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Jesse Guardiani schreef:
And the related question is: given an existing program that sends
stuff out to ALSA and doesn't use gstreamer, how difficult is it
generally to port it so that it works properly?
No porting necessary,
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Jesse Guardiani schreef:
Koen Kooi wrote:
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Jesse Guardiani schreef:
And the related question is: given an existing program that sends
stuff out to ALSA and doesn't use gstreamer, how
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
To be honest, your response is more along the same line of the
previous responses, i.e. it's more complex than you understand
which again just tells me Nokia either can't or won't provide
this information.
Makes
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Andy Mulhearn schreef:
I understood the problem being discussed here is how to map that to
public releases and for end-users? As Quim stated, this is being
(slowly) improved.
If slow improvement means not seeing any change over a period of six
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Daniel Stone schreef:
(That our SDK could certainly be improved
is a separate issue as to whether we should use OE/BitBake or Debian
packages.)
Again, that is not an 'or', OE is perfectly capable of creating debian
packages, as the
Mamona distro
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Rodrigo Vivi schreef:
Some Months ago Koen said me a truth:
Hackers like to code and don't want to spend their time packing
To summarize the differences:
* OE is a build and packaging tool
* Scratchbox is a development tool
They overlap in the
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Lauri Leukkunen schreef:
Also note that SB2 is totally not interested in doing x86-x86 development,
like what many people are doing today with SB1. People need to wake up, smell
the coffee, integrate with debian proper and get with the program.
I
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David Hagood schreef:
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 10:36 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
Yes, that's a problem. Does USB support multiple profiles at the same
time? What I'm after here is that N800 would have both USB mass
storage and usbnet enabled
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Arnaud Patard (Rtp) schreef:
Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 16:51 +0200, Kalle Valo wrote:
I just released a source package of the N800 WLAN driver:
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=12
Please send any
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Ramon Navarro Bosch schreef:
Hi every body !
Thanks to Nokia and Free Software Department on Politechnic University
of Catalonia I could put a ARMEL server on the NET. It's a hardware (600
Gbytes HDD, IOP intel 600 Mhz, 512 Mb RAM ) with armel
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Daniel Stone schreef:
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 10:33:17AM +0100, ext Hanno Zulla wrote:
to me, the relationship between Maemo's FOSS parts and Maemo's closed
parts are like the relationship between Ubuntu and its closed source
driver packages
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Hi,
Is the cx3110x source code is for the nokia800 available somewhere?
regards,
Koen
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Komal Shah schreef:
On 1/30/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Is the cx3110x source code is for the nokia800 available somewhere?
I don't think that it is available. It is binary only
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Forwarding as requested :)
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schreef:
Koen, could you send this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on my behalf? -- i have tried
twice, but it seems I'm stuck on some filter or something. Thanks!
Hi,
the OpenMoko [1] team is evaluating
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David Weinehall schreef:
On mån, 2007-01-15 at 11:50 -0800, ext Ty Hoffman wrote:
Y'all,
I haven't seen any specs on the n800 camera (resolution,
etc.). Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks.
Oh, and for what it's
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Marius Gedminas schreef:
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 07:53:06PM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 12:11:37AM +0200, Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
Also Nokia 770 runs not at 220MHz as stated on your page, but at
something closer to
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Mathias Uebelacker schreef:
Hello,
i would like to invitate you to discuss a project idea that i have. In the
last past weeks a played around with an idea to create an offline caledar
like the go
ogle calendar. After my device chrashed
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Siarhei Siamashka schreef:
On Saturday 13 January 2007 21:00, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
As for optimizing code for ARM (targeting Nokia 770), there are a few things
that are slow (maybe this list is still incomplete):
1. Floating point math is slow
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Martin Grimme schreef:
I'm pretty sure that there are good reason for the compatibility
problems, such as more recent libraries on ITOS 2007. If ITOS 2007 uses
a Cairo-enabled GTK version (and I guess it does), then there's no point
in running
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Ross Burton schreef:
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 11:57 -0800, Carl Worth wrote:
I have no information about what version of GTK is used on the newer
model,
Maemo 3.0 uses GTK+ 2.6.10-2osso27, which of course is *heavily*
patched.
but I hope the
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Hi,
I couldn't figure out this part of the libgpsbt license:
Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are
permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
Redistributions of source code must retain
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Koen Kooi schreef:
Hi,
I couldn't figure out this part of the libgpsbt license:
Same goes for libgpsmgr 0.1-10
regards,
Koen
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Hi,
the Sources file says:
Package: outo
Binary: outo
Version: 0.1.1-2
Maintainer: Tommi Leino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Build-Depends: debhelper (= 4.0.0)
Architecture: any
Standards-Version: 3.6.0
Format: 1.0
Directory: pool/bora/free/source
Files:
looks like a nokia patch to outo.
regards,
Koen
Br,
Karoliina
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Sent: 09 January, 2007 12:14
To: maemo developers
Subject: [maemo-developers] missing out source?
Hi,
the Sources
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Kimmo Hämäläinen schreef:
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 11:38 +0100, ext Koen Kooi wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
Hi,
Outo is open source package copyrighted by Tommi Leino.
I know, and I also know I can get outo from http://outo.sf.net. BUT what I'm
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
Hi,
I'm interested in getting 'maemo' to build against stock base
libraries when possible and use it on various non-nokia
devices (including my x86 workstation, maemo-mapper at
1600x1200... drool...).
We have
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Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri schreef:
I hope to see your language in next canola! :-)
I hope to see the next release of canola to be opensource!
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Hi,
Since Nokia decided that my n770 is unworthy of OS2007[1], I wanted to see how
much
trouble it is to compile the various maemo3 components against a stock
gtk/cairo/esound/dbus/etc and run that on my 770.
* hildon-base-libs built fine (yay!)
*
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Andrew J. Barr schreef:
I wish they'd have gotten a keyboard into this bad boy...one of the
reasons I like my Zaurus a bit better (not to mention the 400MHz ARM
processor).
An omap 24xx at 320 MHz is insanely faster as any xscale, thanks to it's
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Hi,
There was a discussion in #maemo yesterday about the where to get the sources
for various
maemo apps that aren't in svn. You can download a 200MB tarball from maemo.org,
but that
requires the wlan MAC (sigh). Bandwidth challenged people can
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Andrew Flegg schreef:
On 11/30/06, Carlos Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Klassjan,
Since you state applications have to be ported to Maemo 3, will
Maemo 3 be backward compatible with Maemo 2.x applications?
[snip]
We are working on
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[I'm subscribed to this list, so quit with the reply-all nonsense]
Carlos Guerreiro schreef:
Officially Maemo is still that, an application development platform with
SDKs, but we
are experimenting with community development and eventually Maemo
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Murray Cumming schreef:
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 18:02 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 15:13 +0200, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote:
*
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006188.html
Java on the
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
It puts a serious pressure on contributors to post here, as comments
coming from @nokia.com address often undergo scrutiny and start
speculations. Lets keep the discussion on the technical level. We are
engineers, not
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David Weinehall schreef:
On ons, 2006-10-25 at 16:24 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
On 10/25/06, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe its more helpful to ask if there is anything we (the community) can
do to help get it out of the door?? ...
That
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Tommi Komulainen schreef:
Here is a list of issues raised on this list I think have not been
concluded so far, in no particular order. The easiest way to get off the
list is to provide answers, but you can also try convincing me other
ways.
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Murray Cumming schreef:
I'm not seeing any significant improvement to this situation, and
Nokia's developers seem no less busy. So I'm still wasting time chasing
incredibly minor patches.
I still think a dedicated empowered community liason
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Malix schreef:
As announced on Adobe Flash release manager blog
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/ Flash 9 for Linux is here. You think
that this can be used under Maemo? Before now Flash was a big pain and I
had a lot of crash with older
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Larry Battraw schreef:
I believe you need to use the capital 'I' option like so:
gcc -c -Wall -g -O2 -isystem -I/usr/src/su-18-kernel-headers/include
conftest.c
No, -isystem is largely equivalent to -I.
regards,
Koen
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Andrew Flegg schreef:
Hi,
I'm wondering what the plans for Maemo and the 770 are:
In April we had the Maemo 2.0 roadmap[1], which was development
environment and technology focussed.
When the 770 was launched (11 months ago) it was with the
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koos vriezen schreef:
2006/10/3, Armin M. Warda [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Cezary,
Hi,
I merged your 'GPS-Info patch' for Maemo-Mapper 1.1
http://eko.one.pl/files/n770/maemo-mapper/gpsinfo/gpsinfo-20061002.diff
with my set of patches.
Is the
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Hi,
I just found out that backups made with sardine don't work with IT2006. Great.
Thank you.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
Hi,
Same as extracting your IT-2006 backup on IT-2005 device - this will
just not work - the backup is meant to work in the other direction.
I guess I read Do not overwrite it with backups made with Sardine since these
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Frantisek Dufka schreef:
Koen Kooi wrote:
Frantisek Dufka schreef:
Yet when usb cable is
inserted kernel says something about full speed config. Unfortunately
full speed is 12Mbps USB 1.1 speed. USB 2.0 is called high speed.
usb 2.0 high speed
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Koen Kooi schreef:
Frantisek Dufka schreef:
Koen Kooi wrote:
Frantisek Dufka schreef:
Yet when usb cable is
inserted kernel says something about full speed config. Unfortunately
full speed is 12Mbps USB 1.1 speed. USB 2.0 is called high speed
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Frantisek Dufka schreef:
Yes, unfortunately current USB mass storage functionality seems to use
only USB 1 speed so transfer over USB still has ~800KB/s limit. I wonder
why USB 2.0 is not used. It is mentioned in N770 specs
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Andrew Flegg schreef:
On 9/14/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Proposal to streamline maemo repos. PLEASE give your feedback and
concerns. If anyone can improve or shoot this down, then it is YOU.
Proposal:
1. To change the name of
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Steve Landers schreef:
The first (and perhaps most significant) is to include 'rel=nofollow'
in all links, and to prominently display the following message on all
edit pages
Wouldn't that also keep a large part of the wiki out of google?
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Carlos Guerreiro schreef:
Hi,
The Sardine releases RSS feed
(http://repository.maemo.org/sardine/rss20.xml) is now working again.
It was broken for over a week due to insufficiently robust parsing of
the changelogs in the feed generator. I hope
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Sebastien Bourdeauducq schreef:
Hello,
I'm trying to port Qt Embedded and Opie to the N770. So far, I have
managed to
stop the X server and have the example Qt applications running straight on
the framebuffer.
However, I still lack
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Carlos Guerreiro schreef:
I was able to upgrade it on a i386 scratchbox though I had to forcefully
install (dpkg --install --force-all) libbluetooth2 (a known problem).
Bug #750 for the curious :)
regards,
Koen
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Kalle Vahlman schreef:
The version in IT2006 is
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mistral/non-free/k/kernel-source-2.6.16/
Non-free !?!?
regards,
Koen
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Eero Tamminen schreef:
snip
1. cross-configure Autotools (autoconf, automake etc)
using Linux desktop software, nor tried to
2. cross-build Debian packages
1) Is something that only OpenEmbedded provides in addition to Sbox
and even with
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Kalle Vahlman schreef:
Hmm, I've always been under the impression that any kind of
combination of binary-only and GPL code would be in violation... IANAL
of course.
Slightly a different issue, but a nice read anyway:
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Adrian Neumaier schreef:
I suppose you read this: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ on how to
build proper debian archives.
But for that lib problem:
it can't be too hard to write a control file like this:
snip
Build-Depends:
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Adrian Neumaier schreef:
What was the section before? just lib? Afaik a section user/lib isn't
available in debian :)
Neither are packages for armel ;)
regards,
Koen
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Kalle Vahlman schreef:
2006/7/20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As far as I know, the current SDK2.0 and IT2006 is based on GTK+ 2.6.10.
Is there any roadmap that GTK2.8 with Cairo would be employed for
further software releases?
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Peter Robinson schreef:
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 06:29 +0300, ext
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as I know, the current SDK2.0 and IT2006 is based on GTK+
2.6.10.
Is there any roadmap that GTK2.8 with Cairo would be employed for
further
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Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri schreef:
On 7/20/06, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The OLPC has an FPU, the 770 hasn't,
True
so unless cairo grows a complete
fixedpoint backend + renderer it will always be ~10 times slower as the
good'ol
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Ferenc Szekely schreef:
Hello,
Nokia published the final release of the 2006 Software Edition. The
image is available at http://maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770 .
Cool.
Happy flashing ;)
Can't we apt-get distupgrade it?
regards,
Koen
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Madhusudan E schreef:
This e-mail and attachments contain confidential information from HUAWEI,
which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed
above. Any use of the information contained herein in any way (including,
but
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Greg Morgan schreef:
snip
MoinMoin wiki is ok. Would you also consider switching MoinMoin to
MediaWiki http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki at this point in time.
If you were worried about using a database with a wiki
Database? It only
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Hi,
In case anyone missed it: http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html
The biggest error in the statement:
It is downloadable free of charge from the Internet www.nokia.com/770.
nokia.com only has IT2005 downloads :(
regards,
Koen
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Nils Faerber schreef:
Devesh Kothari schrieb:
I also think it would be a good policy that the community will always
get information first before official press releases ;)
The only actual news was integration with gizmo and a commitment to
deliver
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Nils Faerber schreef:
Hi!
German Heise IT newsticker just had a quite confusing report about the
new 2006 edition of the software (the article even suggests that there
will be new hardware announced!?).
The old media had a saying: verify, verify,
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Hi,
During the last few days people have voiced their annoyance with how
nokia handles maemo bugs. Please take a look at the responses from
Maemo QA in the following bugs:
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=184
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Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Hi,
I'd expect -g -Os to do all appropriate code size optimisations
regardless of the architecture.
Well -g is a bit stupid in this scenario, since this means you tell
gcc to optimize for size but include debugging
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Philippe Laporte wrote:
Hi,
I would assume that this list be a top source for the following
question: what are the compile options for ARM for gcc for the smallest
possible size, etc.
For both smallest size, and best speed, seperately of
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Jussi Kukkonen wrote:
snip
Great, looking forward to it.
On a somewhat related note: Would it be a bad idea if the maemo-commits
mailing list posts included the full diff? Following the changes via
the list is currently a little tedious since
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Juha Yrjölä wrote:
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 13:53 +0100, ext Koen Kooi wrote:
What's nokia's position on EABI[1]?
At least this part of Nokia thinks that EABI is cool.
It seems you have company*:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2006/03
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Andrew Flegg wrote:
On 3/30/06, Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have a date on when Nokia expects to release the next
version of the software? I've seen Q1 2006 a few places, but I'm
curious if anyone has any more concrete
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Simon Pickering wrote:
snip benchmarks
I think I can explain the difference between the two zaurus benchmarks:
Xscale cpus really need the -mtune=xscale parameter to take advantage of
the pipeline, which AFAIK gcc 2.95 doesn't know about. OZ 3.5.4
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I've read some discussion on that list about the possibility of running
J2ME MIDlets on Nokia 770. As I've found, the problem is because of
lack of J2ME implementation for that device. I'm an author of
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Armin M. Warda wrote:
On Thursday 23 February 2006 01:34, David D. Hagood wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any suggestions?
How about hooking swapoff to the hotplug event for the MMC card
cover opening? Maybe even insertion also.
Yes, I
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Devesh,
snip
We still provide a dummy hildon-lgpl package requireing hildon-libs, to
preserve compatibility
A few other changes are planned for the coming weeks, adding new APIs,
we will provide then migration
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Eero Tamminen wrote:
Note: In Maemo UI user cannot resize windows and applications themselves
do that very rarely for dialogs, so this is fairly moot point for Maemo.
Try popping up the vkb. Opera takes ~4 seconds to resize the first time.
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Clemens Eisserer wrote:
It's disappointing that with every release gtk gets slower...
I absolutly agree - GTK-1.2 has been a nice and fast toolkit but since
the jump to 2.0 GTK is just one of those too-bloated-to-be-tuneable
pieces of software
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Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Hi again,
xfwm suffers from this bug as well, so I'm inclined to lart the gtk
people, but they are probably too busy breaking ABI/API right now :(
So this is definitivly a bug in maemo's X server?
No, this is a bug
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Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Hello,
If you search the list a bit, I reported this problem some time ago
but sadly was not able to fix it or to figure out whose fault this
problem is.
The java-gtk peers create a pixmap with 24-bit depth (as
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Luc Pionchon wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 16:29 +0100, ext Erik Bågfors wrote:
My first thinking when it comes to this is to port maemo to an
existing machine, such as a IPAQ which already runs linux and today
GPE.
Sounds like a great
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Eero Tamminen wrote:
Hi,
that an interesting screenshot because it illustrates some basic
scalablility issues even at 640x480 which isn't that different from
the 770.
Is there anything that couldn't be fixed just by finetuning the
theme
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Eloi Crespillo Itchart wrote:
CPU/Mem/Screenshot applet
Home Page: [WWW] http://koti.welho.com/jpavelek/tmp/770/
This is starting to be a very recurrent question...
It just proves people are too lazy to read either the FAQ or
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Frantisek Dufka wrote:
Hello,
just to let you know. I've got uinput.ko module compiled and got kbdd
working with my iPAQ bluetooth foldable keyboard. Now I need to add some
gui. Either to integrate in into existing keyboard applet or create new
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Zeeshan Ali wrote:
Repeat after me: the 770 is not an embedded system. It is a small
computer with neither a qwerty keyboard nor a big hard drive, nor a
really fast processor.
You are kidding, right? Anything is an embedded system if it:
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Kalle Vahlman wrote:
2005/11/29, Matthew Allum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
the 770 is not an embedded system - OK :) You understand my point
though - we could argue all week on if my digitial watch for example
was a small computer or an embedded system.
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Tomas Frydrych wrote:
Kalle Vahlman wrote:
Build environment as in the Maemo and packages as in the existing
dbus/ dir contents (bad wording, sorry). If you need to port all of
Maemo to a new pkg management just to use ipkg, well...
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Antti P Miettinen wrote:
Kimmo Hämäläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's also possible to attach gdbserver to a process on the 770 ..
Or, how about debugging on a virtual 770, now that qemu has system
emulation support for ARM [1]. Well -
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Eero Tamminen wrote:
Hi,
The screen is brilliant and bright enough for day use. However it
is currently not possible to rotate the content.
In the SDK it's easy to test how rotating the screen affects Maemo.
Just use 'xrandr' to rotate /
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Martin Grimme wrote:
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 30.10.2005, 11:10 + schrieb Clemens Eisserer:
Wow, really great someone is really doing it finally, although I can't
really underand why they did not include it in the default
distribution - ogg is
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Zeeshan Ali wrote:
Hey buddies,
Nonsense, gst-plugin-ivorbis has been around for a while now. The only
problem is that the gstreamer people forget to apply small API tweaks
every time gstreamer gets improved. Cristian has mentioned
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Martin Grimme wrote:
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 27.10.2005, 11:17 +0200 schrieb Laurent Lieben:
after flashing back my device with the actual retail software, i
could launch the Memory App flawlessly
Thereafter, i reinstalled GPE-TODO /
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Komal Shah wrote:
--- Andre Magalhaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is correct. No other open source telephony apps use GStreamer
(that I know of) and it looks like you'd have to hack it to make
it work on an n770 and a desktop from the same code
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Koen Kooi wrote:
Paul Mundt wrote:
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 11:31:40AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
Any news on the kernel sources?
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/12/87
I guess the dev program doesn't count as 'sale' or 'distributing'?
Anyway
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Florian Boor wrote:
snip
Concerning syncing there was/is a project as part of Goolgle's summer of
code based on the new OpenSync framework to enable PIM synchronisation
with a desktop - currently Linux desktop.
So if you interested in this then I
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Hello,
Any news on the kernel sources? I'd like to get those into OpenEmbedded
as soon as possible, but I can't find anything resembling kernel sources
and patches on maemo.org. And no, saying they are on kernel.org is not
specific enough.
regards,
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Nils Faerber wrote:
Hello!
Since the developer program's devices are being shipped now we have
created an easy download web page for our application ports to the Maemo
platform:
http://oss.kernelconcepts.de/maemo/app-install.shtml
There
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Tommi Komulainen wrote:
On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 02:24 +1300, ext Bernard Mentink wrote:
Will support for resolutions other than 800x480 be supported at any
time soon so that Maemo can be run on the likes of the hx4700
(640x480)??
Technically
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Paolo Molaro wrote:
I guess people on this list would be interested:
Mono runs on the Nokia 770, including Gtk# apps.
There is a tarball of the binaries here:
http://primates.ximian.com/~lupus/mono-nokia.tgz
It includes a README with a
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rh wrote:
Hi all,
I have program and running it on the maemo emulator.
But after couples time my program is close by it self.
Is there a problem with my program or is it emulator problem ?
I've seen this happen when the app (gpe-todo) didn't
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Wooky wrote:
Looks very nice. Can I suggest:
1)Tabs, very useful in a device with limited screen real-state such as the
N770;
2)configurable window name, i.e., allow it to display user, directory,
etc. This also is useful to save space inside
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