Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the showstopper so far... if it's the size, how many megabytes would be ok? Can't

python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the showstopper so far... if it's the size, how many megabytes

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: I also know about that... but I want to know from Nokia guys if they expect someday to get it included by default, and if yes, what's the

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Murray Cumming
On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the 2 seconds for the second time is already better if you try pygtk from CVS. Problem is: Glib/GObject is actually a dynamic type system. Every call to GTK_IS_WIDGET() will actually use the gtype system, that will call

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:29 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the horrible startup time even applications written in C start slowly but python is really much worse. Yesterday I tried the runtime in 2.0 repository with

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the 2 seconds for the second time is already better if you try pygtk from CVS. Problem is: Glib/GObject is actually a dynamic type system. Every call to GTK_IS_WIDGET() will

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Murray Cumming
On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking about something that happens for every class, or just during library initialization? Either way, I'd love to see the patch, if you have a URL. PyGTK used to force calls to gtk_$CLASS_type() even for unused class, during

Re: Python memory use (was: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. memory consumption 4. run-time speed? These are not an issue, really. Since python does garbage collect, in the

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:29 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On 7/10/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the horrible startup time even applications written in C start slowly but python is really much worse.

Re: python Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming wrote: On 7/10/06, Murray Cumming wrote: Are you talking about something that happens for every class, or just during library initialization? Either way, I'd love to see the patch, if you have a URL. PyGTK used to force calls to gtk_$CLASS_type() even for unused

Re: Python memory use (was: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available)

2006-07-10 Thread Ruda Moura
Hello! On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 16:38 +0300, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-10 at 09:15 -0300, ext Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: On 7/10/06, Tommi Komulainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. memory consumption 4. run-time speed? These are not an issue, really. Since

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread Luca Donaggio
I found a little (very little, really) bug in IT2006:In the Application installer, the icon you can associate with a package, which is shown for example, in the installed application list, is supposed to be an image 26x26 pixel large. The problem is that in the App. Installer the column which

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Gazpacho UI builder and some documentation on how to try it out * Python APIs for Hildon and LibOSSO Ok... now I wonder when Python will make its way into product. Seems that nokia want to use it, but it's not in the

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread Eduardo de Barros Lima
On 7/7/06, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Gazpacho UI builder and some documentation on how to try it out * Python APIs for Hildon and LibOSSO Ok... now I wonder when Python will make its way into

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 2.0 final release available

2006-07-07 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/7/06, Eduardo de Barros Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/7/06, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Gazpacho UI builder and some documentation on how to try it out * Python APIs for Hildon and