Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Clarence Risher wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 7:04 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to bloatedness, there's an apt-hook installed on the device that removes the extra docs when a package is installed (at least man info pages). Developer could also run something like Debian's

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-03 Thread Damien Moore
On 1/2/08, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is fairly unlikely case, but IMHO reason enough not to have two busybox versions with different set of tools. Main thing is that the developer can get the required tool, not whether it's in Busybox I think. I agree that the important thing

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Damien Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=989 the bug was marked WONTFIX Eero Tamminen's resolution was to not add any additional applets to BusyBox because in his opinion those needs can best be met by creating full versions of the tools in separate

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, I think it's good you raised this issue as it needs some discussion. Busybox is a base part of maemo, but we don't yet list it as an official SDK API although most packages need/use it when they are installed. ext Damien Moore wrote: I'd like to bring up the busybox applet selection issue

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Damien Moore
On 1/1/08, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would happen with an order like this?... # apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 install busybox replacement Maybe a broken system? I would think almost certainly a broken system. I think dpkg scripts depend on busybox tools being there, so

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Damien Moore
On 1/2/08, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Eero here. It's much more useful to have the original tools available instead of (too) simple busybox variants. what I'm suggesting would be an optional package that, if set up correctly, won't break anything (but will block

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Damien Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 1/2/08, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Eero here. It's much more useful to have the original tools available instead of (too) simple busybox variants. what I'm suggesting would be an optional package that, if set up

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Damien Moore
On 1/2/08, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The maintenance wouldn't be a problem. Then those packages can come directly from Debian. Also, then trying to install a properly working replacement for a buggy/incomplete Busybox functionality doesn't mean that one would need to remove first

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Damien Moore wrote: On 1/2/08, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The maintenance wouldn't be a problem. Then those packages can come directly from Debian. Also, then trying to install a properly working replacement for a buggy/incomplete Busybox functionality doesn't mean that

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Clarence Risher
On Jan 2, 2008 7:04 AM, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to bloatedness, there's an apt-hook installed on the device that removes the extra docs when a package is installed (at least man info pages). Developer could also run something like Debian's localepurge. Most of the package

busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-01 Thread Damien Moore
I'd like to bring up the busybox applet selection issue again. This was previously discussed here: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2007-April/009738.html with associated bug here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=989 the bug was marked WONTFIX Eero Tamminen's

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-01 Thread Damien Moore
@Clarence: I agree that dpkg should be able to handle this. Would REPLACE: busybox(##version##) be needed instead of PROVIDES? Because busybox is an essential package, you can't uninstall the existing one to reinstall the new one, which makes me suspect that the new one would need to REPLACE the

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-01 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/1/2, Damien Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: @Clarence: I agree that dpkg should be able to handle this. Would REPLACE: busybox(##version##) be needed instead of PROVIDES? Because busybox is an essential package, you can't uninstall the existing one to reinstall the new one, which makes me