Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-12 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Denis Dimick wrote: Yes, I had poor battery usage, not even 8 hours, I had a few .mov files and .mpg files that caused the problem, some of them did not have the proper codec to be played by the Media Player. Here's a bit more:

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-11 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Denis Dimick wrote: I was suffering from the same sort of problem Battery usage / use-time? I found that if I cleaned all my MP3's and Movies off of my internal SD card the problem went away. There may be some specific audio or video files that trigger bugs in libraries that

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-11 Thread Denis Dimick
Eero, Yes, I had poor battery usage, not even 8 hours, I had a few .mov files and .mpg files that caused the problem, some of them did not have the proper codec to be played by the Media Player. Here's a bit more: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17365 HtH, Denis On

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-08 Thread Denis Dimick
I was suffering from the same sort of problem, I found that if I cleaned all my MP3's and Movies off of my internal SD card the problem went away. Not sure if this helps, Denis On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor Stoppa wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-05 at

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-06 Thread Frantisek Dufka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also set audio volume to zero most of the time. It actually shuts up the little motif it plays during startup. so I can turn it one where I have to be quiet. You can also disable just system sounds (Sounds control panel applet). BTW skype is buggy and does not

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-06 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Igor Stoppa wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 19:30 +0300, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: When you're not using the device, I would recommend putting it to offline mode, that's an option in the power-button menu that disables all radios in the device (next time you need to use net, just OK a dialog

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-05 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Rick Bilonick wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:54 -0600, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Thanks. I removed all of the home apps as suggested by another responder (I didn't remove the homeip app because I find it very useful.) That was early yesterday and the N810 has not reset itself since

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-05 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 19:30 +0300, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: When you're not using the device, I would recommend putting it to offline mode, that's an option in the power-button menu that disables all radios in the device (next time you need to use net, just OK a dialog that the device gives

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-08-05 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 07:30:08PM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: When you're not using the device, I would recommend putting it to offline mode, that's an option in the power-button menu that disables all radios in the device (next time you need to use net, just OK a dialog that the device gives

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-17 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 16.07.2008, 15:51 -0400 schrieb Ryan Abel: But I'd rather see the guided submission form get some traction moving forward (somebody else will have to come up with the URL, I'm in retard-mode at the moment and can't find it). something like

RE: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-17 Thread Rick Bilonick
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 19:58 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Subject: RE: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:26 -0600, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Mark, I went to the link and read it. I actually feel it is helpful. This week I submitted 4 bug

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-16 Thread Alberto Mardegan
ext Kalle Valo wrote: FREQUENCY OF OCCURRENCE: (always, less than 1/10, 5/10, 9/10) Remove the word always from the template. The reason being that usually the reporter is able to reproduce the bug two times and concludes that it happens always. But in reality that might well not be the

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-16 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 15:45 -0400, ext Ryan Abel wrote: Well, there is a template (not exactly the same, but very similar) being used. It looks like: Ok, I did some sampling of existing bugs but maybe it has been introduced recently (?) But I'd rather see the guided submission form get some

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-16 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 15:45 -0400, ext Ryan Abel wrote: Well, there is a template (not exactly the same, but very similar) being used. It looks like: Ok, I did some sampling of existing bugs but maybe it has been

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-16 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Alberto Mardegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ext Kalle Valo wrote: FREQUENCY OF OCCURRENCE: (always, less than 1/10, 5/10, 9/10) Remove the word always from the template. The reason being that usually the reporter is able to reproduce the bug two times and concludes that it happens

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-16 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Aniello Del Sorbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About the always, I too suggest it should be there. My point was that the meaning of the word always is not precise. It would be a lot better if the bug report says always, tested two times. That way I can know that the bug might need to be tested

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-16 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Aniello Del Sorbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About the always, I too suggest it should be there. My point was that the meaning of the word always is not precise. It would be a lot better if the bug report says always,

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-16 Thread Ryan Abel
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 15:45 -0400, ext Ryan Abel wrote: Well, there is a template (not exactly the same, but very similar) being used. It looks like: Ok, I did some sampling of existing bugs but maybe it has been

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-16 Thread Ryan Abel
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N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Rick Bilonick
I flashed the latest version of maemo (the last one before Diablo). I've also installed a lot of extra software. Now the N810 resets itself a lot but I can't discern why or how to fix it. Rick B. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:09 -0400, ext Rick Bilonick wrote: I flashed the latest version of maemo (the last one before Diablo). I've also installed a lot of extra software. Now the N810 resets itself a lot but I can't discern why or how to fix it.

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory. When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if others are having the same problem, and may have

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Denis Dimick
I have to agree that RTFM is a painful response, Here's what I'd do. 1. Backup all your data. 2. Restore to the current version you are running. 3. DONT restore your applications. Just restore your data. 4. Install one application at a time until you see the same behavior your seeing now. - Keep

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Wayne Fiori
Have you tried uninstalling the additional software you added, one-at-a-time, to determine if one of the third party packages is causing your problem? What steps have you taken to investigate the issue? -- =W On 7/15/08, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory. I have no clue what inflammatory means (and I'm too lazy to find out), but the

RE: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 09:37 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html This is not helpful

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 09:36 -0600, ext Mark wrote: RTFM is *never* an acceptable response. In fact my response was Learn how to describe problems. Far more useful than fixing any specific bug, imho. -- Cheers, Igor --- Igor Stoppa Maemo Software - Nokia Devices RD - Helsinki

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Kalle, Kalle Valo wrote: ext Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if others are having the same problem, and may have already solved it. snip So basically you want others do all the work for you? It doesn't work that way. Try to

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 09:36 -0600, ext Mark wrote: RTFM is *never* an acceptable response. In fact my response was Learn how to describe problems. Far more useful than fixing any specific bug, imho. ... by RTFM-ing

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory. I have no

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:57 -0600, ext Mark wrote: ... by RTFM-ing something that has nothing to do with the problem. I think the message do ut des was quite clear. Make an effort to explain your problem and you might be helped. End of transmission. -- Cheers, Igor --- Igor Stoppa Maemo

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Denis Dimick
A a Flamewar, can we do Vi vers. Emacs next? Ducks and runs away.. Denis On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:57 -0600, ext Mark wrote: ... by RTFM-ing something that has nothing to do with the problem. I think the message do ut

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kalle, Hello Dave, When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if others are having the same problem, and may have already solved it. snip So basically you want others do all the work for you? It doesn't work that way. Try

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure you haven't misinterpreted Mark here? It seems to me like the original question was Is this happening to anyone else? which is a reasonable question to ask on a users list. Asking him to search Bugzilla and/or

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ext Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Kalle, Hello Dave, When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if others are having the same problem, and may have already solved it. snip So basically

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still I think the original poster should do more than just say that my device reboots. He should explain what version he is using, did he install any applications, what kind of network environment he has etc. It would take

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 19:25 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: ext Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory. I have no clue what

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Quim Gil
Let's try again. ext Rick Bilonick wrote: I flashed the latest version of maemo (the last one before Diablo). I've also installed a lot of extra software. Now the N810 resets itself a lot but I can't discern why or how to fix it. With that description the shortest way to solve your problem

RE: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Ooohh, that would be a good one. J Nick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Dimick Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently A a Flamewar, can we do Vi vers

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Karsten Bräckelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 19:25 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: ext Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html This is not helpful and

Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-15 Thread Quim Gil
ext Kalle Valo wrote: That's a very good summary how a bug owner should behave. Maybe you should write an essay about that? :) Instead, he and others are writing https://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Stock_answers You (plural) might want to give a hand there and give a rest to your mailboxes. :) --

Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently

2008-07-15 Thread Ryan Abel
Mark, Have you ever considered following a little of your own advice and ignoring the RTFM replies? A lot of the threads you participate in seem to descend into flamewars. If you had simply ignored Igor's response, then either the user would've followed and read the URL, come back with

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-15 Thread Kalle Valo
Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ext Kalle Valo wrote: That's a very good summary how a bug owner should behave. Maybe you should write an essay about that? :) Instead, he and others are writing https://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Stock_answers I guess the idea is to make it easy to copypaste

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-15 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 22:07 +0300, ext Kalle Valo wrote: Now that I'm categorised as a bad boy, hehe, I have to improve my public image and do my share on the WLAN part ;) Since I have no public image left to defend, instead I'll take the chance to point to something that is part of our

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-15 Thread Kalle Valo
Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 22:07 +0300, ext Kalle Valo wrote: Now that I'm categorised as a bad boy, hehe, I have to improve my public image and do my share on the WLAN part ;) Since I have no public image left to defend :) After some random sampling of

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-15 Thread Ryan Abel
On Jul 15, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Igor Stoppa wrote: After some random sampling of bugs present in the external bugzilla, I don't see such template being used in the bug creation. Why? Well, there is a template (not exactly the same, but very similar) being used. It looks like: SOFTWARE

RE: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-15 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
@maemo.org Subject: Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently) On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 22:07 +0300, ext Kalle Valo wrote: Now that I'm categorised as a bad boy, hehe, I have to improve my public image and do my share on the WLAN part ;) Since I have no public image left

RE: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-15 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
I agree with that. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kalle Valo Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 13:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently) Igor Stoppa

Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)

2008-07-15 Thread Graham Cobb
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 20:43:03 Kalle Valo wrote: Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, that would be a good addition. One minor point before any copies it: FREQUENCY OF OCCURRENCE: (always, less than 1/10, 5/10, 9/10) Remove the word always from the template. The reason being