Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass ping

2012-05-30 Thread Claire Robinson
On 30/05/12 06:08, Sander Lepik wrote: 30.05.2012 05:14, blind Pete kirjutas: Would it be possible to have a bug report refer to multiple versions and simultaneously have X marked as OLD, Y marked as FIXED, and Z marked as BLOCKING? With new bugzilla we should be able to choose multiple

[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne Nicolas
Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for Mageia 3 Cheers -- http://mageia.org

[Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Hi I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not enabled. 1) This makes the Mageia experience horrible on some machines (black screen, machines unusable

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas enn...@mageia.org wrote: Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne Nicolas
Le 30/05/2012 11:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 30 May 2012 10:30, Anne Nicolasenn...@mageia.org wrote: Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development

[Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Hi x11-server-1.12 and rebuild drivers are in */update_testing. Please test. The following drivers failed to rebuild: - virtualbox - x11-driver-input-synaptics - x11-driver-video-chips - x11-driver-video-nouveau - x11-driver-video-rendition - x11-driver-video-sisimedia - x11-driver-video-sisusb

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
30.05.2012 11:38, Thierry Vignaud skrev: Hi I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not enabled. So its an installer issue. 1) This makes the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 11:06, Anne Nicolas enn...@mageia.org wrote: Le 30/05/2012 11:00, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 30 May 2012 10:30, Anne Nicolasenn...@mageia.org  wrote: Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 10:38, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not enabled. 1) This makes the Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:08:27AM +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote: eg: we need to package a newer snapshot of nouveau I have a nVidia card, so need nouveau to be able to test. -- Regards, Olav

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
30.05.2012 12:13, Thierry Vignaud skrev: Likewise, fedora package AMD/Intel microcode for their CPUs So if we are supposed to do everything fedora does, we might as well use fedora then... whereas we put them in non-free, which makes microcode_ctl to not work by default See

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugzilla mass ping

2012-05-30 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 08:08:30AM +0300, Sander Lepik wrote: With new bugzilla we should be able to choose multiple versions. And we can use keywords to handle them. For example: tested_mgaX_arch - validate_update_mgaX - update_pushed_mgaX. Normally you'd use flags for this. You can setup

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote: I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not enabled. So its an installer issue. No it's

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thomas Backlund
30.05.2012 12:23, Thierry Vignaud skrev: On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlundt...@mageia.org wrote: I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread AL13N
30.05.2012 11:38, Thierry Vignaud skrev: [..] I think we should offer the choice to: - either be able to choose between working proprietary driver and working free driver - or to have _working_ free driver (that is including the needed firmwares) As pointed out in earlier

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread AL13N
On 30 May 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote: [...] Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think? this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were non-working. i must add that even with my

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 12:21, AL13N al...@rmail.be wrote: Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think? this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were non-working. i must add that even with my nvidia i had

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:30, Anne Nicolas ha scritto: Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread AL13N
On 30 May 2012 12:21, AL13N al...@rmail.be wrote: Offering the choice between working proprietary drivers and NOT working free drivers is somewhat stupid don't you think? this is true, of course, except that iirc not all cards were non-working. i must add that even with my nvidia i had

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread AL13N
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:30, Anne Nicolas ha scritto: Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/5/30 Angelo Naselli anase...@linux.it: mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:30, Anne Nicolas ha scritto: Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 12:43, Anne nicolas ha scritto: No pb to add this topic but I would suggest to plan it for next week. QA is having meeting tomorrow and it's a big condition to manage backports. We do not forget it but postpone it for one week only One week more, sounds good to me

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 10:38, Thierry Vignaud ha scritto: Hi I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. I'm in favour of having working installer either for newbies or for those people that does not read release notes,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Manuel Hiebel
Le 30/05/2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas a écrit : Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for Mageia 3 Cheers What

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/updates_testing x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20120530.1.mga3.nonfree

2012-05-30 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:26 PM, tv buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: Name        : x11-driver-video-nouveau     Relocations: (not relocatable) Version     : 0.0.16                            Vendor: Mageia.Org Release     : 0.20120530.1.mga3.nonfree     Build Date: Wed May 30 13:25:15

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 11:18, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: eg: we need to package a newer snapshot of nouveau I have a nVidia card, so need nouveau to be able to test. I've just uploaded it. However I've mistakely uploaded the following packages in nonfree/updates_testing instead of in

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/5/30 Manuel Hiebel man...@hiebel.eu: Le 30/05/2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas a écrit : Hi there We could say on the road again :). Our meeting will happen as usual at 19hUTC on #mageia-dev. Here are the proposed topics: - Mageia 2 release and post-mortem - Development planning for Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/updates_testing x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20120530.1.mga3.nonfree

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 13:28, Pascal Terjan pter...@gmail.com wrote: Name        : x11-driver-video-nouveau     Relocations: (not relocatable) Version     : 0.0.16                            Vendor: Mageia.Org Release     : 0.20120530.1.mga3.nonfree     Build Date: Wed May 30 13:25:15 2012 nonfree?

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Claire REVILLET
Hi Le 30/05/2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas a écrit : - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for Mageia 3 Could we talk about the Java dependency problem (don't know if it can be in one of this 2 points) ? Claire

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-URPM-3.40-1.1.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 13:38, Iurt the rebuild bot buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: tv tv 3.40-1.1.mga2: + Revision: 223706 - add URPM::traverse_tag_find() for urpme --env Please bump release and puts some changelog next time you rebuild :-( sg such as: rebuild for new perl

Re: [Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2012-05-30 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/5/30 Claire REVILLET gren...@zarb.org: Hi Le 30/05/2012 10:30, Anne Nicolas a écrit : - Development planning for Mageia 3 - Specifications for Mageia 3 Could we talk about the Java dependency problem (don't know if it can be in one of this 2 points) ? We will not detail specs but

Re: [Mageia-dev] don't update perl modules yet

2012-05-30 Thread Jerome Quelin
hi, On 12/05/29 18:48 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: blino will submit it soon using some special tricks - those are needed since there is a bootstrap problem between perl and urpmi. blino did his magic trick, and pascal then uploaded the result. thanks to both of them. as you can see, a lot of

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-Glib-1.251.0-3.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 14:36, jquelin buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: jquelin jquelin 1.251.0-3.mga3: + Revision: 250648 - rebuild for perl 5.16 You can resubmit all of perl-Gtk2, perl-Gnome2 now. Preferably starting with perl-Gtk2, then everything else. There's a couple interdepedancies left but

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 10:38, Thierry Vignaud wrote: So there're two kinds of Linux distro: I beg to differ, there are three kinds, using your way of counting. - those who provides free proprietary drivers - those who only provides free drivers, with the needed firmwares - those who only

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release xfprint-4.6.1-6.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Jani Välimaa
On 30.05.2012 07:51, Charles A Edwards wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2012 06:58:50 +0300 Jani Välimaa jani.vali...@gmail.com wrote: Libxfcegui4 is deprecated, but it's not entirely dead and buried, there's still some plugins which aren't ported to libxfce4ui and needs libxfcegui4. Also, new version

[Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
I see that rpmbuild does n't ask me any more (after upgrading to mga2) for the password when i add the --sign. With the bm it works fine. I don't know if it is dropped the --sign from rpmbuild or is something that needs to have a look. -- Dimitrios Glentadakis

Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [4714] rename internal function to mark themas private

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 29 May 2012 19:29, r...@mageia.org wrote: -sub sqr { $_[0] * $_[0] } -sub round { int($_[0] + 0.5) } -sub group_by2 { +sub _sqr { $_[0] * $_[0] } +sub _round { int($_[0] + 0.5) } +sub _group_by2 { Please add a comment that all these functions came from MDK::Common. So that we think

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 16:28, Dimitrios Glentadakis dgl...@gmail.com wrote: I see that rpmbuild does n't ask me any more (after upgrading to mga2) for the password when i add the --sign. With the bm it works fine. I don't know if it is dropped the --sign from rpmbuild or is something that needs to

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 15:32, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: So there're two kinds of Linux distro: I beg to differ, there are three kinds, using your way of counting. - those who provides free proprietary drivers - those who only provides free drivers, with the needed firmwares - those

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote: If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories etc... I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of course. They do exactly that. They do not have any non-free repo. They have a policy that do not

Re: [Mageia-dev] packages pushed to cauldron updates_testing before release

2012-05-30 Thread nicolas vigier
On Tue, 29 May 2012, David Walser wrote: Thomas Backlund tmb@... writes: 29.05.2012 19:48, David Walser skrev: Packagers, If you pushed a package to updates_testing in Cauldron before Mageia 2 was released, please make sure you re-push it if you want the fix/update included in

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread paiiou
And here is the opinion of a user. I read little English and I'm not sure that I understand the totality of interventions. Anyway, the basic user requests a distribution that works, without needing to get their hands dirty. If this can illuminate your discussion! Païou (Georges)

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:36, Thierry Vignaud wrote: We're speaking about those who actually have (a decent number of) users Then you should say so, and not pretend that the other ones don't exist. -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 16:38, Johnny A. Solbu ha scritto: On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote: If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories etc... I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of course. They do exactly that.

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
Στις 30/05/2012 16:35:29 Thierry Vignaud έγραψε: On 30 May 2012 16:28, Dimitrios Glentadakis dgl...@gmail.com wrote: I see that rpmbuild does n't ask me any more (after upgrading to mga2) for the password when i add the --sign. With the bm it works fine. I don't know if it is dropped the

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:35, Thierry Vignaud wrote: dropped the --sign from rpmbuild Use rpmsign Why is --sign no longer supported? -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 17:25, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: dropped the --sign from rpmbuild Use rpmsign Why is --sign no longer supported? http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-announce/2011-March/27.html * New command line utilities for spec queries (with much enhanced

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
Le 30 mai 2012 18:42, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com a écrit : On 30 May 2012 17:25, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: dropped the --sign from rpmbuild Use rpmsign Why is --sign no longer supported? http://lists.rpm.org/pipermail/rpm-announce/2011-March/27.html

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 30 May 2012 11:08, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: Several of those have been ported to new x11-server-1.12 ABI in git but haven't yet been released (eg: chips, rendition, tseng) I've pushed those eg: we need to package a newer snapshot of nouveau Also I'ven't yet tried

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-URPM-3.40-1.1.mga3

2012-05-30 Thread Olivier Blin
Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com writes: On 30 May 2012 13:38, Iurt the rebuild bot buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: tv tv 3.40-1.1.mga2: + Revision: 223706 - add URPM::traverse_tag_find() for urpme --env Please bump release and puts some changelog next time you rebuild :-(

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] x11-server-1.12

2012-05-30 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 30/05/12 17:53 did gyre and gimble: On 30 May 2012 11:08, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: Several of those have been ported to new x11-server-1.12 ABI in git but haven't yet been released (eg: chips, rendition, tseng) I've pushed those

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-05-30 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mercredi 30 mai 2012 23:43:03, Anne Nicolas a écrit : Hi there Mageia 2 is out, it's now time to work on next version, Mageia 3. We tried to improve the specifications process so that it can be more efficient and less frustrating :). Some conclusions on Mageia 2 specifications: -

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:49:19 +0200 Dimitrios Glentadakis dgl...@gmail.com wrote: - The keyring related operations of importing public keys and verifying package signatures have been split into a new rpmkeys cli utility - Package signing and signature deletion operations have

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread Agron Selimaj
Hi, I can see two objectives here. First objective is to have a high installation success rate. And second objective is to have happy users from both camps; the GNU-purists-camp and the don't-care-camp. I think the GNU-purists-camp is a minority here, but I could be wrong, I never counted them.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free

2012-05-30 Thread lemonzest
On 30/05/12 09:38, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Hi I think we must discuss the following point for next release: currently radeon firmwares are in non-free. However this break havoc quite a lot of install b/c by default non-free is not enabled. 1) This makes the Mageia experience horrible on

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmbuild -ba --sign , does nt work any more

2012-05-30 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
Στις 30/05/2012 20:44:12 Charles A Edwards έγραψε: On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:49:19 +0200 Dimitrios Glentadakis dgl...@gmail.com wrote: - The keyring related operations of importing public keys and verifying package signatures have been split into a new rpmkeys cli utility - Package