Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread Matt Emson
John Holmblad wrote: Having said that, and, given that there is a WIMAX version of the N810 I don't see an inherent technical or cost reason why there could not also be a version with a 2g/3g radio (GSM/HSDPA, or CDMA/EVDO) as well. I suspect it would be GSM/HSDPA based, as this is what

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread fcassia
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Matt Emson mem...@interalpha.co.uk wrote: John Holmblad wrote: Having said that, and, given that there is a WIMAX version of the N810 I don't see an inherent technical or cost reason why there could not also be a version with a 2g/3g radio (GSM/HSDPA, or

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread fcassia
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Brad Midgley bmidg...@gmail.com wrote: Nokia has several operating systems, product lines, feature sets, etc. One unfortunate explanation might simply be that the the maemo project was told they could not tread on the turf of another unit at Nokia. In my

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread John Holmblad
Jonathan, in fact, given the ease with which the N800N810 can be tethered to an EVDO or HSDPA capable mobile handset, my own biggest complaint has been with my electron guzzling mobile phone which lasts all of ~20 minutes when running with the EVDO turned on and tethered to the N810. Clearly

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 07:38:47AM -0200, fcassia wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Matt Emson mem...@interalpha.co.uk wrote: John Holmblad wrote: Having said that, and, given that there is a WIMAX version of the N810 I don't see an inherent technical or cost reason why there could

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread Jonathan Greene
response below ... On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 07:38:47AM -0200, fcassia wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Matt Emson mem...@interalpha.co.uk wrote: John Holmblad wrote: Having said that, and, given that there is

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread Matt Emson
Marius Gedminas wrote: 3G is UMTS (or WCDMA); HSDPA is sometimes called 3.5G. In the UK, O2 only use HSDPA for their 3G service, apparently. When you buy an iPhone with them, they mumble about their 3G actually being rated faster than normal 3G and make excuses about the naming convention

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread Jonathan Greene
I'm definitely in the minority in looking to have multiple things rather than a single device which would do it all. there are routers you can buy (MiFi - http://jkontherun.com/2008/12/09/novatel-mifi-c/) though I want the radio in the unit. Depending on the second device for connectivity just

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-14 Thread Gary
beating dead horsePutting in an 802.16e compatible chipset makes the most sense for the tablet's target market. What the original poster is arguing for is that Nokia should be using the maemo platform as a smart phone platform a la Android, the stripped down ARM port of OS X used in the iPhone,

N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread fcassia
I can't believe Nokia is so dumb. The software stack in the N800 / N810 is stable, proven, and time-tested. So why can't they release a N810 with embedded GSM/EDGE radio? All that is needed is a phone dialer applet. Of course, a premium version could add 3G, but for me to check GMail on the go,

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread Jonathan Greene
There's certainly been debate on the topic as some people prefer the option rather than being forced to have it but I would love it. An always-on pocket computer is exactly what I want ... and have wanted for a long time. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM, fcassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread Wayne Fiori
It would make the device far too expensive for its market. The cogs on the radio device would add to the base cost. There would be different European and American model -- each market uses different frequencies for GSM/EDGE. That homologation for manufacturing would add additional costs. The

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread Jonathan Greene
well - Nokia is definitely starting to roll out tri-band hsdpa devices which makes this much easier to deal with. I'm still excited by the idea of a 3G capable tablet. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Wayne Fiori dev9n...@gmail.com wrote: It would make the device far too expensive for its

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread Erik Hovland
Thoughts? Comments? Expletives? W/ bluetooth tethering and the WiMax addition, it is obvious to me that Nokia is attempting to get there. And by there - an always connected web tablet. The next device will likely have the space for 3G. The thing to recognize is that at least in the US, it is a

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread Brad Ackerman
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:23:04PM -0800, Wayne Fiori wrote: It would make the device far too expensive for its market. The cogs on the radio device would add to the base cost. There would be different European and American model -- each market uses different frequencies for GSM/EDGE. I

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread John Holmblad
Wayne, thanks for reminding me of a word, homologation, that I have not used for a long time. Having said that, and, given that there is a WIMAX version of the N810 I don't see an inherent technical or cost reason why there could not also be a version with a 2g/3g radio (GSM/HSDPA, or

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread Brad Midgley
FC So why can't they release a N810 with embedded GSM/EDGE radio? All that is needed is a phone dialer applet. Thoughts? Comments? Expletives? It's often suggested it would be too costly or logistically difficult, but there are smaller companies that are at least trying something similar.

Re: N810 with GSM radio

2009-01-13 Thread Brad Midgley
One more aside... as far as I could tell, Nokia was only showing off symbian devices at their CES booth. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users