On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hartman
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Aldon Hynes
> wrote:
>> How hot is it?
>>
>> I've started running Kernel Power which I really like.
>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power
>>
>> Mostly because it gives me the ability to use IPv6. However, one
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Aldon Hynes
wrote:
> How hot is it?
>
> I've started running Kernel Power which I really like.
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power
>
> Mostly because it gives me the ability to use IPv6. However, one of the
> other features it provides is information about the ba
ck with "top" command in "X Terminal" if some
> process has a
> big number in the "%CPU" column? There has been some reports
> about
> Twitter applet before...
>
> -Kimmo
>
>
> >
&g
change what top shows.
Anyway, at least the above "top" output doesn't show any process
using all the CPU constantly. Battery life can still be ruined
by processes that use even a small amount of CPU, *if* they do it
constantly (also when user isn't interacting with the device
Hi Eero,
I have attached the details that how it looks when i write top in X
Terminal.
Thanks
Khalid
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> ext khalid khan wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your reply.I typed " top " in X Terminal there are so many
>> processes running some are
gt; > process has a
> > big number in the "%CPU" column? There has been
> some reports
> > about
> > Twitter applet before...
> >
> > -Kimmo
> &g
Hi,
ext khalid khan wrote:
Thanks for your reply.I typed " top " in X Terminal there are so many
processes running some are using less 10 - 30 % & few are using 70 - 80%
& very hard to recognize the path & don't know exactly what are these
& how to close it.
"top" being started and running in
Could you check with "top" command in "X Terminal" if some
> > process has a
> > big number in the "%CPU" column? There has been some reports
> > about
> > Twitter applet before...
> >
> > -Kimmo
> >
&
s a
> big number in the "%CPU" column? There has been some reports
> about
> Twitter applet before...
>
> -Kimmo
>
>
> >
> > I know if media (audio & video) is running it eat more
>
some reports about
> Twitter applet before...
>
> -Kimmo
>
> >
> > I know if media (audio & video) is running it eat more battery life.
> > But i have tried not using it & always analyse with Battery Eye App.
> >
> > I use normally emails (not mr
hrs in every 7 or 11 hrs a day.
Could you check with "top" command in "X Terminal" if some process has a
big number in the "%CPU" column? There has been some reports about
Twitter applet before...
-Kimmo
>
> I know if media (audio & video) is running it
nning it eat more battery life.
But i have tried not using it & always analyse with Battery Eye App.
I use normally emails (not mre than 10-20 emails, on weekends) use to play
some simple games,listen music & watch some videos ,talk on gtalk voice &
video.Browse Internet.
I charge using
nning it eat more battery life.
But i have tried not using it & always analyse with Battery Eye App.
I use normally emails (not mre than 10-20 emails, on weekends) use to play some
simple games,listen music & watch some videos ,talk on gtalk voice &
video.Browse Internet.
I charge using
ath point
of view it seemed pretty sensible.
Ryan
Giacomo Tufano wrote:
Battery problem has been solved. I had 1 critical issue and 2 minimal
ones on battery life.
First and worst was pidgin. The software is very aggressive when the
net goes down. RTComm beta is more 'quiet'. I use i
sensible.
Ryan
Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> Battery problem has been solved. I had 1 critical issue and 2 minimal
> ones on battery life.
> First and worst was pidgin. The software is very aggressive when the
> net goes down. RTComm beta is more 'quiet'. I use it ever 'on&#x
Battery problem has been solved. I had 1 critical issue and 2 minimal
ones on battery life.
First and worst was pidgin. The software is very aggressive when the
net goes down. RTComm beta is more 'quiet'. I use it ever 'on'
autoconnecting when network is up. Pidgin, apparen
Sorry, Frantisek. You was right. The log entries are directly related
to sounds. In particular to key clicks... In my mind, the clicks were
mechanicals. :) again, sorry and thank you for pointing me!
On 4/21/08, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> > I understand th
Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> I understand they are sound related, but I'm sure that I have those
> messages, in couples, every 10 seconds or so whatever I do. Also when
> the tablet is idle, with keyboard and screen locked. No sound is
> heard, of course. This is the reason I was thinking this was
> str
En/na Giacomo Tufano ha escrit:
>> What applets you have enabled in Home?
>
> Internet search, web link (no change on standard URI), Tableteer info,
> clock and Internet Radio (never used, sitting idle).
>
Are you using rtcomm with a voice (sip) account enabled?
Bye
--
Luca
_
On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> Btw (as a comment to a previous message): everyone have a system log,
> do 'dmesg' on a terminal to see it.
> Have a nice evening, gt
So I do! Much quieter than yours though - just a few messages about voltage
regulation.
--
Tony Green
Ipswich, Suf
I understand they are sound related, but I'm sure that I have those
messages, in couples, every 10 seconds or so whatever I do. Also when
the tablet is idle, with keyboard and screen locked. No sound is
heard, of course. This is the reason I was thinking this was
strange... But I really don't know.
Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> A last note... the "EAC mode: play enable, rec (dis)(e)nabled" couple
> of messages I see in system log are "normal"? It doesn't seem so...
This is related to sound playback. If you have touchscreen or system
sounds enabled you may have a lot of those messages (each screen
On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> A last note... the "EAC mode: play enable, rec (dis)(e)nabled" couple
> of messages I see in system log are "normal"? It doesn't seem so...
Not only don't I see this in my system log - I don't even have a system log
being written! The only log that
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ext Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > What applets you have enabled in Home?
> > >
> > Internet search, web link (no change on standard URI),
Hi,
ext Matt Emson wrote:
> Eero Tamminen wrote:
>>> It is. Sitting on poll().
>>>
>>
>> In that case crawler is not the issue.
>>
>
> Humour me. Kill the crawler, stop it form respawning (rename the file),
> fully charge your tablet, leave it over night. If it is dead as per
> usual, y
Hi,
ext Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> One possibility is a WLAN AP with broken power management, but then
>> things shouldn't get that much worse with newer OS release. Another
>> possibility is some process using network
Eero Tamminen wrote:
>> It is. Sitting on poll().
>>
>
> In that case crawler is not the issue.
>
Humour me. Kill the crawler, stop it form respawning (rename the file),
fully charge your tablet, leave it over night. If it is dead as per
usual, yes it is another issue. What is there to l
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One possibility is a WLAN AP with broken power management, but then
> things shouldn't get that much worse with newer OS release. Another
> possibility is some process using network often.
>
> Could you try using "Off
Hi,
ext Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Kimmo Hämäläinen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:09 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote:
>> > Giacomo Tufano wrote:
>> > > The 'metalayer-crawler' is, apparently, idle (bad, I'd like a simple
>> > > solution). :-(
Hi,
ext Matt Emson wrote:
> Giacomo Tufano wrote:
>> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why
>> I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very,
>> very short. I go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Kimmo Hämäläinen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:09 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote:
> > Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> > > The 'metalayer-crawler' is, apparently, idle (bad, I'd like a simple
> > > solution). :-(
> >
> > Even though it often doesn't
Hi,
ext Giacomo Tufano wrote:
>>> On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote:
>>>> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did
>>>> it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short.
>>>
y I did
>>>> it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short.
>>>> I
>>>> go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a night...
>>> It certainly sounds like it's doing a lot of work. I've found that some
>&
g somewhere is
going wrong. For me it was this, so I stick to my guns and say -
Metalater-crawler == poor battery life. Obviously, YMMV.
Whatever the issue.. it's real. It's a big issue for many users. It's
not an obvious error, cause I'm guessing it would be fixed by now if
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:09 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote:
> Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> > The 'metalayer-crawler' is, apparently, idle (bad, I'd like a simple
> > solution). :-(
> >
>
> Even though it often doesn't look like it is the metalayer-crawler,
> killing it always makes a big difference fo
ek of N800 ownership with the battery lasting not much past one
day. If it still had a charge in the morning, it was at critical levels.
I removed the crawler after seeking advice, and the battery life is not
up to a week. I use my tablet about 1 - 2 hours a day, 5+ nights a week.
I can charge it up at
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> ext Tony Green wrote:
> > On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> >> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did
> >> i
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 11:59 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote:
> Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> > After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why
> > I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very,
> > very short. I go from full battery dow
Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why
> I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very,
> very short. I go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a
> night...
One thing comes to mind :
Hi,
ext Tony Green wrote:
> On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote:
>> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did
>> it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short. I
>> go from full battery down to aut
On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote:
> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did
> it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short. I
> go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a night...
> I tried re
After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did
it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short. I
go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a night...
I tried reinstalling the OS, then I tried reinstalling the OS and not
re
Thanks for all feedback.
After Christmas break I started with fresh 2008 installation and trying to
install more and more applications and find suspect with combination of
strace/htop.
thanks
Pit
On Dec 27, 2007 9:10 AM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext Brad Midgley wrote
Hi,
ext Brad Midgley wrote:
> A quick thing to check is running 'top' and looking for cpu bandits.
>
> I had a 3rd part app gobbling up cpu due to a bug once; another time
> an internal launcher app was going nuts and it turned out to be caused
> by an sdcard corruption problem.
A process waking
with regard to modest, it supports imap idle and seems to refresh
instantly. i just set the poll time to 2 hours and yet see my new
messages immediately.
this seems to stop the new mail notices which i am guessing reduces
the load as that seems to be triggered by the active polling. nice
though
On 22/12/2007, Paul Dundas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Brad Midgley wrote:
> > Piotr
> >
> > A quick thing to check is running 'top' and looking for cpu bandits.
> >
> Yeah - when my "idle" N800 2007.whatever lost all charge in
> an afternoon, it turned out to be some task running a
> constant
Brad Midgley wrote:
> Piotr
>
> A quick thing to check is running 'top' and looking for cpu bandits.
>
> I had a 3rd part app gobbling up cpu due to a bug once; another time
> an internal launcher app was going nuts and it turned out to be caused
> by an sdcard corruption problem.
>
Yeah - when
Piotr
A quick thing to check is running 'top' and looking for cpu bandits.
I had a 3rd part app gobbling up cpu due to a bug once; another time
an internal launcher app was going nuts and it turned out to be caused
by an sdcard corruption problem.
Brad
___
My n800 battery life seems fine with 8OS, although it's more of a
subjective than objective measurement.
Piotr Zagorowski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know battery life topic was brought to this forum, but now I'd like
> to ask about new OS2008 and battery life. I have noticed s
:"Piotr Zagorowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Date:Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:56:24 +
Subject: Battery Life N800 + OS2008
----
Hi,
I know battery life topic was brought to this forum, but now I'd like to ask
about new OS2008 and battery
Hi,
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 17:28 +, ext Martin Grimme wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have experienced exactly the same with os2008beta. I also began
> wondering if my battery began to wear off signiricantly. I have just
> installed the current os2008 and will see how it affects battery li
Hi,
I have experienced exactly the same with os2008beta. I also began
wondering if my battery began to wear off signiricantly. I have just
installed the current os2008 and will see how it affects battery life.
Cheers,
Martin
2007/12/21, Piotr Zagorowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
&
Hi,
I know battery life topic was brought to this forum, but now I'd like to ask
about new OS2008 and battery life. I have noticed significant decrease since
I moved to OS2k8. I didn't ask before as I was waiting for official release.
Now I can confirm this is issue (in my case).
On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 10:46 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote:
> >> How do we know what the actual current consumption is?
>
> You use extra hardware for that, not software. :-)
I always wondered if the N800 platform made this information available.
I'm still wondering what the proprietary power managem
On 17/08/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> ext Michael Thompson wrote:
> > On 17/08/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> >>> True. But still seeing power consumption could help and having actual
> >>> current drawn from battery somewh
Hi,
ext Michael Thompson wrote:
> On 17/08/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
>>> True. But still seeing power consumption could help and having actual
>>> current drawn from battery somewhere in /proc would be very useful in
>>> many situations.
>>>
>>>
>>
On 17/08/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> > True. But still seeing power consumption could help and having actual
> > current drawn from battery somewhere in /proc would be very useful in
> > many situations.
> >
> >
> > These were just examples
Hi,
ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> True. But still seeing power consumption could help and having actual
> current drawn from battery somewhere in /proc would be very useful in
> many situations.
>
> Even if I agree with things you said I still think your response is
> influenced by the fact that N
Eero Tamminen wrote:
> You use extra hardware for that, not software. :-)
Extra hardware may not be needed.
> But anyway, that is not really relevant information when talking
> about applications. The question is not how much doing a thing
> consumes power, but is doing that thing really somethi
Hi,
> ext Michael Thompson wrote:
>> How do we know if an application has good power usage.
It wakes up only when it's doing something for you. When it _does_
things for you, it has good responsiveness and doesn't make rest
of the system non-responsive.
>> How do we know what the actual curren
On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 19:30 +0300, Igor Stoppa wrote:
> > Battery life eating is a particularly tricky bug to nail down to a
> > single application (or home applet).
Yes, for PCs and even laptops most issues are almost unnoticeable by
average users, but in our case any non-optimiz
> > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 16:51 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg
> wrote:
> > >
>
> >
> > Battery life eating is a particularly tricky bug to nail
> down to a
> > single application (or home applet).
>
is past
usage used to predict the amount of available time left (or is it only
the current current draw and booting has skewed it)? How does this
affect the bars shown on the battery meter?
I'd also be interested to know how the Nokia battery performance
erodes, and whether this is taken i
On 16/08/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 17:17 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> > On 8/16/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 16:51 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> > >
>
> &g
On 16/08/07, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> ext Michael Thompson wrote:
> >> IIRC, one of the Nokia engineers stated that apps are basically stopped
> >> (like hitting Ctrl+Z in bash) when they are minimized, and resumed when
> >> they're foregrounded. I might have made this u
On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 17:17 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On 8/16/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 16:51 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> >
> > > Given the importance of this to battery life, it would be cool if apps
> >
On 8/16/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 16:51 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
> > Given the importance of this to battery life, it would be cool if apps
> > were sent SIGSUSP when they were minimized or some the user stopped
> >
reason for it to be active, file a bug
> > against it.
>
> Given the importance of this to battery life, it would be cool if apps
> were sent SIGSUSP when they were minimized or some the user stopped
> interacting with them. If an application (e.g. media player) wanted to
&g
gt; applet which play music also backgrounded. If you notice that some 3rd
> party app has activity although you're not using it and/or it's not
> visible nor there's no other good reason for it to be active, file a bug
> against it.
Given the importance of this to bat
Hi,
ext Michael Thompson wrote:
>> IIRC, one of the Nokia engineers stated that apps are basically stopped
>> (like hitting Ctrl+Z in bash) when they are minimized, and resumed when
>> they're foregrounded. I might have made this up, but based on the CPU
>> monitor it certainly would appear that s
On 16/08/07, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> IIRC, one of the Nokia engineers stated that apps are basically stopped
> (like hitting Ctrl+Z in bash) when they are minimized, and resumed when
> they're foregrounded. I might have made this up, but based on the CPU
> monitor it cer
Hi,
ext Michael Thompson wrote:
> Hi,
> The battery life of the N800 seems to depend a lot on the applications
> that are running, I guess in particular when it is idling. The result of
> this is that the battery indicator can be very inaccurate, telling me it
> should last
+Z in bash) when they are minimized, and resumed when
they're foregrounded. I might have made this up, but based on the CPU
monitor it certainly would appear that something like that is going on.
--Paul
On 8/16/07, Michael Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> The
Hi,
The battery life of the N800 seems to depend a lot on the applications
that are running, I guess in particular when it is idling. The result of
this is that the battery indicator can be very inaccurate, telling me it
should last for days and it will then die in hours.
Ideally I'd
Hi all,
Since I upgraded to OS2006, something strange happens:
I fully charge the battery, use it for a little while (maybe 30 minutes) in normal mode (mostly installing new apps and updating installed ones), then turn the device of.After not using it for a day or two - the device won't turn on and
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