Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-08 Thread JA Magallón
On 06/08/2012 11:12 PM, zezinho wrote: Em 06-06-2012 08:22, AL13N escreveu: in any case, imho it's too soon for us to drop drakxtools/mganetapplet/if-cfg* (if ever). let's retalk about this for mga4. +1 I don't mean dropping them, just adaptimg them (except ifcfg-*) It looks much easier to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-08 Thread zezinho
Em 06-06-2012 08:22, AL13N escreveu: in any case, imho it's too soon for us to drop drakxtools/mganetapplet/if-cfg* (if ever). let's retalk about this for mga4. +1

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-08 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/12 21:24, Angelo Naselli wrote: > Il 07/06/2012 18:11, Anne Wilson ha scritto: >> I feel guilty in requesting work when I have no coding skills >> myself, however, I am sure that there will be some tasks >> somewhere that you can give me. > I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-07 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Olav, *, On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: >> Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a écrit : >> >Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced >> >network configurations (lacks UI). lac

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-07 Thread Angelo Naselli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 07/06/2012 18:11, Anne Wilson ha scritto: > I feel guilty in requesting work when I have no coding skills > myself, however, I am sure that there will be some tasks somewhere > that you can give me. If you are talking about general help, I think you

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-07 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/12 14:33, Angelo Naselli wrote: >> One thing that has always been annoying to me, in Mandrake, >> Mandriva and now Mageia, is the proliferation of entries in the >> Grub menu by the time you've done a few updates. Fedora get >> around this by

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-07 Thread Angelo Naselli
> One thing that has always been annoying to me, in Mandrake, Mandriva > and now Mageia, is the proliferation of entries in the Grub menu by > the time you've done a few updates. Fedora get around this by having > a line in the yum configuration file that limits it to the last 3 > kernels installe

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-06 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/12 10:02, Anne Nicolas wrote: > Le 30/05/2012 23:43, Anne Nicolas a écrit : >> Here is the process: >> >> - until 15/06: make proposals for Mageia 3 specifications >> (features) following our policy - 16 to 18/06: choose features >> that wil

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 08:26:33PM -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote: > If a non-gui minimall install can not be done, simply because it requires > gnome, then it can't replace drakx-net, in my opinion. Full agreed. My aim is not to push GNOME stuff. For one, any GUI should only use minimal amount of

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread AL13N
Op woensdag 6 juni 2012 01:04:05 schreef JA Magallón: > On 06/05/2012 11:41 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > >> Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a écrit : > >>> Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced > >>

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Marja van Waes
On 06-06-12 02:20, David W. Hodgins wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:02:35 -0400, Anne Nicolas wrote: ping all. Very few proposals for now. Please take some time to fill it, it's important for coming release Is there an index page that makes it easy to see what features have already been subm

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread JA Magallón
On 06/06/2012 02:26 AM, David W. Hodgins wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:41:15 -0400, Olav Vitters wrote: But ideally it would be nice if there was only one way to setup a network.. and for me that means NetworkManager :). But drakxtools was more advanced IIRC, so first NetworkManager needs to g

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:41:15 -0400, Olav Vitters wrote: But ideally it would be nice if there was only one way to setup a network.. and for me that means NetworkManager :). But drakxtools was more advanced IIRC, so first NetworkManager needs to get more advanced, more documentation, etc. If n

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:02:35 -0400, Anne Nicolas wrote: Le 30/05/2012 23:43, Anne Nicolas a écrit : Here is the process: - until 15/06: make proposals for Mageia 3 specifications (features) following our policy - 16 to 18/06: choose features that will be added for official specifications of M

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread JA Magallón
On 06/05/2012 11:41 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a écrit : Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6. How

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a écrit : > >Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced > >network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6. > >However, seems that loads of Mageia user

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a écrit : Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6. However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with NetworkManager, so not sure what to do. Perhaps safer to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread David Walser
Olav Vitters wrote: > This I really want to add: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering > > There is also stuff we can steal from Fedora. Stuff that I found > interesting: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/R

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 05/06/12 16:25 did gyre and gimble: > 05.06.2012 18:10, Colin Guthrie skrev: >> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs >> >> Yup I like that one too. Others disagree, but it's just a default and >> it's easy to disable. Probably worth a feature

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Thomas Backlund
05.06.2012 18:10, Colin Guthrie skrev: > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs > > Yup I like that one too. Others disagree, but it's just a default and > it's easy to disable. Probably worth a feature wiki page. > This one we have had as an opt-in "for ages" in the boot config

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/06/12 15:20 did gyre and gimble: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 02:53:50PM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: >> 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/06/12 14:14 did gyre and gimble: >>> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:02:35AM +0200, Anne Nicolas wrote: ping all. Very few

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 02:53:50PM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: > 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/06/12 14:14 did gyre and gimble: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:02:35AM +0200, Anne Nicolas wrote: > >> ping all. Very few proposals for now. Please take some time to fill > >> it, it's important

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/06/12 14:14 did gyre and gimble: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:02:35AM +0200, Anne Nicolas wrote: >> ping all. Very few proposals for now. Please take some time to fill >> it, it's important for coming release > > Added https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:KillSy

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 11:02:35AM +0200, Anne Nicolas wrote: > ping all. Very few proposals for now. Please take some time to fill > it, it's important for coming release Added https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:KillSysvinit I thought killing sysvinit was already agreed upon, so not sure a featu

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-06-05 Thread Anne Nicolas
Le 30/05/2012 23:43, Anne Nicolas a écrit : Here is the process: - until 15/06: make proposals for Mageia 3 specifications (features) following our policy - 16 to 18/06: choose features that will be added for official specifications of Mageia 3 - publish and communicate on it Mageia features po

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-05-31 Thread Anne nicolas
2012/5/31 Colin Guthrie : > 'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 30/05/12 23:14 did gyre and gimble: >> Maybe this would deserve a blog post so that people who don't follow the >> mageia-dev mailing list have a chance to propose new features for Mageia 3, >> provided they follow the features pol

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-05-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 30/05/12 23:14 did gyre and gimble: > Maybe this would deserve a blog post so that people who don't follow the > mageia-dev mailing list have a chance to propose new features for Mageia 3, > provided they follow the features policy? While that's not a bad

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-05-30 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mercredi 30 mai 2012 23:43:03, Anne Nicolas a écrit : > Hi there > > Mageia 2 is out, it's now time to work on next version, Mageia 3. We > tried to improve the specifications process so that it can be more > efficient and less frustrating :). > > Some conclusions on Mageia 2 specifications: >

[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

2012-05-30 Thread Anne Nicolas
Hi there Mageia 2 is out, it's now time to work on next version, Mageia 3. We tried to improve the specifications process so that it can be more efficient and less frustrating :). Some conclusions on Mageia 2 specifications: - lots of proposals, very few achieved - lots of incomplete proposa