Re: Good News - WIFI NOT Borked after Update

2008-10-20 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Touching things under $HOME shouldn't bork an upgrade. Very true. We have been discussing the uncleanliness of letting packages touch $HOME on and off for a long time already. It's no consolation for those of you who had to suffer, but things are

disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Laurent GUERBY
Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Sparr
I had a blog post about this before I took my site down... Look into the app localepurge, you'll have to use some coreutils-vs-busybox trickery to install it from a package. Will cut out 5+ MB of translation files. Also consider ditching some of the default themes (again requiring package

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
Why havent Nokia made an option for installing on the internal memory card on the N810 ?? The Tablet is great in every respect but this tiny little bug makes me a bit cross Then we wouldnt have to worry about this or reflashing your precious ;) when the system update borkes your

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread James Knott
Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation,

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 20 October 2008 19:23:01 James Knott wrote: Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
I know about symlinks :p And yes as Kenneth pointed out it will bork on the next update. Making a symlink is just a workaround of the real problem. Ie not being able to choose flashing target (which would be nice) or defaulting on internal memorycard on N810. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.27

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Denis Dimick
My Windowz phone lefts me choose to install on my SD card, maybe Nokia will make this an option, or the package developers, since it could be controlled my the .deb package. However, once you remove the SD card, then your going to break your $PATH and what not when trying to run an app that lives

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
The N810 have a internal memorycard that is non removable (as far as i know) so on that platform the $PATH bork wouldnt happen (hopefully ;) But as you said it shouldnt be that much of a problem to make it work. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.45 skrev Denis Dimick: My Windowz phone lefts me

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: Why havent Nokia made an option for installing on the internal memory card on the N810 ?? The Tablet is great in every respect but this tiny little bug makes me a bit cross http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card -- Ryan

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Denis Dimick
Chris, I was speaking about the removable SD on the n810, the internal one is full of Maps and what not for the GPS. Since I never use the GPS; seems like everything else I own has one built-in, I guess I could delete the maps and everything else on /media/mmc2. Thanks, Denis On Mon, Oct 20,

Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Gary
Has anyone installed Fennec yet? http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0a1/releasenotes/ http://osnews.com/print/20411/Fennec_Mobile_Browser_from_Mozilla ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
I have seen that and to be honest i had actually forgot about it. But that is also a workaround as i see it as the option of installing to another target should be there by default. The reason why i havent fiddled with it myself is that im a proffession borker of tech stuff. ;) But thanks

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone installed Fennec yet? http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0a1/releasenotes/ http://osnews.com/print/20411/Fennec_Mobile_Browser_from_Mozilla Thanks for the pointer... I'm not surprised AT ALL to see them mention

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
Yes i installed Fennec, but i cant make it work. Dunno whats wrong though, anyone with any suggestions?? //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 20.07 skrev Fernando Cassia: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone installed Fennec yet?

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But that is also a workaround as i see it as the option of installing to another target should be there by default. The boot-from-SD method is faster, more stable, and generally way better than any let's break the system over multiple

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I'm not surprised AT ALL to see them mention the N810 only. I wonder if there's ANYTHING that makes it NOT RUN on a N800. The virtual keyboard behavior is intermittent. It works, but currently not all that well. Or perhaps the Mozilla

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Mark
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Fernando Cassia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone installed Fennec yet? http://www.mozilla.org/projects/fennec/1.0a1/releasenotes/

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Gary
Mark wrote: Do yourself a favor and wait until the full Firefox Mobile is available. It is alpha software, I suppose, but I got the impression that this is a one point oh alpha release and there were some improvements made over prior alpha releases. Just out of curiosity, should it work on an

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Mark wrote: I can't recommend installing Fennec on *any* device. It will screw with other things. I can't recall the details, but I had to re-flash my N800 after installing Fennec, because not only was it useless without a hardware keyboard, it changed the

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Denis Dimick
Ryan, Say someone does boot from SD, what happens when they remove the SD card to copy data over to it; I've run into a bug that causes scp to die/hang when copying large (AVI) files over wireless. Very good suggestion about boot from SD, I'd forgotten about this. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Say someone does boot from SD, what happens when they remove the SD card to copy data over to it; I've run into a bug that causes scp to die/hang when copying large (AVI) files over wireless. If you're booted from it, then bad things, but

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 20 October 2008 21:17:44 Ryan Abel wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Say someone does boot from SD, what happens when they remove the SD card to copy data over to it; I've run into a bug that causes scp to die/hang when copying large (AVI) files over

MicroB about:config Awesome Bar

2008-10-20 Thread Denis Dimick
Anyone know of a way to disable the Awesome Bar in MicroB? I find it annoying when I start to type in a URL and it suggests words I've never entered. Thanks, Denis -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
I would like pointing out that Minimo started as a project to get gecko based browser running in linux based devices, and first versions ran in Familiar/GPE based devices months before windowsce version was released. My suspects: Years ago, Nokia started a project to get a full linux device

Re: MicroB about:config Awesome Bar

2008-10-20 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 20 October 2008 21:35:05 Denis Dimick wrote: Anyone know of a way to disable the Awesome Bar in MicroB? I find it annoying when I start to type in a URL and it suggests words I've never entered. Thanks, Denis err, when did microb get the awsomebar ported?

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Sparr
This is actually a problem on every linux handheld I have ever used. It is a problem on my GP2X. It was a problem on my old Asus PDA. It is a problem on my N770. It will be a problem on my Pandora when I get one. I wish someone had a great solution, but so far, nothing. There is, afaik, no

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:33 PM, kenneth marken wrote: well, if we could get nokia to support it natively (watching the dance some had to do to get it all running again at the latest ssu) it would be a bit more interesting. but so far your best of waiting each time a ssu update shows up

Re: MicroB about:config Awesome Bar

2008-10-20 Thread Denis Dimick
Maybe I'm confusing it with the lower bar that lists words you can pick from when your typing in a URL. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:38 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Monday 20 October 2008 21:35:05 Denis Dimick wrote: Anyone know of a way to disable the Awesome Bar in

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
True, i am a power user (when i want to) but normally im in the category that wants stuff that does just work Actually having linux installing apps on a separate memorycard is dead simple when you dont have to worry about windows stuff like registry or drive letters. Im not using my

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Sparr
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:50 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: have a look at gobolinux ;) gobolinux is a neat idea, but it doesn't really address the problem here. the core of the issue is... what does/should happen when performing any package maintenance (install, remove, upgrade)

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My suspects: Years ago, Nokia started a project to get a full linux device running gtk based apps, with matchbox window manager and gecko based browser. That's how minimo started, funded by a RD Nokia

Re: MicroB about:config Awesome Bar

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Maybe I'm confusing it with the lower bar that lists words you can pick from when your typing in a URL. Which is a global feature completely unrelated to MicroB. Toggle it in input setting in the control panel. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But as i said above, why doesnt it just work? (Out of the box that is) Because software features aren't free to implement and all software companies have finite resources and priorities? Nokia likely balanced the possible benefits

Re: MicroB about:config Awesome Bar

2008-10-20 Thread Denis Dimick
Ryan, I seem to be a bit dense today, can you give me some more information? Under Control Panal - Input Settings, I don't see the setting. Thanks Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Maybe I'm confusing

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
Ahh true, didnt think of that to be honest. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 22.58 skrev Ryan Abel: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But as i said above, why doesnt it just work? (Out of the box that is) Because software features aren't free to implement and all software

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Denis Dimick
Ryan, Very good point, I guess what your really saying is: If your going to be a Power User then act like a Power User and hack your own tools, but provide your own support when it breaks. (Not meant to sound snotty) Thanks, Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Filesystem in Diablo

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
Im currently fiddling a bit with my n810 but i cant get my hands on the filesystem. Aint /home/user the home directory for the default user ?? Where is my Documents folder? Regards Chris ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org

Re: disk space running short on /

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Very good point, I guess what your really saying is: If your going to be a Power User then act like a Power User and hack your own tools, but provide your own support when it breaks. (Not meant to sound snotty) Wise words. ;) Either

Re: Filesystem in Diablo

2008-10-20 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: Where is my Documents folder? /home/user/MyDocs/.documents[1] [1]http://wiki.maemo.org/MyDocs_folder -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list

Re: Filesystem in Diablo

2008-10-20 Thread Christer Eliasson
*duh* dummy mode on ;) Thanks :) //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 23.35 skrev Ryan Abel: On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: Where is my Documents folder? /home/user/MyDocs/.documents[1] [1]http://wiki.maemo.org/MyDocs_folder -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair

Re: Fennec vs MicroB

2008-10-20 Thread Quim Gil
ext Fernando Cassia wrote: I do remember about the Nokia funding. Yeah it made very little sense to fund Mozilla then choose Opera. But corporations do those things... I'm getting used to it. Indeed, corporations better invest in research on many interesting technologies available in order