Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Thomas Wälti
OK, build 2 up and installable through the App Manager On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 07:57, Thomas Waelti twae...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, saw that too right now after waking up. I've now uploaded a 2nd build with a minuscule P... That's what -devel is for :-) -Tom I am having problems installing

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Matan Ziv-Av wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: IMO developer could was his/hers hands just by adding disclaimer to licence conditions. Something like make sure recording calls is legal before using this software. You mean like every image

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Timo Pelkonen
2010/1/19 Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: IMO *developer could* *wash his/hers hands* just by adding disclaimer to licence conditions. Something like make sure recording calls is legal before using this software

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Xabier Rodriguez Calvar
O Lun, 18-01-2010 ás 23:14 +0100, Thomas Waelti escribiu: I have now uploaded my recaller widget to the autobuilder, it built OK and should show up in extras-devel during the next hours (IF the servers work again - I have 0.2.0 of sleeper still not showing up in the package interface after

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Hartti Suomela har...@gmail.com wrote: There is a brainstrom on this http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/call_recording/ and a related talk.maemo.org discussion thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33296 on page 5 there are some instructions on

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Thomas Wälti
It literally took the Palm YEARS to get a call recorder. It took the N900 weeks (days :-) to get a call recorder - dictaphone - FM radio recorder - Internet radio recorder - Flash TV recorder, in AAC 128 kbps Stereo :-) Happy hacking - the N900 rocks! -Tom On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 15:50, Fernando

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: It literally took the Palm YEARS to get a call recorder. It took the N900 weeks (days :-) to get a call recorder - dictaphone - FM radio recorder - Internet radio recorder - Flash TV recorder, in AAC 128 kbps Stereo :-)

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Nelson Ferreira
It does work, and runs the stock Palm apps fine. Still have not found the time to install the other Palm apps I still cling to On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:00, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: It literally took the

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Hartti Suomela
I still had problems with installing this though App Manager (it was complaining about the same thing even though I refreshed the app catalogs) However I succeeded in installing the required packages manually (recaller + one missing python module) Works great, thanks! I would make the button a

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-19 Thread Craig Woodward
I had no issues, but I know I had a similar issue with the first devel item I installed. (I needed a python-conic, which was only in devel, but was off-version. :P I didn't have it with recaller, though I did have to reboot before it widget showed up on the screen? I do like the

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Harri Haataja
2010/1/14 Kahlil Johnson jzare...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org wrote: Thomas Wälti wrote: The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Xabier Rodriguez Calvar
O Sáb, 16-01-2010 ás 04:14 +0100, sebastian maemo escribiu: Of course, laws depend very much on the country you live... but IMHO recording a conversation in YOUR own phone is perfectly legal and you don't need to warn anybody about it, because you are recording YOUR conversation... In Spain

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Thomas Wälti
The problem is to find a compromise between: a) CPU/power usage b) Encoding efficiency c) Playback capability d) API availability Due to a) and d), I'm only looking at the gstreamer encoders available on the N900. Du to c) I have dropped the ANB and AWB codecs from evaluation - I was unable to

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Craig Woodward wo...@rochester.rr.com wrote: In any case, this is not new territory for phones in general or for Nokia. Several Nokia phones have had the ability to record conversations. My Nokia 6230i has the ability to record calls, but for legal

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Hartti Suomela
Some guidance (very limited though) from Wikipedia on the legal aspects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws Hartti On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:14 PM, sebastian maemo sebastian.ma...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/14 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com Recording conversations

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Craig Woodward
Just one thought on this: Most people are going to do playback on the device. I would focus on the best codec available for recording and playback on the N900. If people want to use it some other place, maybe making an export function (for Wav or MP3 or whatever) would suffice. Worst case,

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Thomas Waelti
I have now uploaded my recaller widget to the autobuilder, it built OK and should show up in extras-devel during the next hours (IF the servers work again - I have 0.2.0 of sleeper still not showing up in the package interface after 2 hours in the queue). The widget is encoding in AAC stereo

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Timo Pelkonen pelt...@gmail.com wrote: IMO developer could was his/hers hands just by adding disclaimer to licence conditions. Something like make sure recording calls is legal before using this software. but I'm not lawyer so this is uneducated guess

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Hartti Suomela
I am having problems installing recaller. App manager says Application packages missing: Python-dbus(=0.83.0-1maemo3) I have python installed on the device including that same version of python-dbus package. To be sure of it, I installed it again from extras-devel repository. Is the

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-18 Thread Thomas Waelti
Yeah, saw that too right now after waking up. I've now uploaded a 2nd build with a minuscule P... That's what -devel is for :-) -Tom I am having problems installing recaller. App manager says Application packages missing: Python-dbus(=0.83.0-1maemo3)I have python installed on the device

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-17 Thread Timo Pelkonen
2010/1/16 Craig Woodward wo...@rochester.rr.com I know the legality of recording calls varies greatly in many countries. In the US where I live it varies from state to state not only if you may record calls, but if those recordings may be published or used for legal purposes in a court

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-15 Thread sebastian maemo
2010/1/14 Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com Recording conversations is a useful tool, but also illegal or highly regulated in many jurisdictions, so that might deter developers somewhat. I'm not a lawyer... but I think you're wrong (in general). Of course, laws depend very much on

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-15 Thread Craig Woodward
I know the legality of recording calls varies greatly in many countries. In the US where I live it varies from state to state not only if you may record calls, but if those recordings may be published or used for legal purposes in a court of law. In general in the US you need to be a known

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-14 Thread Thomas Wälti
The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=464494postcount=50 should be the way to go. Using nokiaaacenc, you could probably directly save as AAC (or any other of Nokia

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-14 Thread Dave Neary
Thomas Wälti wrote: The documented method looks really hacky, IMHO the gstreamer based method of Zaheer Abbas Merali (gst guru par excellence :-) posted in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=464494postcount=50 should be the way to go. Using nokiaaacenc, you could probably directly save as

Recording calls

2010-01-13 Thread Kahlil Johnson
anyone know about an app that can record my calls, I would love to have something like that. I have it on my desktop for skype and is perfect. In my linux box I use this app http://atdot.ch/scr/ Having it somehow integrated on the Maemo phone app would be groundbreaking. So far nobody in the

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-13 Thread Hartti Suomela
There is a brainstrom on this http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/call_recording/ and a related talk.maemo.org discussion thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33296 on page 5 there are some instructions on how to do this from command line. I am not aware of an app for this yet

Re: Recording calls

2010-01-13 Thread Kahlil Johnson
Well there are no universal laws, so you have to specify to which country laws are you talking about. But there are already many tools to record calls including server side SIP call recordings and call centers also record their conversation (they do disclaim). On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:02 PM,

RE: Recording calls

2010-01-13 Thread Aldon Hynes
...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org]on Behalf Of Kahlil Johnson Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:12 PM To: Tablet Blog Subject: Recording calls anyone know about an app that can record my calls, I would love to have something like that. I have it on my desktop for skype