Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Sander Lepik
07.01.2012 01:09, Johnny A. Solbu kirjutas: On Friday 06 January 2012 18:54, Balcaen John wrote: I guess when you did encounter that you just remove task-kde from your system I did not. I should have been more clearly with my example. :-)= The packages in my example where all console program,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread ptyxs
Le 06/01/2012 17:55, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 06/01/12 10:16 did gyre and gimble: After latest Cauldron updates, I got a real long list of suggested orphans - but I believe some of these packages are needed (like hal or basesystem-minimal) - How do I clear out

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread andre999
Sander Lepik a écrit : 07.01.2012 01:09, Johnny A. Solbu kirjutas: On Friday 06 January 2012 18:54, Balcaen John wrote: I guess when you did encounter that you just remove task-kde from your system I did not. I should have been more clearly with my example. :-)= The packages in my example

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread ptyxs
Le 07/01/2012 11:18, andre999 a écrit : Sander Lepik a écrit : 07.01.2012 01:09, Johnny A. Solbu kirjutas: On Friday 06 January 2012 18:54, Balcaen John wrote: I guess when you did encounter that you just remove task-kde from your system I did not. I should have been more clearly with my

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Sander Lepik
07.01.2012 12:18, andre999 kirjutas: It is not exactly the same thing, but in more than one occasion when I installed packages with similar functions at the same time, to compare them, say A, B, and C, and later uninstalled B and C, I have found A to be declared an orphan. Only to find that it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/1/7 andre999 andre999...@laposte.net: Sander Lepik a écrit : 07.01.2012 01:09, Johnny A. Solbu kirjutas: On Friday 06 January 2012 18:54, Balcaen John wrote: I guess when you did encounter that you just remove task-kde from your system I did not. I should have been more clearly with

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
07.01.2012 09:18, LinuxBSDos.com skrev: True that the user does not and should not care about definitions of an orphan, but also, the user should not be put in a situation where he/she will have to go hunting for what could or could not break anything. Well urpme is not at fault. It's doing

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/1/7 Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org: 07.01.2012 09:18, LinuxBSDos.com skrev: True that the user does not and should not care about definitions of an orphan, but also, the user should not be put in a situation where he/she will have to go hunting for what could or could not break

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/1/7 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com: Of course this is one way to find bugs in packages. But what about the documented (in German) case where Sorry, documented is not the correct word. I could not document it with logs or namng of files. I only stated what I did and what it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Sander Lepik
07.01.2012 13:39, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: Of course this is one way to find bugs in packages. But what about the documented (in German) case where - after fresh installation, reboot (ok) and updates right after installation I was presented with a list of more than 100 orphans. - I ran

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Saturday 07 January 2012 09:42, Sander Lepik wrote: Give us command line example. Install something and remove it and then show me what got orphaned if it wasn't orphan before. What you claim here doesn't sound right as i haven't seen it myself. I'll do that next time I come across

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread andre999
Sander Lepik a écrit : 07.01.2012 12:18, andre999 kirjutas: It is not exactly the same thing, but in more than one occasion when I installed packages with similar functions at the same time, to compare them, say A, B, and C, and later uninstalled B and C, I have found A to be declared an

[Mageia-dev] imported .src.rpm / .spec attribution

2012-01-07 Thread Florent Monnier
Hi, In Mandriva I was using this command to make proper attribution of imported .spec files: $ mdvsys import foo.src.rpm --message 'this spec file is imported from Fedora where it was written by X' I'm trying to make the equivalent with this command: $ mgarepo putsrpm -m this spec file is

[Mageia-dev] Alpha3 release notes

2012-01-07 Thread Oliver Burger
Hi all, please do have a look at the alpha3 release notes: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha3 and fix/complete them. By keeping them up to date during the alpha/beta/rc phases we will finally have some nice release notes for Mageia2. It really only takes a few minutes for everyone...

Re: [Mageia-dev] imported .src.rpm / .spec attribution

2012-01-07 Thread Luc Menut
Le 07/01/2012 13:23, Florent Monnier a écrit : Hi, In Mandriva I was using this command to make proper attribution of imported .spec files: $ mdvsys import foo.src.rpm --message 'this spec file is imported from Fedora where it was written by X' I'm trying to make the equivalent with this

Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha3 release notes

2012-01-07 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 07 januari 2012 13:40:44 schreef Oliver Burger: Hi all, please do have a look at the alpha3 release notes: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha3 and fix/complete them. By keeping them up to date during the alpha/beta/rc phases we will finally have some nice release notes

Re: [Mageia-dev] imported .src.rpm / .spec attribution

2012-01-07 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 07 januari 2012 13:23:10 schreef Florent Monnier: Hi, In Mandriva I was using this command to make proper attribution of imported .spec files: $ mdvsys import foo.src.rpm --message 'this spec file is imported from Fedora where it was written by X' I'm trying to make the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha3 release notes

2012-01-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
Maarten Vanraes skrev 7.1.2012 15:34: Op zaterdag 07 januari 2012 13:40:44 schreef Oliver Burger: Hi all, please do have a look at the alpha3 release notes: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha3 and fix/complete them. By keeping them up to date during the alpha/beta/rc phases we will

Re: [Mageia-dev] imported .src.rpm / .spec attribution

2012-01-07 Thread Florent Monnier
Le samedi 07 janvier 2012 13:58:05, Luc Menut a écrit : Le 07/01/2012 13:23, Florent Monnier a écrit : Hi, In Mandriva I was using this command to make proper attribution of imported .spec files: $ mdvsys import foo.src.rpm --message 'this spec file is imported from Fedora where

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/1/7 Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee: 07.01.2012 13:39, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: Of course this is one way to find bugs in packages. But what about the documented (in German) case where  - after fresh installation, reboot (ok) and updates right after installation I was presented

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Sander Lepik
07.01.2012 16:24, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: Used the full DVD (32-bit) Mageia 2 Alpha 2 - minimal install with X How? AFAIK this is not one of the default options. -- Sander

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/1/7 Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee: 07.01.2012 16:24, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: Used the full DVD (32-bit) Mageia 2 Alpha 2  - minimal install with X How? AFAIK this is not one of the default options. It is. 1. Select Custom at the DE selection 2. Unmark all package groups 3. Up

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Sander Lepik
07.01.2012 17:09, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: 2012/1/7 Sander Lepiksander.le...@eesti.ee: 07.01.2012 16:24, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: Used the full DVD (32-bit) Mageia 2 Alpha 2 - minimal install with X How? AFAIK this is not one of the default options. It is. 1. Select Custom at the DE

Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha3 release notes

2012-01-07 Thread Oliver Burger
2012/1/7 Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org: Maarten Vanraes skrev 7.1.2012 15:34: i updated https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha3#Databases is this sort of what you want? or is it too much? I would replace an as of yet unreleased MariaDB 5.5.18 with MariaDB 5.5.18 prerelease I rewrote

[Mageia-dev] Interesting issue after kernel update (Error 18)

2012-01-07 Thread Michel Catudal
After a reboot the I get an Error 18 message telling me that the Selected Cylinder exceeds the maximum supported by the bios. I then assumed that the new kernel must be crap and tried to use the previous kernel and got the same error message. My system is a bit odd that the bios sees the

Re: [Mageia-dev] references to outside web sites/wiki

2012-01-07 Thread David Walser
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2012/1/5 Buchan Milne bgmi...@zarb.org: -Possibly considering contacting large mirror sites (e.g. mirrors.kernel.org) who currently mirror Mandriva, but not Mageia? Just for the records: mirrors.kernel.org mirror Mageia. But surely there are more large sites to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] references to outside web sites/wiki

2012-01-07 Thread David Walser
Glen Ogilvie wrote: On Wednesday, 4 January 2012 23:56:01 Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 22:36, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21:06, Romain d'Alverny wrote: wiki.mandriva.com may be shut down for good in just a few days What?

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Claire Robinson
On 07/01/12 15:30, Sander Lepik wrote: 07.01.2012 17:09, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: 2012/1/7 Sander Lepiksander.le...@eesti.ee: 07.01.2012 16:24, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: Used the full DVD (32-bit) Mageia 2 Alpha 2 - minimal install with X How? AFAIK this is not one of the default

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Friday, January 06, 2012 12:57:39 PM Sander Lepik wrote: 06.01.2012 21:06, Dale Huckeby kirjutas: Evidently once I've installed package A which requests X, sometimes packages F, L, and T might subsequently get installed which also need X *and presumably would have requested it had it not

[Mageia-dev] Welcoming Kamil among the Mageia packagers

2012-01-07 Thread Oliver Burger
Hi there, let me welcome Kamil Rytarowski - Mageia login name kamil - as a full Mageia packager. In the time I had the pleasure to mentor him, I got to know him as a dedicated and alert person showing me from time to time that I should read the packaging policies from time to time. So Kamil,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package

2012-01-07 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 16.04.2011 16:05, schrieb Christiaan Welvaart: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote: I just downloaded the latest Seamonkey 2.0.12 SRPM from Mandriva cooker and rebuilt it on my Mageia VM and it built flawlessly, I only had to remove all the obsolete %if %mdkversion sections, but all

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
07.01.2012 17:09, Wolfgang Bornath skrev: 2012/1/7 Sander Lepiksander.le...@eesti.ee: 07.01.2012 16:24, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas: Used the full DVD (32-bit) Mageia 2 Alpha 2 - minimal install with X How? AFAIK this is not one of the default options. It is. 1. Select Custom at the DE

Re: [Mageia-dev] Welcoming Kamil among the Mageia packagers

2012-01-07 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
W dniu 07.01.2012 18:24, Oliver Burger pisze: Hi there, let me welcome Kamil Rytarowski - Mageia login name kamil - as a full Mageia packager. In the time I had the pleasure to mentor him, I got to know him as a dedicated and alert person showing me from time to time that I should read the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

2012-01-07 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 07 januari 2012 17:48:36 schreef Thomas Spuhler: [...] It seems to me, auto-orphans gives more headaches than benefits. Why are we clinching to it? because it works for me (and several others)

Re: [Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [193033] Suggests sectools instead of a Requires ( mga # 2808)

2012-01-07 Thread Luc Menut
Le 08/01/2012 02:01, r...@mageia.org a écrit : Revision 193033 Author dmorgan Date 2012-01-08 02:01:07 +0100 (Sun, 08 Jan 2012) Log Message Suggests sectools instead of a Requires ( mga # 2808) Modified Paths * updates/1/msec/current/SPECS/msec.spec

Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha3 release notes

2012-01-07 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all, please do have a look at the alpha3 release notes: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_alpha3 and fix/complete them. By keeping them up to date during the alpha/beta/rc phases we will finally have some