Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-23 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: >> >> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware? > > No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso, > and this question is i think interesting. > It can't

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-23 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: > > Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware? No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso, and this question is i think interesting.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-23 Thread Ahmad Samir
2011/3/24 JA Magallón : > Hi... > > First of all, I have tried alpha2 on a couple systems, and apart from some > glitches it works pretty fine, I could even work regularly on it... > > But there is just one thing that disappointed me. > > It looks that there is no non-free soft in installer DVD. I

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 23 mars 2011 à 19:39 -0400, Robert Xu a écrit : > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 18:58, Ahmad Samir wrote: > > If the latter, then I don't fancy adding the conflicts in each of the > > various kde4 specs (having just removed them a few months ago, and > > that took quite a lot of work), just

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Robert Xu
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 18:58, Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 24 March 2011 00:48, Olivier Blin wrote: >> Ahmad Samir writes: >> >>> We shouldn't under any circumstances add kde3 in the repos, fork or not. >>> >>> Users see a package in the repos and they expect it to be maintained, >>> this will not b

[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

2011-03-23 Thread JA Magallón
Hi... First of all, I have tried alpha2 on a couple systems, and apart from some glitches it works pretty fine, I could even work regularly on it... But there is just one thing that disappointed me. It looks that there is no non-free soft in installer DVD. I can live without nVidia drivers till

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 24 March 2011 00:48, Olivier Blin wrote: > Ahmad Samir writes: > >> We shouldn't under any circumstances add kde3 in the repos, fork or not. >> >> Users see a package in the repos and they expect it to be maintained, >> this will not be the case, we can't support KDE4 and KDE3 at the same >> t

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Olivier Blin
Ahmad Samir writes: > We shouldn't under any circumstances add kde3 in the repos, fork or not. > > Users see a package in the repos and they expect it to be maintained, > this will not be the case, we can't support KDE4 and KDE3 at the same > time. Past experience tells us this is a major hassle/

[Mageia-dev] A regularly synchronized instance of mageia-app-db

2011-03-23 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Hi, The test instance located at http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia is now regularly updated and so can be used to browse available RPMs for mageia, and also see in the "updates" page the latest updates. Reminder : by default, a filter is set to show only applications. If you want to see all pac

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 23 March 2011 09:49, Tux99 wrote: > > > I noticed there is no qt-devel rpm in mageia. > > I looked into this further and noticed the following comment in the > changelog of qt3: > > Revision 45543 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs] > Modified Mon Jan 31 23:32:27 2011 UTC (7 wee

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Balcaen John
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 18:29:09, Tux99 wrote: [...] > It goes without saying that I would first build everything locally and test > it, I always do that with every package I work on. Nice to hear ;o) > But like I said, I think a separate/third party repo is a very bad idea, > the whole point o

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 23 mars 2011 à 17:30 -0400, Robert Xu a écrit : > On Mar 23, 2011, at 17:28, Dexter Morgan wrote: > > we will face too many pbs simple question: > > > > we provide k3b ( kde apps ) trinity provide k3b ( kde3 apps ) > > Uh, no, k3b-trinity or k3b-kde3 And for configuration path, var

[Mageia-dev] Sudden problems with r8169 NICs ?

2011-03-23 Thread Frank Griffin
I updated cauldron this morning, and later rebooted my desktop. My r8169 on eth0 is suddenly having problems, maybe due to the new kernel. The chipset is an r8169 variant: Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel: r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.3LK-NAPI loaded Mar 23 15:58:23 localhost kernel: r816

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Olivier Blin
Robert Xu writes: >> we provide k3b ( kde apps ) trinity provide k3b ( kde3 apps ) > > Uh, no, k3b-trinity or k3b-kde3 Or use a prefix, which should makes easier to spot trinity packages, like trinity-k3b >> files are similar ( or named the same ), how users will distinguish > > No.. That's th

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Robert Xu
On Mar 23, 2011, at 17:28, Dexter Morgan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Olivier Blin wrote: >> Dexter Morgan writes: >> I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I thought

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Olivier Blin wrote: > Dexter Morgan writes: > >>> I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a >>> repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I >>> thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Tux99
Quote: Balcaen John wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 22:05 > But as i said before (like others), you should first try to build it > locally, > check it's working, intergrate nicely for menu,kdm then we'll start > thinking > about providing an alternative repository. It goes without saying that I

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Olivier Blin
Dexter Morgan writes: >> I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a >> repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I >> thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party >> repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete. >> >> >> We can

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Xu wrote: > > > On Mar 23, 2011, at 16:24, Tux99 wrote: > > > I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a > repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I > thought Mageia would finally make confusing and co

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Robert Xu
On Mar 23, 2011, at 16:24, Tux99 wrote: I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party repos (like Mandriva has) obsolete. We can

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Balcaen John
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 17:25:25, Tux99 wrote: [...] > I certainly don't have the web space and bandwidth resources for a > repository and frankly I joined Mageia as a packager precisely because I > thought Mageia would finally make confusing and conflicting third party > repos (like Mandriva ha

Re: [Mageia-dev] [75995] created old log directory for drakwizard

2011-03-23 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:21 PM, wrote: > Revision 75995 Author steletch Date 2011-03-23 20:21:52 +0100 (Wed, 23 Mar > 2011) > > Log Message > > created old log directory for drakwizard > > Added Paths > > misc/drakwizard/ Can you please not import drak* packages blindly without cleaning them fi

Re: [Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue

2011-03-23 Thread L B
I've played around a little bit. Seems like the client wasn't linked to the dropped account. A Manuel start of ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd in a terminal throws an error with a one time link to the dropbox-dist homepage. After I opened that link in a normal browser my pc was correctly linked to dropbox

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Tux99
Quote: Anne nicolas wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 20:47 > > As explained by some guys before, we do not want to have both KDE3 and > 4 in repository. This has been a big pain to make them live together > for some months (even if it looks "easy") and it has been a pain to > clean repository. I know

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/3/23 Maarten Vanraes : > Op woensdag 23 maart 2011 19:22:08 schreef nicolas vigier: >> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote: >> > And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3 >> > macro should point to /opt/kde3... :) >> >> So that means that all KDE applications will be t

Re: [Mageia-dev] buildsystem => maintainers db link test

2011-03-23 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 23 maart 2011 20:32:42 schreef Michael Scherer: > Le mercredi 23 mars 2011 à 20:16 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > > i agree, maintainership should be done manually. but preferably with some > > kind of package search and checkboxes, to select multiple ones. (to > > minimize the work

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 23 maart 2011 19:22:08 schreef nicolas vigier: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote: > > And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3 > > macro should point to /opt/kde3... :) > > So that means that all KDE applications will be twice on the repository, > one for

Re: [Mageia-dev] buildsystem => maintainers db link test

2011-03-23 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 23 mars 2011 à 20:16 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > i agree, maintainership should be done manually. but preferably with some > kind > of package search and checkboxes, to select multiple ones. (to minimize the > work; i can't see jq finding package by package and selecting hims

Re: [Mageia-dev] buildsystem => maintainers db link test

2011-03-23 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 23 maart 2011 18:00:40 schreef nicolas vigier: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote: > > Misc righly pointed out that: > > * someone triggering a massive rebuild may not want to be seen as a > > > > maintainer of packages uploaded by this; several possible solutions: > >-

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Robert Xu
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 14:50, Tux99 wrote: > > > Where do you have the Fedora and openSUSE spec files? > Those could be useful as reference. > > I will PM you eventually but first I have to have a close look at > everything, SVN write access would be premature for now. > Right now, I'm slowly mo

Re: [Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain

2011-03-23 Thread Remy CLOUARD
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 03:52:45PM +0100, Romain d'Alverny wrote: > But let me continue in a different way then. For each major step: > * how could I get/gather/query those values? I guess for most of > these, we'd need to setup a service to check and publish these, but to > start easy, what would

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Tux99
Quote: nicolas vigier wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 19:22 > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote: > > > > > And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3 > > macro should point to /opt/kde3... :) > > So that means that all

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Robert Xu wrote: > > And I hate to double post, but I do know that the %configure_kde3 > macro should point to /opt/kde3... :) So that means that all KDE applications will be twice on the repository, one for KDE4, and one for TDE ? I think that can be confusing for users. P

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Robert Xu
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 13:46, Dexter Morgan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Tux99 wrote: >> >> >> Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:09 >> >>> Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in >>> SVN.trinitydesktop.org >> >> I'm aware of that, that's why I said we ne

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Robert Xu
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 13:46, Dexter Morgan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Tux99 wrote: >> >> >> Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:09 >> >>> Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in >>> SVN.trinitydesktop.org >> >> I'm aware of that, that's why I said we ne

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Tux99 wrote: > > > Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:09 > >> Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in >> SVN.trinitydesktop.org > > I'm aware of that, that's why I said we need qt3-devel re-enabled in the > QT3 package. > I don't want to

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Robert Xu
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:08, Tux99 wrote: > I'm aware of the autoconf issue but I found a workaround [1] and I have > managed to build a libtqtinterface RPM so far with the workaround. I recommend seeing this message: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::593 > > Are you a TrinityDE de

Re: [Mageia-dev] buildsystem => maintainers db link test

2011-03-23 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Romain d'Alverny wrote: > > Misc righly pointed out that: > * someone triggering a massive rebuild may not want to be seen as a > maintainer of packages uploaded by this; several possible solutions: >- first uploader is set as the maintainer by default; >- this will

[Mageia-dev] buildsystem => maintainers db link test

2011-03-23 Thread Romain d'Alverny
Hi there, maintdb is making some progress and we could test it already with the buildsystem to push it some data. Here is how it works so far: * a package P gets submitted by ennael; * buildsystem builds it; * buildsystem POSTs (P, ennael) to maintdb; * maintdb keeps a record of that; * as a

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Tux99
Quote: Robert Xu wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 16:09 > Trinity Qt4 support is experimental, you can see it in > SVN.trinitydesktop.org I'm aware of that, that's why I said we need qt3-devel re-enabled in the QT3 package. I don't want to build the current version with experimental QT4 support. >

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Robert Xu
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:01, John wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:35:05 +0100 (CET) > Tux99 wrote: > >> >> >> Quote: tux99 wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 13:18 >> > >> > Version 3.5.12 was just released a couple of weeks ago: >> > http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php >> >> Actually I confused

Re: [Mageia-dev] building a dashboard for the whole build chain

2011-03-23 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 23:05, Olivier Blin wrote: > "Romain d'Alverny" writes: >>           + Build 1a0 (context diff w/ build 199) – 2011-03-14 23:03:15 >>                o DVD i586, build ok (log), tests failed (log), >>                  cauldron-2-dvd-i586-1a0-qafail.iso >>                o D

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread John
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:35:05 +0100 (CET) Tux99 wrote: > > > Quote: tux99 wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 13:18 > > > > Version 3.5.12 was just released a couple of weeks ago: > > http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php > > Actually I confused the date :) the current version was released last >

Re: [Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting

2011-03-23 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/3/23 Tux99 : > > > Did last week's meeting not happen? > > There are no logs for it: > http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/ > > Unfortunately I can never participate at 20h UTC, but I do like to read the > logs afterwards. was canceled last week because of unavailability > > -- > Magei

Re: [Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting

2011-03-23 Thread Tux99
Did last week's meeting not happen? There are no logs for it: http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/ Unfortunately I can never participate at 20h UTC, but I do like to read the logs afterwards. -- Mageia ML Forum Gateway: http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/

[Mageia-dev] Next packagers meeting

2011-03-23 Thread Anne nicolas
Hi there Here are topics for our next meeting tonight, 20h UTC on #mageia-dev: - review of mentoring in progress - review of current repositories: packagers, packages, missing one, updates... - next test day - preparing upgrade from mdv 2010.1(2) to Mageia Cheers -- Anne http://www.mageia.org

Re: [Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question

2011-03-23 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/23/2011 08:45 AM, Olivier Blin wrote: Don't you have x11 packages for vbox guest installed? That was it, thanks. Apparently virtualbox-additions and the x11 package were forced on during my post-installation processing. Is there an rpm or urpmq query that will highlight conflicts bet

Re: [Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question

2011-03-23 Thread Olivier Blin
Frank Griffin writes: > I understand that virtualbox and vbox additions cannot both be > installed on the same system because of conflicts. But why, when I > try to update a system with virtualbox installed and vboxadditions not > installed, do I get prompts about vboxadditions not being install

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Tux99
Quote: tux99 wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 13:18 > > Version 3.5.12 was just released a couple of weeks ago: > http://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php Actually I confused the date :) the current version was released last October. Anyway that doesn't change the fact that QT4 support is still

[Mageia-dev] vbox/vboxadditions conflicts question

2011-03-23 Thread Frank Griffin
I understand that virtualbox and vbox additions cannot both be installed on the same system because of conflicts. But why, when I try to update a system with virtualbox installed and vboxadditions not installed, do I get prompts about vboxadditions not being installable ? What is asking for i

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Tux99
Quote: Balcaen John wrote on Wed, 23 March 2011 11:37 > > Can we please reenable the qt3-devel package as it's > > required to build the TrinityDE (www.trinitydesktop.org) > Did you rebuild qt3 locally & the whole trinityDE with sucess ? Yes I just rebuilt qt3 locally with -devel with the inten

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Balcaen John
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 07:37:12, Balcaen John wrote: > On Wednesday 23 March 2011 04:49:21, Tux99 wrote: > > I noticed there is no qt-devel rpm in mageia. > > [...] > If i'm not wrong qt3 was simply wrongly imported & pushed. > Also no apps seems to requires it at all (especially when there's

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Balcaen John
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 04:49:21, Tux99 wrote: > I noticed there is no qt-devel rpm in mageia. [...] If i'm not wrong qt3 was simply wrongly imported & pushed. Also no apps seems to requires it at all (especially when there's no -devel to link against it) I would suggest to drop it at all in fa

Re: [Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue

2011-03-23 Thread L B
thanks for the quick answer. i've forgotten to say that i'm using the gnome desktop. but i will try if the kfilebox works there as well. lb 2011/3/23 Andres Kaaber > Works fine here. I use it with kfilebox. > > -- > A. Kaaber >

Re: [Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue

2011-03-23 Thread Andres Kaaber
Works fine here. I use it with kfilebox. 2011/3/23 L B : > hello everyone, > i've been testing the mageia alpha-1 and -2 and i stumbled over a weird > behaviour of my lovely dropbox client. > (dropbox is a sync service) the client is available for fedora and ubuntu > and as tar archive for compila

[Mageia-dev] dropbox daemon starting issue

2011-03-23 Thread L B
hello everyone, i've been testing the mageia alpha-1 and -2 and i stumbled over a weird behaviour of my lovely dropbox client. (dropbox is a sync service) the client is available for fedora and ubuntu and as tar archive for compilation. the package as the comiled sources don't do very much, they

[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-23 Thread Tux99
I noticed there is no qt-devel rpm in mageia. I looked into this further and noticed the following comment in the changelog of qt3: Revision 45543 - (view) (download) (annotate) - [select for diffs] Modified Mon Jan 31 23:32:27 2011 UTC (7 weeks, 1 day ago) by stewb Original Path: cauldron/qt3