Re: [Mageia-dev] Flash player 11

2011-07-14 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:09:18 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: Flash Player 11 Beta 1 is now available. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer11.html This release offers Both 32 and 64 bit support. Already raised as a bug report https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146 Regards, Dave H

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Eugeni Dodonov wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 22:47, Eugeni Dodonov wrote: >> >> Firstly, systemdrequires udev >= 172, what is the policy to update it? >> According to 'mgarepo maintdb get udev', it has no maintainers, does anyone >> objects if I grab/update it

[Mageia-dev] Flash player 11

2011-07-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
Flash Player 11 Beta 1 is now available. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer11.html This release offers Both 32 and 64 bit support. Charles -- Delta: We never make the same mistake three times. -- David Letterman -- Mandriva Linux release 2012.0 (Cooker) for

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Eugeni Dodonov
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 20:37, Balcaen John wrote: > On Thursday 14 July 2011 20:08:17 Eugeni Dodonov wrote: > [...] > > > > This is how they work now, except that in mageia networkmanager uses > keyfile > > plugin instead of networkmanager-mdv (which is a bit outdated at the > > moment) so the n

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Balcaen John
On Thursday 14 July 2011 20:08:17 Eugeni Dodonov wrote: [...] > > This is how they work now, except that in mageia networkmanager uses keyfile > plugin instead of networkmanager-mdv (which is a bit outdated at the > moment) so the network configuration is different among them. Well for cauldron nm

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Eugeni Dodonov
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 20:08, Olivier Blin wrote: > Option 2 seems good as well, but does it really have to uninstall > sysvinit? Isn't it enough to put some alternatives symlinks for > /sbin/init? > This is actually a great idea! A perfect candidate for update-alternatives, thanks, I haven't t

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Olivier Blin
Colin Guthrie writes: >> Secondly, what should be the correct way of supporting systemd in a >> package? In Mandriva, I thought on adding a --with flag to >> enable/disable systemd, but in most cases it does (almost) nothing. All >> services which want to support systemd only need to place their

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Eugeni Dodonov
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 20:04, Olivier Blin wrote: > Eugeni Dodonov writes: > > > 2011/7/14 JA Magallón > > > >> As a side note, this reminds me of the mix of ifplugd and > networkmanager. > >> This was a point I wanted to throw in MGA2 specs: migrate completely to > >> networkmanager and ditch

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Olivier Blin
Eugeni Dodonov writes: > 2011/7/14 JA Magallón > >> As a side note, this reminds me of the mix of ifplugd and networkmanager. >> This was a point I wanted to throw in MGA2 specs: migrate completely to >> networkmanager and ditch net_applet and traditional network scripts. >> NetworkManger is the

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Eugeni Dodonov
2011/7/14 JA Magallón > As a side note, this reminds me of the mix of ifplugd and networkmanager. > This was a point I wanted to throw in MGA2 specs: migrate completely to > networkmanager and ditch net_applet and traditional network scripts. > NetworkManger is the only sane way where I can have

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread JA Magallón
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:26:37 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > > > And finally, what does seems to be the best way of starting to use > > systemd in cauldron? I have thought on 3 alternatives: > > - easy way, only having it packaged, but not > > providing/obsoleting/conflicting with sysvinit. This

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Eugeni Dodonov
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 18:26, Colin Guthrie wrote: > > Systemd 30 is out, with lots of nice changes, so I think we should use > > it now as we are quite early in the release cycle. It is working on my > > machine, but before doing something about it, I prefer to hear opinions > :). > > > > Well

Re: [Mageia-dev] Second .spec generic question

2011-07-14 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
> can the experinced Mageia packagers confirm me that: > > -- desktop-file-install / desktop-file-validate is *not* needed in Mageia? (I > can validate with rpmlint) > -- gtk-update-icon-cache is *not* needed in Mageia? > -- scrollkeeper is *not* needed in Mageia? > -- BuildRequires:    desktop

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Eugeni Dodonov at 14/07/11 02:47 did gyre and gimble: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:48, Colin Guthrie > wrote: > > 'Twas brillig, and Eugeni Dodonov at 12/07/11 13:15 did gyre and gimble: > > If nobody objects, I could help with that. Mandri

[Mageia-dev] Second .spec generic question

2011-07-14 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
*Not* related to https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110211/002535.html but related to http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging_hints which says "filetriggers: mageia has filetriggers, don't put needless stuff in %post." can the experinced Mageia packagers confirm me that: -- desk

[Mageia-dev] Upcoming German Linux Event in August

2011-07-14 Thread Oliver Burger
Hi, on August, 20th and 21st the FrOSCon ( Free and Open Source Software Conference http://www.froscon.org/ ) will take place at the campus of the University of Applied Sciences Bonn-Rhein-Sieg. Mageia will share a booth there with mandrivauser.de community. We will have a project room of our own

Re: [Mageia-dev] new mgarepo version

2011-07-14 Thread Angelo Naselli
> (Sorry, didn't mean to step on your toes). Neither did i. I only wanted to thanks you -as usual- because you're always ready to help. Angelo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Eugeni Dodonov
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 06:25, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Eugeni Dodonov wrote: > > Firstly, systemdrequires udev >= 172, what is the policy to update it? >> According to 'mgarepo maintdb get udev', it has no maintainers, does >> anyone >> objects if I grab/update it as we

Re: [Mageia-dev] new mgarepo version

2011-07-14 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 14 July 2011 12:46, Angelo Naselli wrote: > giovedì 14 luglio 2011 alle 12:18, Ahmad Samir ha scritto: >> Like Angelo, I don't think there're any restrictions on importing >> repsys, so I've imported it, should be on the mirrors soon. > There's who talks... and who does :) > (Sorry, didn't mea

Re: [Mageia-dev] new mgarepo version

2011-07-14 Thread Angelo Naselli
giovedì 14 luglio 2011 alle 12:18, Ahmad Samir ha scritto: > Like Angelo, I don't think there're any restrictions on importing > repsys, so I've imported it, should be on the mirrors soon. There's who talks... and who does :) Thanks Ahmad. Angelo signature.asc Description: This is a dig

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-14 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/7/14 blind Pete <0123pe...@gmail.com>: > on Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:04 > in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.devel > Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: > >>> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:16:24 +0200 >>> From: Wolfgang Bornath >>> To: Mageia development mailing-list odjjhxpcy38dnm+yrof...@public.gma

Re: [Mageia-dev] new mgarepo version

2011-07-14 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 14 July 2011 11:13, Angelo Naselli wrote: >> A bit hijacking the thread, but I have a quick question - would it be >> possible to have repsys on mageia? >> >> There is mgarepo on Mandriva for the ones willing to work with Mageia >> repositories from Mandriva; is it too much to ask for the oppos

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-14 Thread blind Pete
on Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:04 in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.devel Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote: >> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:16:24 +0200 >> From: Wolfgang Bornath >> To: Mageia development mailing-list >> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put >> non-free+t

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

2011-07-14 Thread blind Pete
on Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:05 in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.devel Wolfgang Bornath wrote: [snip] > We have a different perception of > laws, so it seems. Very likely you are subject to different laws. They vary a lot from place to place.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-14 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Wed, 13 Jul 2011, Eugeni Dodonov wrote: Firstly, systemdrequires udev >= 172, what is the policy to update it? According to 'mgarepo maintdb get udev', it has no maintainers, does anyone objects if I grab/update it as well? Since you volunteered, could you take a look at: https://bugs.magei

Re: [Mageia-dev] new mgarepo version

2011-07-14 Thread Angelo Naselli
> A bit hijacking the thread, but I have a quick question - would it be > possible to have repsys on mageia? > > There is mgarepo on Mandriva for the ones willing to work with Mageia > repositories from Mandriva; is it too much to ask for the opposite? (E.g., > for the ones willing to work on Mand