Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-08 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2012-02-08 13:39, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit : On Wednesday 08 February 2012 18:37, Maurice Batey wrote: By the way, I had a problem reading your HTML posting, as my newsreader does not format HTML. Mine does format html, but I have explicitly disabled it. I'm not alone in doing that. The

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-08 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Wednesday 08 February 2012 18:37, Maurice Batey wrote: > By the way, I had a problem reading your HTML posting, as my newsreader does > not format HTML. Mine does format html, but I have explicitly disabled it. I'm not alone in doing that. >    The odd thing is that your earlier postings were

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-08 Thread Maurice Batey
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:34:41 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: > Exactly that, formatted with PC Dos boot on it. I don't think that > you can buy PC Dos anymore. Many thanks for all the info, Michel, but it seems XOSL is not for me. By the way, I had a problem reading your HTML posting, as my n

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-07 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2012-02-07 06:39, Maurice Batey a écrit : On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:39:24 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: You didn't understand what I said. I know! :-( The xosl install that I have runs off a floppy diskette which has been form

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-07 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:39:24 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: > You didn't understand what I said. I know! :-( > The xosl install that I have runs off a floppy diskette which has been > formatted to PC DOS. You should be able to find dos bootable image on the > net. xosl has a nice graphic instal

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-06 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2012-02-06 13:57, andre999 a écrit : Maurice Batey a écrit : On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:50:27 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: On my son's computer I installed it on the MBR. I couldn't figure out how to do that. It seemed to me that it had to have a FAT32 partition, and that one would need to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-06 Thread andre999
Also the url for extipl is no longer valid. (It hasn't been developed since 2002.) Since extipl uses unallocated sectors on the disk, and not a separate partition, it can't be used on disks with gpt partition tables. (The usually unallocated 62 sectors at the beginning of a disk with an ms-

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-06 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:08:41 +, I wrote: > On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:01:42 +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote: Apologies for double posting. I thought I had lost the first one, so did it all over again... -- /\/\aurice

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-06 Thread andre999
Maurice Batey a écrit : On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:50:27 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: On my son's computer I installed it on the MBR. I couldn't figure out how to do that. It seemed to me that it had to have a FAT32 partition, and that one would need to be running Windows to run the .

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-06 Thread Maurice Batey
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:50:27 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: > On my son's computer I installed it on the MBR. I couldn't figure out how to do that. It seemed to me that it had to have a FAT32 partition, and that one would need to be running Windows to run the .exe file... > You could create a U

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-06 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:01:42 +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote: > Mageia and Ubuntu > don't ask if you want a new MBR, they rebuilt it without any question. > Formely, Mandriva asked where put the boot loader, but few people > understand such a question which make the installation complicated for a > b

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-06 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:01:42 +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote: > Mageia and Ubuntu > don't ask if you want a new MBR, they rebuilt it without any question. > Formely, Mandriva asked where put the boot loader, I haven't tried Ubuntu, but have installed Mageia, PCLinixOS, Mandriva 2010 and 2011, and O

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-06 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le lundi 6 février 2012 03:50:27, Michel Catudal a écrit : > If you have a floppy drive, create a freedos boot disk and put the files > you need and boot on it. If not do the same thing on a USB jump drive. The > beauty with xosl , it is small and works nicely. Being able to put it on a > separate

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-05 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2012-02-05 09:58, Maurice Batey a écrit : On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:04:55 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: I have xosl residing on a small primary partition about 16k, I did look at XOSL before settling with Extipl, but found several things that put me off: (1) It appears to need to occupy

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-05 Thread Maurice Batey
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:04:55 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: > I have xosl residing on a small primary partition about 16k, I did look at XOSL before settling with Extipl, but found several things that put me off: (1) It appears to need to occupy a FAT32 (or similar) partition. (As an extension

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-04 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2012-02-04 15:40, andre999 a écrit : I use gnome2 as well (in preference to kde for the same reasons), but I modify it to have only 1 panel on top. (To give me more screen space.) I put all the static icons under one drawer ("tiroir") icon, and group all instances of the same application t

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-04 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2012-02-04 13:27, Maurice Batey a écrit : On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:04:10 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: The bootloader installation should be entirely separate from the operating system. Michel, I think to avoid confusion, programs such as XOSL (e.g. Extipl, GAG, SBM) are usually referred t

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-04 Thread andre999
Michel Catudal a écrit : Le 2012-02-04 04:32, andre999 a écrit : [...] I have been using xosl for years and it works like a charm. On my computer I needed to install eComStation 2.1(OS/2) and it wants to be on drive A: just like windows. I disconnected the other drives and installed it. After

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-04 Thread Maurice Batey
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:04:10 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote: > The bootloader installation should be entirely separate from the operating > system. Michel, I think to avoid confusion, programs such as XOSL (e.g. Extipl, GAG, SBM) are usually referred to as 'boot managers' (and usually reside in

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-04 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2012-02-04 04:32, andre999 a écrit : Michel Catudal a écrit : Le 03/02/2012 19:05, Pierre Jarillon a écrit : I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu. After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub. The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad. I have no

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-04 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2012-02-04 03:42, zezinho a écrit : Le samedi 4 février 2012 02:27:29, Michel Catudal a écrit : default. One thing that pisses me off on all the Linux distribution, including Mageia is that the fact that the bootloader is on the MBR is sorta hidden and it is not obvious how to switch it to th

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-04 Thread andre999
Michel Catudal a écrit : Le 03/02/2012 19:05, Pierre Jarillon a écrit : I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu. After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub. The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad. I have not found how to restore an access to Ubunt

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-04 Thread zezinho
Le samedi 4 février 2012 02:27:29, Michel Catudal a écrit : > default. One thing that pisses me off on all the Linux distribution, > including Mageia is that the fact that the bootloader is on the MBR is > sorta hidden and it is not obvious how to switch it to the partition. It How to boot if noth

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-03 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 03/02/2012 19:05, Pierre Jarillon a écrit : I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu. After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub. The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad. I have not found how to restore an access to Ubuntu and after an hour, I hav

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-03 Thread Manuel Hiebel
Le samedi 04 février 2012 à 01:05 +0100, Pierre Jarillon a écrit : > I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu. > After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub. > The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad. > > I have not found how to restore an access to Ubu

[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2

2012-02-03 Thread Pierre Jarillon
I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu. After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub. The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad. I have not found how to restore an access to Ubuntu and after an hour, I have reinstalled Ubuntu which install its grub2 all