Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-16 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le jeudi 15 mars 2012 20:35:08, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Op donderdag 15 maart 2012 18:35:04 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Bertaux Xavier berta...@yahoo.fr wrote: If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be updated. I'm not

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-16 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 16 maart 2012 08:57:45 schreef Samuel Verschelde: [...] It's already the case. If you re-read Ennael's mail about version freeze, it says exactly that about exceptions. Samuel i'm looking at this mail, but don't see the exact same exceptions?

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-16 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 15:11, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: Op vrijdag 16 maart 2012 08:57:45 schreef Samuel Verschelde: [...] It's already the case. If you re-read Ennael's mail about version freeze, it says exactly that about exceptions. Samuel i'm looking at this mail, but

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-16 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 16 maart 2012 16:15:22 schreef Pascal Terjan: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 15:11, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: Op vrijdag 16 maart 2012 08:57:45 schreef Samuel Verschelde: [...] It's already the case. If you re-read Ennael's mail about version freeze, it says exactly

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-15 Thread Anssi Hannula
14.03.2012 09:26, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti: Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 01:16:23 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-15 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all, On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:50:33 +0200 Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote: 14.03.2012 09:26, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti: Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 01:16:23 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-15 Thread Bertaux Xavier
Le 15/03/2012 17:39, Shlomi Fish a écrit : Hi all, On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:50:33 +0200 Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote: 14.03.2012 09:26, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti: Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 01:16:23 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-15 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Bertaux Xavier berta...@yahoo.fr wrote: If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be updated. I'm not about to be okay with that, a version Freeze only accepts updates on bug fixes and security warnings, so RC to Release is OK but not

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-15 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op donderdag 15 maart 2012 18:35:04 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Bertaux Xavier berta...@yahoo.fr wrote: If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be updated. I'm not about to be okay with that, a version Freeze only accepts

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-14 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 01:16:23 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-13 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security fixes. Well I vote to be updated, why ? global

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 12 maart 2012 07:53:38 schreef David W. Hodgins: [...] My understanding was that Magea 1 supported updating from Mandriva 2010.2 + Contrib + PLF-Free. There were several updates submitted to qa a few days ago, that are only available in backports in Mdv 2010.2. [...] IMHO

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread zezinho
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 22:25:32, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. But so far, I think that we are basically and roughly coherent when compared to the

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Monday 12 March 2012 08:31, zezinho wrote: As usually people who does agree says nothing And the few of us who do say we agree, seems to drown in the traffic. :-)= -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread Anssi Hannula
11.03.2012 19:28, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti: However, I do feel we need to be more generally open to freeze pushes. The justification in this case, IMO, was sufficient and in line with the previous interpretations of policy we have expected in the past, but I completely respect misc if he still

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread R James
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote: Line would have to be drawn somewhere, though (otherwise it would become a mess, I guess), and I'm really not sure right now where it should exactly be then This is just my opinion, not based on any previous

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 12 maart 2012 10:56:57 schreef Michael Scherer: Le lundi 12 mars 2012 à 08:29 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : to get back on topic: perhaps it's not unreasonable to allow a timelimit exception, like for instance 3 or 4 days where i forgot it was freeze or didn't make it in time

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 12/03/2012 21:27, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : but we should also try to prevent irritation if it's possible... we're short on contributors and I don't like to decrease motivation... I guess that makes me more lax than others. OK, I want a new version of cowsay. Right now. Otherwise I'm leaving.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 12 maart 2012 22:02:56 schreef Guillaume Rousse: Le 12/03/2012 21:27, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : but we should also try to prevent irritation if it's possible... we're short on contributors and I don't like to decrease motivation... I guess that makes me more lax than others.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread R James
My point is not about preventing temper tantrums. I'm sure we've all dealt with clerks, support reps and airline employees who treat everyone like a number and are sticklers for the rules. Perhaps too, we've all gotten a warning instead of a deserved traffic ticket or had a late-payment charge

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-12 Thread R James
Oops, and I hope you can forgive my replying to self and top-posting. Gmail got me again. :o)

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security fixes. -- Michael Scherer

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Sander Lepik
11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security fixes. Honestly, WTF?! It's a new package. How much harm can it do? I would

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Oliver Burger
2012/3/11 Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee: It's a new package. How much harm can it do? I would understand this rejection if we would have backports enabled. But we don't. Some point release can cause more trouble than this package. This is getting ridiculous. I have to agree with Sander

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Manuel Hiebel
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 14:29 +0200, Sander Lepik a écrit : 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Thomas Backlund
Sander Lepik skrev 11.3.2012 14:29: 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security fixes. Honestly, WTF?! It's a new

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Sander Lepik
11.03.2012 14:42, Manuel Hiebel kirjutas: Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 14:29 +0200, Sander Lepik a écrit : 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 14:47 +0200, Sander Lepik a écrit : 11.03.2012 14:42, Manuel Hiebel kirjutas: Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 14:29 +0200, Sander Lepik a écrit : 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 14:29 +0200, Sander Lepik a écrit : 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas: Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Mar 11, 2012 12:38 PM, Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com wrote: 2012/3/11 Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee: It's a new package. How much harm can it do? I would understand this rejection if we would have backports enabled. But we don't. Some point release can cause more trouble

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Sunday 11 March 2012 13:47, Sander Lepik wrote: 0.6.0 seems to be in mdv2010.2 Yes, and it's a Backport. 0.6.0 was released march 8 2012. :-)= Xonotic wasn't included in the 2010.2 release, as xonotic 0.1 wasn't released untill the day after the 2010.2 release. And according to the

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Sunday 11 March 2012 13:43, Thomas Backlund wrote: if we start going letting things slide we get the debate that package got in, so why not this... I agree with Thomas. it's to late. it really is that simple. Deadline for adding new and upgraded packages was march 7. -- Johnny A. Solbu

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 11 March 2012 13:54, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security fixes. Honestly, WTF?! It's a new package. How much harm can it do? The same as any packages. What did people didn't

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 14:24 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 11 March 2012 13:54, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security fixes. Honestly, WTF?! It's a new package.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 15:36 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 11 March 2012 14:45, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: It's a new package. How much harm can it do? The same as any packages. What did people didn't understand about focus on bugfixes ? Sorry but I'm the one

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 13:21:57, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security fixes. Communication tip for the future : when

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 11.03.2012 17:58, schrieb Samuel Verschelde: Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 13:21:57, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet. That's bugfix or security fixes.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 17:58 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 13:21:57, Michael Scherer a écrit : Le samedi 10 mars 2012 à 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : Hi please let in xonotic-0.6.0 It's just a game that impacts nothing else. Niet.