Eero Tamminen wrote:
>Err?
>UBIFS used for rootfs is most certainly using compression.
Wow... totally missed that. I haven't hacked around with it to that level, and
missed it in the df listing some how. :P Yes, that does present challenges,
but nothing that can't be overcome with some
Hi,
ext Craig Woodward wrote:
Eero Tamminen wrote:
Compression can make normal ASCII data into 1/3 of its size
Yes, wonderful. Is a default N900 using a compressed filesystem?
NO. Why are we talking about it? Moot point.
Err?
UBIFS used for rootfs is most certainly using compressio
Eero Tamminen wrote:
>Compression can make normal ASCII data into 1/3 of its size
Yes, wonderful. Is a default N900 using a compressed filesystem? NO. Why are
we talking about it? Moot point.
>And the issue with that is that package doesn't know into which Fremantle
>release it's going
On 19 February 2010 22:16, Craig Woodward wrote:
> One good example for why is that the main package is really just a big
> dependency list of other packages to pull. If beta versions exists in devel
> and you update with that repository on, it may pull a beta package over a
> stable one, si
Hi,
ext Craig Woodward wrote:
As for the rest, the tools certainly can know where
the files are going. The paths are stored in the package,
and a simple test-extract will tell you the paths and rough
size of a file.
I think dpkg tools check the size before packaging the data,
whereas latest m
Hi,
Hamalainen Kimmo (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote:
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 11:02 +0100, Tamminen Eero (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
ext Jason wrote:
On a more technical, get-it-done approach, my problem with OOM was
too much crap in /var/cache/apt/archive/ . There are two ways to
handle this in a more user fr
Eero Tamminen wrote:
>It cannot, for several reasons.
>The ... metadata is ... based on ... space .. which may be block based,
>unlike UBIFS.
I don't think anyone is going to care if it's off by 5 to 10%, since that's
already the case. The existing estimates are usually off for many of
Johan Helsingius wrote:
>One that, as you yourself point out, can easily be fixed at no cost. All I am
>saying is that it *should* be fixed.
If I'm reading some of the replies here correctly, it looks like they have done
some of this in PR1.1.1, so this may be the last time we have this
"Tamminen Eero (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" writes:
> AFAIK:
>
> * Application manager doesn't have caches on rootfs, but on
>the 2GB partition.
>
> * However, if you use apt _directly_, you need to tell it to
>use 2GB partition for its caching like application manager does.
There are a number of
Kimmo Hämäläinen
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:23 AM
To: Tamminen Eero (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Not enough memory
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 11:02 +0100, Tamminen Eero (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext Jason wrote:
> > On a more technical, get-i
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 11:02 +0100, Tamminen Eero (Nokia-D/Helsinki)
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext Jason wrote:
> > On a more technical, get-it-done approach, my problem with OOM was
> > too much crap in /var/cache/apt/archive/ . There are two ways to
> > handle this in a more user friendly manner. Instea
Hi,
ext David Greaves wrote:
ext Jan Knutar wrote:
Another nice feature would be if the application manager, or a web
interface somewhere, could tell you beforehand how much space an app
consumes on /...
It cannot, for several reasons.
The size for the package included to the binary package
Hi,
ext Jason wrote:
On a more technical, get-it-done approach, my problem with OOM was
too much crap in /var/cache/apt/archive/ . There are two ways to
handle this in a more user friendly manner. Instead of the OOM
error message, offer to run 'apt-get clean', and/or symlink
/var/cache/apt out
Craig,
> Again, from my understanding, the flash memory is split up
> because it's slightly different hardware wise. The first
> chunk is a higher class meaning it has faster access, while
> the larger chunk is slower. If that's true, it makes sense
> that it was partitioned out this way.
You m
Let me preface this by saying that personally, I hope you continue to "tinker"
with your device, in fact I encourage it _if you have the time_. It's fun to
do, and does help the community if you're feeding back ideas and bugs. But if
you decide to "tinker" with it, PLEASE don't come here and
Johan Helsingius wrote:
>one of the things that really put me off the Apple stuff is the fanboy
>religiousness.
I'm far from a Nokia "fan-boy", this being my second Nokia device owned ever.
There are plenty of things I dislike about the N900, and about previous
micros/tablets/phones I'
rg]on Behalf Of Gunter Ohrner
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:16 PM
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Not enough memory
Nelson Ferreira wrote:
> 4. Allow for the package cache to be out of rootfs
I did not receive my recently ordered N900 so far, but can't you
transparently move
Nelson Ferreira wrote:
> 4. Allow for the package cache to be out of rootfs
I did not receive my recently ordered N900 so far, but can't you
transparently move the apt cache (and other larger directories)
somewhere else using a bind mount?
I'd assume most things in /var/cache, /var/spool (if it
Craig,
> If you wanted an iPhone, you should have bought one.
Sorry, that is the most pitiful excuse I have heard for
someone screwing up the partitioning. Yes, the N900 is
intended for technically sophisticated users. No, that
doesn't mean every single issue can be written off as
"user error".
Hi,
On 18 February 2010 00:01, Craig Woodward wrote:
[...]
I hope that what you're saying and implying is not the attitude of the
general Maemo developer, because it would mean that I've really chosen
the wrong platform. What I have to think about is the fact that the
maemo.orgs extra-devel repo
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 22:15, Nelson Ferreira wrote:
> I must say I am really disappointed at how painful it is to do an
> update on the N900.
> I went through this game on PR1.1 and now PR1.1.1.
>
> If Maemo or MeeGo want a shot at a good end-user consumer this really
> should be up there in the
Craig Woodward wrote:
> I swear I've never heard so much whining about a trivial topic in my
> life. You'd think Nokia was pushing a completely closed release from
> the yelping going on. You installed 80 apps from unstable or random
> repositories and sources, each time with a pop-up from the OS
Nelson Ferreira wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 15:47, Jan Knutar wrote:
>> On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Christian Walther wrote:
>>
>>> Apart from that, I really can't understand why Nokia doesn't supply
>>> tools that allow to build clean packages, e.g. ones that install in a
>>> location of
Christian Walther wrote:
>sorry, I have to agree with Johan -- it is crap.
>A living and healthy ecosystem consists of
... consists of keep track of your own ecosystem usage. I don't take a crap on
my dining room table, just like I don't install random software on my computer
without w
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 15:47, Jan Knutar wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Christian Walther wrote:
>
>> Apart from that, I really can't understand why Nokia doesn't supply
>> tools that allow to build clean packages, e.g. ones that install in a
>> location of their own, without saving *any
On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Paul Hartman wrote:
> I found that I had several themes, which were all optified, but still
> take about 500k each on rootfs... After uninstalling all themes
> (leaving the 2 built-in) I then had enough space to install the
> update...
Also for many people just disa
On Wednesday 17 February 2010, Christian Walther wrote:
> Apart from that, I really can't understand why Nokia doesn't supply
> tools that allow to build clean packages, e.g. ones that install in a
> location of their own, without saving *anything* to a location used
> by the Maemo OS.
All the
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
> Daniel Martin Yerga wrote:
>
>> That's not crap, it's a very wise advise.
>> If you want that everything works as it should, then only use
> stable software from Extras and Ovi. You will able to update without
> problems.
>
> Sorry, but n
Daniel Martin Yerga wrote:
> That's not crap, it's a very wise advise.
> If you want that everything works as it should, then only use
stable software from Extras and Ovi. You will able to update without
problems.
Sorry, but no. I am only using stable software from Ovi and Extras.
It still didn't
Hi,
On 17 February 2010 09:49, Daniel Martin Yerga wrote:
> Hi.
>
> - Original message -
>> Nelson,
>>
>> > I must say I am really disappointed at how painful it is to do an
>> > update on the N900.
>>
>> I have to agree. I was especially annoyed by the crap on
>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Ma
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 00:40:28 Kahlil Johnson wrote:
> Hi I just got a maemo release on 16mb of update but when I want to
> install it says not enough memory, is there any notes with the update.
> I have 1.6GB of memory and 17 on the user space and a 16GB card
> available completely. I gues
Hi.
- Original message -
> Nelson,
>
> > I must say I am really disappointed at how painful it is to do an
> > update on the N900.
>
> I have to agree. I was especially annoyed by the crap on
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1.1:
>
> "There are reports that at least 42MB of free rootfs
Nelson,
> I must say I am really disappointed at how painful it is to do an
> update on the N900.
I have to agree. I was especially annoyed by the crap on
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1.1:
"There are reports that at least 42MB of free rootfs is needed for
the update. You have probably inst
I must say I am really disappointed at how painful it is to do an
update on the N900.
I went through this game on PR1.1 and now PR1.1.1.
If Maemo or MeeGo want a shot at a good end-user consumer this really
should be up there in the priority for stuff to fix...
Just my 2c
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 a
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 03:43:10 pm Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 16.02.2010, 17:40 -0600 schrieb Kahlil Johnson:
> > Hi I just got a maemo release on 16mb of update but when I want to
> > install it says not enough memory, is there any notes with the update.
> > I have 1.6GB of memor
Am Dienstag, den 16.02.2010, 17:40 -0600 schrieb Kahlil Johnson:
> Hi I just got a maemo release on 16mb of update but when I want to
> install it says not enough memory, is there any notes with the update.
> I have 1.6GB of memory and 17 on the user space and a 16GB card
> available completely. I
Hi,
Would you file a bug report (and perhaps attach the smallest file that
does not render):
https://maemo.org/bugzilla/
Other interested people could then CC themselves to it and check the
progress.
Thanks!
--jakub
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I too am experiencing similar problems. There were
I too am experiencing similar problems. There were several PDFs that
would routinely open under the 2005 OS, most of which were under 1
MB. However, they will not open in the PDF Viewer under OS2006. What
is strange is that most of these files are simply plain text,
however, magazine articl
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