uploaded yes, that would be really nice! I guess both developers and users will love it. Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Urho Konttori
I recommend that a live cd or similiar would be launched some time in advance. That would allow developers to compile their apps in there and switch their own systems to 2.0 when 2.0 is in final state and 2006 is out. If live cd is hard to make, then a vmware image. Just my 2 cents. urho __

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Roberto Resoli
--- cut --- > I suggest removing the application catalog wiki page(s) when IT2006 gets > released and fill them with apps that are known to work on IT2006. Or moving it to a page for Applications IT 2005 and add a new one for IT 2006. I vote for this last option. Roberto Peter

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Devesh Kothari wrote: > > Another reason, is we dont just want to push the Maemo 2.0 till we > get the > > public upgrade IT 2006. Since we know Maemo 2.0 would be binary > > incompatible, > > the applications cross compiled on the development environment would not > >

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Devesh Kothari wrote: Another reason, is we dont just want to push the Maemo 2.0 till we get the public upgrade IT 2006. Since we know Maemo 2.0 would be binary incompatible, the applications cross compiled on the development environment would not run on the current IT 2005 edition (on device) ou

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Koen Kooi wrote: > Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html > > Devesh Kothari schreef: > > ext Koen Kooi wrote: > > >> [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html > >> > > >> H

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > On 5/16/06, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrew Flegg schreef: > > > > > Otherwise people'll get upset very quickly when they upgrade and their > > > favourite app doesn't work! > > > > I suggest removing the application catalog wiki page(s) when IT2006 gets >

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Andrey Khurri
Peter Robinson wrote: >> What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development >> environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device? > > Absolutely! The API changes in particular must have time to be tested, even > if it's only in Scratchbox. Personally, I'

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson
>> What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development >> environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device? > > Absolutely! The API changes in particular must have time to be tested, even > if it's only in Scratchbox. Personally, I'd also like to see at least

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 5/16/06, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrew Flegg schreef: > Otherwise people'll get upset very quickly when they upgrade and their > favourite app doesn't work! I suggest removing the application catalog wiki page(s) when IT2006 gets released and fill them with apps that are known

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Flegg schreef: > On 5/16/06, Devesh Kothari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What do you guys think? Should we try to push out the SB development >> environment early, even if the developers can test apps on real device? > > Absolutely! The API

Re: [maemo-developers]http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 5/16/06, Devesh Kothari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ext Koen Kooi wrote: [snip] > So we won't get the SDK before the release, but at the same time? Given > the huge incompatibilities (app-installer, EABI) I would have thought > nokia would release the sdk a bit earlier to give the app devel

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
I hope they release the SDk first, and a pre-IT2006 image to test the recompiled apps... 2006/5/16, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Devesh Kothari schreef: > ext Koen Kooi wrote: > >> [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/P

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Devesh Kothari schreef: > ext Koen Kooi wrote: > >> [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html >> > >> Hi, >> >> In case anyone missed it: >> http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
At least, the screenshots look promising ;-) Thank you very much, 2006/5/16, Devesh Kothari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ext Koen Kooi wrote: > [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html > > Hi, > > In case anyone missed it: > http://press.nokia.co

Re: [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Devesh Kothari
ext Koen Kooi wrote: > [maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html > > Hi, > > In case anyone missed it: > http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html > > > The biggest error in the statement: > > "It is downloadable free of

[maemo-developers] http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html

2006-05-16 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, In case anyone missed it: http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html The biggest error in the statement: "It is downloadable free of charge from the Internet www.nokia.com/770." nokia.com only has IT2005 downloads :( regards, Koen -